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Does anybody have a serious, legitimate and chinsightful explanation for why Michigan is just so fucking mediocre? Just a legitimately mediocre team amd program. They have long since worn out their welcome on rep alone, and nobody takes them seriously anymore. Really thought Nutty would go there and do great things. All the things that you need are in place there. But he seems to be a shell of the coach he was, and he has done absolutely nothing there. Urban will absolutely ass throttle him this year in the big game. Michigan has virtually no chance in that one.
 
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Their defense was so fucking good coming into this season. I thought they'd be best in the country. Two elite corners in Long and Lavert Hill, and Hill was the highest graded PFF returning DB in the country. Third DB, Brandon Watson, is a 5th-year senior, with 38 games under his belt coming into this year. Ambry Thomas looked great as a freshman last year. The safeties, Tyree Kinnel and Josh Metellus, were both alright, and Metellus was honorable mention All-B1G.

At linebacker they had a preseason all-American in Devin Bush, and a returning all-B1G player in Khaleke Hudson (who plays the Jabrill Peppers "viper" position). Then there was Josh Ross, Devin Gil, and Drew Singleton fighting for the third spot. Their linebackers looked fucking great.

Then on the line, at SDE and WDE respectively they have Rashan fucking Gary (no explanation needed) and Chase Winovich, who had 8 sacks and 18.5 tackles for loss last season. Then at DT there's Aubrey fucking Solomon and Michael Dwumfour, who kicked ass all spring. Their backup DE's are also excellent.

They legitimately have 2 top tier guys at each defensive group, and they still gave up 9,000 points to Notre Dame. That's on the coach. That defense should be tops in the country. Harbaugh should be in a much hotter seat than he is right now.
 
Their defense was so fucking good coming into this season. I thought they'd be best in the country. Two elite corners in Long and Lavert Hill, and Hill was the highest graded PFF returning DB in the country. Third DB, Brandon Watson, is a 5th-year senior, with 38 games under his belt coming into this year. Ambry Thomas looked great as a freshman last year. The safeties, Tyree Kinnel and Josh Metellus, were both alright, and Metellus was honorable mention All-B1G.

At linebacker they had a preseason all-American in Devin Bush, and a returning all-B1G player in Khaleke Hudson (who plays the Jabrill Peppers "viper" position). Then there was Josh Ross, Devin Gil, and Drew Singleton fighting for the third spot. Their linebackers looked fucking great.

Then on the line, at SDE and WDE respectively they have Rashan fucking Gary (no explanation needed) and Chase Winovich, who had 8 sacks and 18.5 tackles for loss last season. Then at DT there's Aubrey fucking Solomon and Michael Dwumfour, who kicked ass all spring. Their backup DE's are also excellent.

They legitimately have 2 top tier guys at each defensive group, and they still gave up 9,000 points to Notre Dame. That's on the coach. That defense should be tops in the country. Harbaugh should be in a much hotter seat than he is right now.
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Notre Dame might not suck.
 
Their defense was so fucking good coming into this season. I thought they'd be best in the country. Two elite corners in Long and Lavert Hill, and Hill was the highest graded PFF returning DB in the country. Third DB, Brandon Watson, is a 5th-year senior, with 38 games under his belt coming into this year. Ambry Thomas looked great as a freshman last year. The safeties, Tyree Kinnel and Josh Metellus, were both alright, and Metellus was honorable mention All-B1G.

At linebacker they had a preseason all-American in Devin Bush, and a returning all-B1G player in Khaleke Hudson (who plays the Jabrill Peppers "viper" position). Then there was Josh Ross, Devin Gil, and Drew Singleton fighting for the third spot. Their linebackers looked fucking great.

Then on the line, at SDE and WDE respectively they have Rashan fucking Gary (no explanation needed) and Chase Winovich, who had 8 sacks and 18.5 tackles for loss last season. Then at DT there's Aubrey fucking Solomon and Michael Dwumfour, who kicked ass all spring. Their backup DE's are also excellent.

They legitimately have 2 top tier guys at each defensive group, and they still gave up 9,000 points to Notre Dame. That's on the coach. That defense should be tops in the country. Harbaugh should be in a much hotter seat than he is right now.
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Notre Dame might not suck.
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True, despite Brian Kelly and Brian Kelly's best efforts.

I would also point out that the Michigan defense tightened up after giving up TDs on 3 of the first 4 drives against ND. The first two drives were aided by 15 yard personal fouls and the third was twice extended by penalties on failed 3rd downs. There were a few big pass plays allowed there but for the game Notre Dame only averaged 4.4 yards per play. Only 2.8 on the ground.

I know these statistics go against the popular Michigan sucks narrative but on the season Michigan is easily leading the nation at just 3.4 yards per play allowed (UW allowing 4.2) Since going down 21-3 four drives into the season against ND they've allowed just 10 plays over 15 yards in 4.5+ games (6 pass, 4 rush.)
 
