Even though I'm about to be a Trooj alumnus I'm going to chime in and say that the "urban setting" of USC is haught garbage. It's literally next to a skid row under the freeway and south central LA which is fast recovering from gentrification and going through decolonialism. The beach is the only attractive local feature worth value and it's definitely not within campus proximity.
Gonna hate myself for this but the real competition for UW is UCLA. Westwood for campus and Pasadena for the Rose Bowl with its back against the Los Angeles National Forest and mountains. USC ain't close from an LA perspective.
UW just needs to reassert ownership of the Rose Bowl to maintain setting superiority.
Not so fast my friend. Pasadena is the burbs and Rose Bowl is 11 miles from Downtown LA Skidrow.
The Rose Bowl and Husky Stadium, however, are the too most scenic college football venues and it's not really close. Army might be in their place. BYU and @89ute just aren't on par in in spite of the Wasnatch Range.
11 miles from Downtown[/b] skid row. LA has A bunch of skid rows...one of which you can throw a rock and hit from the Coliseum parking lot. You will get stabbed with a needle simply for exiting the wrong way from a game. Csb one of my former friends I went to high-school with who has a trust fund lives in a tent under that bridge doing drugs. We see him sometimes when we go to games(and quickly go the other way).
Seriously, I know this area well and am the board superiority guy. RIP @CirrhosisDawg for challenging me on that shit. I tailgated and had bacon wrapped hot dogs in the parking lot vs. Stanford this year ftr.
You been to Pasadena proper in the last 20 years yella? It's like saying downtown Bellevue is the burbs.
Bot, I'm not saying I'm more LA Metro superiority guy than you here, but I'm a native So Cali-Fag sand thus not a total ignorant 'sum bitch on these topics.
I've been to Downtown Pasadena a lot in the past 20 years for weddings, visiting my little brother, and most recently the 2019 Rose Bowl. Pasadena has 137,000 people which is only like 30,000 more than White Wakanda. It's a suburb (albeit a large one) and not an urban core like UW being 3 miles from Downtown Seattle or GA Tech being in Downtown LA.
Being a 137,000 suburb is kind of meaningless in a 10 million person metro no? The lines are arbitrary.
And measuring distance to "downtown core" is also kinda meaningless in LA where sprawl is the norm and "downtown" isn't even considered the "city center". Distances in SoCal are on a different measuring tape.
As a Cali-fag you should know this.
I'd put it like this,
U-district = Pasadena/Westwood
Seattle metro = LA metro
You can quibble it but it mostly comes down to preference and taste for the respective areas.
The real edge UW has is the waterfront. I hear you can tailgate on a boat. While the mountains are cool tailgating on the lawn at the Rosebowl isn't that speshul in the wide world of college football.
Quibble I will. Yes, LAX is spread the fuck out like no city in the US. But Pasadena is still a ways out from the core of LA. By your logic, we should say that Cal is in San Francisco (same distance basically and much, much closer to Oakland which is a big town).
Disagree on Rose Bowl. The Arroyo Seco and snow capped San Gabriels are pretty unique in college football.
It's fifteen minutes from the Rose Bowl to Union Station. In notoriously terrible LA public transit the A line literally goes from Pasadena city center to Union in ~20. The 110 was literally built to connect the two and is one of if not the oldest freeway in the US(back when it was an actual suburb).
Haven't used the light rail but it used to take me much longer to get to downtown Seattle from the U-district than that.
Westwood is between Beverly Hills/Hollywood and Santa Monica. If you tell me LA downtown is the "core of the city" you are going to have your California credentials revoked. Hate to see it.
I'm all for talking shit on UCLA but you are really pressing on this one.