Lorenzo Romar on 2-16 league record: ‘No way I thought that would happen’

[Tequilla]

The failure is still remarkable. Romar has had two teams with two 1st round picks that he couldn't sniff the tourney with (Ross/wroten, Murray/Chriss).

Other teams miss with a single superstar surrounded by dreck (similar to fultz), but two superstars? And twice?

That's stunning.

It's embarrassing, but in extremely mild defense of Romar, Tony Wroten was (still is) a terrible basketball player. It's too bad too, he could have been great if he gave a shit.

A smart coach would have either not recruited Wroten or would have never allowed him to get away with his BS.

 

[TurdBomber]

His philosophy wasn't dying. He was reliant on Cameron Dollar and Ken Bone for X's and O's. As soon as they left, we lost all discipline and competency.

Stop it with this doogism. Romar went to four out of six of his NCAAs without Bone, including 2 of the three Sweet 16s. And massive lol at the idea Dollar was an X's and O's guy. If he was worth a damn at X's and O's he wouldn't be a complete failure at Seattle U.

It was Roy and IT (plus Nate/Will/Bobby and Brockman/Pondexter/MBA) that elevated those first teams. Not two coaches who have sucked total ass since leaving.

Tre - Fuckin-Money - Simmons, Baby!!!

 

[TurdBomber]

The failure is still remarkable. Romar has had two teams with two 1st round picks that he couldn't sniff the tourney with (Ross/wroten, Murray/Chriss).

Other teams miss with a single superstar surrounded by dreck (similar to fultz), but two superstars? And twice?

That's stunning.

Wroten was a bust, and another one-and-done distraction. Agree on the others.

 

[RoadDawg55]

The failure is still remarkable. Romar has had two teams with two 1st round picks that he couldn't sniff the tourney with (Ross/wroten, Murray/Chriss).

Other teams miss with a single superstar surrounded by dreck (similar to fultz), but two superstars? And twice?

That's stunning.

Wroten was a bust, and another one-and-done distraction. Agree on the others.

Wroten had flaws but he was still pretty good. I know many disagree but he was an All Conference player that had stretches where he was the best player on the team.

Gaddy was the true bust and that team had nobody in the front court. The conference was horrible. And Romar was the coach.

 

[doogville]

The failure is still remarkable. Romar has had two teams with two 1st round picks that he couldn't sniff the tourney with (Ross/wroten, Murray/Chriss).

Other teams miss with a single superstar surrounded by dreck (similar to fultz), but two superstars? And twice?

That's stunning.

Wroten was a bust, and another one-and-done distraction. Agree on the others.

Wroten had flaws but he was still pretty good. I know many disagree but he was an All Conference player that had stretches where he was the best player on the team.

Gaddy was the true bust and that team had nobody in the front court. The conference was horrible. And Romar was the coach.

Yea, wroten was an insane talent. Imagine if he would have been coached up...

 

[Tequilla]

Wroten sucked in large part because he always believed his press clippings and never understood what it took to be successful

 

[TurdBomber]

Wroten sucked in large part because he always believed his press clippings and never understood what it took to be successful

Word.

 

[theknowledge]

Romar also had no idea how to adapt to the new rules on hand checking. When his pressure defense started getting called every time they touched someone the fouls racked up and the starters went to the bench. I saw something where after the rule change in preseason Coach Cal had his players hands tied behind their back when working on defense. No touching, only use your feet. He did that pre year fucking one of the rule change. Romar kept things status quo and eventually gave up on pressure and switched to a zone. Blamed the athleticism of his players. Zero adjustments or teaching, just a clueless mess.

 

[Tequilla]

Romar also had no idea how to adapt to the new rules on hand checking. When his pressure defense started getting called every time they touched someone the fouls racked up and the starters went to the bench. I saw something where after the rule change in preseason Coach Cal had his players hands tied behind their back when working on defense. No touching, only use your feet. He did that pre year fucking one of the rule change. Romar kept things status quo and eventually gave up on pressure and switched to a zone. Blamed the athleticism of his players. Zero adjustments or teaching, just a clueless mess.

There's a drill that I always think back on with regards to defense ... you take a towel, roll it up like you are about to slap someone in the ass/balls with it ... place the towel behind your back and hold with both hands ... now stay in front of the offensive player

Good defense starts with making sure you're in position with your feet first and then using your hands to take advantage of sloppy ball handling or bad shot selection ... all reaching does is pick up fouls and get you out of position.

 

[FremontTroll]

TIL @Tequilla singlehandedly caused the downfall of UW basketball by outcoaching Romar while balling out at the IMA with Elston Turner.

 

[bananasnblondes]

Romar also had no idea how to adapt to the new rules on hand checking. When his pressure defense started getting called every time they touched someone the fouls racked up and the starters went to the bench. I saw something where after the rule change in preseason Coach Cal had his players hands tied behind their back when working on defense. No touching, only use your feet. He did that pre year fucking one of the rule change. Romar kept things status quo and eventually gave up on pressure and switched to a zone. Blamed the athleticism of his players. Zero adjustments or teaching, just a clueless mess.

There's a drill that I always think back on with regards to defense ... you take a towel, roll it up like you are about to slap someone in the ass/balls with it ... place the towel behind your back and hold with both hands ... now stay in front of the offensive player

Good defense starts with making sure you're in position with your feet first and then using your hands to take advantage of sloppy ball handling or bad shot selection ... all reaching does is pick up fouls and get you out of position.

Reminds me of this other drill where you take a towel and hold it over someone's face and have them try to do a sit up. Then you have your buddy stand over the guy and position his bare ass right over the guy's face while he's trying to do the sit up.