Joel Katt had Michigan in the CFP after they beat Nebraska

Like our DAWGS the UM stats work better against the bad teams they play

Pann State and Ohio State will tell the tale. He CAN'T lose to MSU this year
 
They'll be fine Creep. Legacy program with better access to 'croots than Nebraska.

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They'll be fine Creep. Legacy program with better access to 'croots than Nebraska.

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Which is really the kiss of deaf: when your fan base doesn't really care.

That's why the single most important factor in UW's turnaround was the REFUSAL of the base that remembered DJ and Husky Tuff! football to cave into "Yeah, but we're an academis school now" tolerance for shit football.

The fact that Todd Turdner was rejected for trying that shit was what gave Washington hope. There was a Trump-like reaction to the increasingly soft af, "soccer is great, Seattle has more PhDs than you do" crowd at UW that didn't give a shit where the medical school was ranked or that the Husky women's softball team won the title. We want football to win now damn it. W/o that you have no new stadium and you have no Peterman.

If Michigan cares moar about the Ross School of Bidness than winning the big gayme, then they are forever sunk and will never win with any consistency ever again.

Tell me I'm wrong.
 
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Joel Katt had Michigan in the CFP after they beat Nebraska

Like our DAWGS the UM stats work better against the bad teams they play

Pann State and Ohio State will tell the tale. He CAN'T lose to MSU this year
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Dantonio and crew want nothing more than to end Harbaugh's career at UM...I like the Spartans in that one
 
They'll be fine Creep. Legacy program with better access to 'croots than Nebraska.

1200px-Michigan_Stadium_2011.jpg
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Which is really the kiss of deaf: when your fan base doesn't really care.

That's why the single most important factor in UW's turnaround was the REFUSAL of the base that remembered DJ and Husky Tuff! football to cave into "Yeah, but we're an academis school now" tolerance for shit football.

The fact that Todd Turdner was rejected for trying that shit was what gave Washington hope. There was a Trump-like reaction to the increasingly soft af, "soccer is great, Seattle has more PhDs than you do" crowd at UW that didn't give a shit where the medical school was ranked or that the Husky women's softball team won the title. We want football to win now damn it. W/o that you have no new stadium and you have no Peterman.

If Michigan cares moar about the Ross School of Bidness than winning the big gayme, then they are forever sunk and will never win with any consistency ever again.

Tell me I'm wrong.
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As the smartest poaster on our boreds @AUBURNTROJAN would say, Michigan, still has it in terms of MONEY, TRADITION, and LOCATION. Therefore as long as the institution still thinks and cares about football they will be OK in the long run. But as we know, it's better to be lucky than good some tims. The Harbaugh hire is proof the school cares about competing for titles and should have been a slam dunk. Bad luck here and the Urban Meyer factor.

Petersen saved UW football, but we also benefitted from some extremely good fortune in our rapid ascent back to relevance- i.e., Helfrich, Sark, Clay Helton, etc.
 
They'll be fine Creep. Legacy program with better access to 'croots than Nebraska.

1200px-Michigan_Stadium_2011.jpg
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Which is really the kiss of deaf: when your fan base doesn't really care.

That's why the single most important factor in UW's turnaround was the REFUSAL of the base that remembered DJ and Husky Tuff! football to cave into "Yeah, but we're an academis school now" tolerance for shit football.

The fact that Todd Turdner was rejected for trying that shit was what gave Washington hope. There was a Trump-like reaction to the increasingly soft af, "soccer is great, Seattle has more PhDs than you do" crowd at UW that didn't give a shit where the medical school was ranked or that the Husky women's softball team won the title. We want football to win now damn it. W/o that you have no new stadium and you have no Peterman.

If Michigan cares moar about the Ross School of Bidness than winning the big gayme, then they are forever sunk and will never win with any consistency ever again.

Tell me I'm wrong.
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As the smartest poaster on our boreds @AUBURNTROJAN would say, Michigan, still has it in terms of MONEY, TRADITION, and LOCATION. Therefore as long as the institution still thinks and cares about football they will be OK in the long run. But as we know, it's better to be lucky than good some tims. The Harbaugh hire is proof the school cares about competing for titles and should have been a slam dunk. Bad luck here and the Urban Meyer factor.

Petersen saved UW football, but we also benefitted from some extremely good fortune in our rapid ascent back to relevance- i.e., Helfrich, Sark, Clay Helton, etc.
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strong poast, strong poaster.
 
They'll be fine Creep. Legacy program with better access to 'croots than Nebraska.

1200px-Michigan_Stadium_2011.jpg
Click to expand...

Which is really the kiss of deaf: when your fan base doesn't really care.

That's why the single most important factor in UW's turnaround was the REFUSAL of the base that remembered DJ and Husky Tuff! football to cave into "Yeah, but we're an academis school now" tolerance for shit football.

The fact that Todd Turdner was rejected for trying that shit was what gave Washington hope. There was a Trump-like reaction to the increasingly soft af, "soccer is great, Seattle has more PhDs than you do" crowd at UW that didn't give a shit where the medical school was ranked or that the Husky women's softball team won the title. We want football to win now damn it. W/o that you have no new stadium and you have no Peterman.

If Michigan cares moar about the Ross School of Bidness than winning the big gayme, then they are forever sunk and will never win with any consistency ever again.

Tell me I'm wrong.
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Historically speaking, Michigan still stacks up pretty well against tOSU. Until Tressell got there and whooped your Caribbean arse, the Buckeyes were on a 34 year NT drought. If Bo hadn't sucked at winning NT's, Michigan might be closer to being in the Mt Rushmore alternate in waiting spot.
http://www.winsipedia.com/michigan/vs/ohio-state
 
They'll be fine Creep. Legacy program with better access to 'croots than Nebraska.

1200px-Michigan_Stadium_2011.jpg
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Which is really the kiss of deaf: when your fan base doesn't really care.

That's why the single most important factor in UW's turnaround was the REFUSAL of the base that remembered DJ and Husky Tuff! football to cave into "Yeah, but we're an academis school now" tolerance for shit football.

The fact that Todd Turdner was rejected for trying that shit was what gave Washington hope. There was a Trump-like reaction to the increasingly soft af, "soccer is great, Seattle has more PhDs than you do" crowd at UW that didn't give a shit where the medical school was ranked or that the Husky women's softball team won the title. We want football to win now damn it. W/o that you have no new stadium and you have no Peterman.

If Michigan cares moar about the Ross School of Bidness than winning the big gayme, then they are forever sunk and will never win with any consistency ever again.

Tell me I'm wrong.
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As the smartest poaster on our boreds @AUBURNTROJAN would say, Michigan, still has it in terms of MONEY, TRADITION, and LOCATION. Therefore as long as the institution still thinks and cares about football they will be OK in the long run. But as we know, it's better to be lucky than good some tims. The Harbaugh hire is proof the school cares about competing for titles and should have been a slam dunk. Bad luck here and the Urban Meyer factor.

Petersen saved UW football, but we also benefitted from some extremely good fortune in our rapid ascent back to relevance- i.e., Helfrich, Sark, Clay Helton, etc.
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strong poast, strong poaster.
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I wouldn't know. Can't tell anymore if people like your hawt takes.
 
Womp. Christ.

Ohio State, LSU, Bama, USC (historically), Miami, Florida State, most of the SEC don't have money. Texas, ND, Stanford, Michigan and Northwestern have $$. I'm not seeing the importance of that variable.

Location. Many programs are in much better locations nearer to fertile recruiting grounds.

Tradition. That's the point of my poast. Only lasts so long. As evidenced by Michigan's drought.

That's a lot of ifs in your poast. My aunt and my uncle are different people. Nuff said on that.

He didnt' whip anybody. He was gifted a title on a bad call.

Really disappointed in your effert here. I've come to expect moar.
 
Michigan location sucks they need national recruits to have any hope of success. Who even in Michigan would want to go there over Ohio State?
National recruits who care about academics it probably their most hopeful angle, but who would want to go there over Stanford or Notre Dame? Who would want to play for that creepy freak? I look forward to watching that program turn into Cal over the next few decades.
 
Michigan location sucks they need national recruits to have any hope of success. Who even in Michigan would want to go there over Ohio State?
National recruits who care about academics it probably their most hopeful angle, but who would want to go there over Stanford or Notre Dame? Who would want to play for that creepy[/b] freak? I look forward to watching that program turn into Cal over the next few decades.
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If you could show a little more attention to detail in your word choice, I would greatly appreciate it.
 
Womp. Christ.

Ohio State, LSU, Bama, USC (historically), Miami, Florida State, most of the SEC don't have money. Texas, ND, Stanford, Michigan and Northwestern have $$. I'm not seeing the importance of that variable.

Location. Many programs are in much better locations nearer to fertile recruiting grounds.

Tradition. That's the point of my poast. Only lasts so long. As evidenced by Michigan's drought.

That's a lot of ifs in your poast. My aunt and my uncle are different people. Nuff said on that.

He didnt' whip anybody. He was gifted a title on a bad call.

Really disappointed in your effert here. I've come to expect moar.
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Jeeze Loueze, don't get yer panties in a bunch about 2002. Everyone knows if they played that game 20 tims, Miami win 19 of them.

Look, Kreep, I know you're a philosopher king and all and better at academis than me, but sometims I don't know if you understand the MONEY part of this. It's not how much money the chinstitution or the cumulative net worth of the alumni. Rather, it's about how much money can the athletic dept throw at getting the best corches and spending on facilities. The Kewgs have an endowment that is quite a bit larger than the University of Alabama but they are a pour in the world of college sports and Bamma is rich as fuck.

 
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