I get the feeling this is the type of drill that Romar emphasized at his practices

 

[theknowledge]

Romar also had no idea how to adapt to the new rules on hand checking. When his pressure defense started getting called every time they touched someone the fouls racked up and the starters went to the bench. I saw something where after the rule change in preseason Coach Cal had his players hands tied behind their back when working on defense. No touching, only use your feet. He did that pre year fucking one of the rule change. Romar kept things status quo and eventually gave up on pressure and switched to a zone. Blamed the athleticism of his players. Zero adjustments or teaching, just a clueless mess.

There's a drill that I always think back on with regards to defense ... you take a towel, roll it up like you are about to slap someone in the ass/balls with it ... place the towel behind your back and hold with both hands ... now stay in front of the offensive player

Good defense starts with making sure you're in position with your feet first and then using your hands to take advantage of sloppy ball handling or bad shot selection ... all reaching does is pick up fouls and get you out of position.

Reminds me of this other drill where you take a towel and hold it over someone's face and have them try to do a sit up. Then you have your buddy stand over the guy and position his bare ass right over the guy's face while he's trying to do the sit up.

I get the feeling this is the type of drill that Romar emphasized at his practices

Only when they've been bad.
Like this year, last year, the year before that, and the one before that, and the one before that, and that other year before the last one I mentioned.

 

[backthepack]

His philosophy wasn't dying. He was reliant on Cameron Dollar and Ken Bone for X's and O's. As soon as they left, we lost all discipline and competency.

Stop it with this doogism. Romar went to four out of six of his NCAAs without Bone, including 2 of the three Sweet 16s. And massive lol at the idea Dollar was an X's and O's guy. If he was worth a damn at X's and O's he wouldn't be a complete failure at Seattle U.

It was Roy and IT (plus Nate/Will/Bobby and Brockman/Pondexter/MBA) that elevated those first teams. Not two coaches who have sucked total ass since leaving.

Then explain all the superstar players we've had since then and the corresponding horrible records and no NCAA tourney appearances.

I used to watch the Huskies back in the day, and those were fairly disciplined teams who played tenacious defense. The games I've seen in the last five years have been atrocities. Every year a very poorly coached team with no concept of defense. Your explanation doesn't hold water.

None of the players we've had after BRoy and IT are in the BRoy and IT range ... if BRoy's knees weren't an issue he was a HOF caliber player ... he was THAT good. IT's done way more than I ever thought he was but he always had that defiant I hate losing way more than I like winning gene in him that you need to be a great player.

But even going back to those early teams, they weren't particularly well coached. The above 2 players really made the offense look a lot better than it was from a system standpoint ... which you can get away with when you have those caliber of players pulling the strings. The defensive system was never a strong one against GOOD teams because the over extended defense eventually gets exposed and compromised. It's one of the reasons why I'm bearish on West Virginia in the NCAAs this year because by the time they get to the 2nd weekend and start playing teams that can handle the pressure. But if you go back and watch the 3 that UConn made to put the game into OT ... our defense on the play was SOOOOOOO bad on so many levels ...

Perhaps the biggest issue that the program has had is basically in mindset. The players in the first half of the Romar era played in a way that was consistent with winning basketball. Nate's got plenty of dumbass in him (and I mean that in a good way) ... but he also grew up with a ton of fundamentals and I'll never forget talking to him one day where the discussion of why he shot the ball so high in the air came up and he responded by saying that his daddy told him that he was short so he would need to shoot the ball high in the air to get things done. The time to me where you could start to see the program going backwards in hindsight was when you had a guy like Elston Turner transfer ... Turner was a good but not great player ... but he was a kid that knew a bit about what he was doing and had a father that not only was a former NBA player but NBA assistant. I remember playing with him one day and setting a back pick for him that confused the hell out of him ... we talked about it and I explained what I was doing and it was like a light bulb went off for him because so much of Romar's offense basically just had him stand in a spot and then either catch and shoot or drive from there ... there's a place for that in an offensive system but it's not the basis or foundation for a good to great offense.

If you really want to sum everything up, everything about Romar and his program can best be described as lazy without accountability.

Flagged because IT will be an HOF when it's all said and done. Also, flagged for your gay humble look at me fairy brag

 

[Tequilla]

The jury is still out on IT being a HOFer ... it's not an easy bar to cross

 

[dnc]

His philosophy wasn't dying. He was reliant on Cameron Dollar and Ken Bone for X's and O's. As soon as they left, we lost all discipline and competency.

Stop it with this doogism. Romar went to four out of six of his NCAAs without Bone, including 2 of the three Sweet 16s. And massive lol at the idea Dollar was an X's and O's guy. If he was worth a damn at X's and O's he wouldn't be a complete failure at Seattle U.

It was Roy and IT (plus Nate/Will/Bobby and Brockman/Pondexter/MBA) that elevated those first teams. Not two coaches who have sucked total ass since leaving.

Then explain all the superstar players we've had since then and the corresponding horrible records and no NCAA tourney appearances.

I used to watch the Huskies back in the day, and those were fairly disciplined teams who played tenacious defense. The games I've seen in the last five years have been atrocities. Every year a very poorly coached team with no concept of defense. Your explanation doesn't hold water.

None of the players we've had after BRoy and IT are in the BRoy and IT range ... if BRoy's knees weren't an issue he was a HOF caliber player ... he was THAT good. IT's done way more than I ever thought he was but he always had that defiant I hate losing way more than I like winning gene in him that you need to be a great player.

But even going back to those early teams, they weren't particularly well coached. The above 2 players really made the offense look a lot better than it was from a system standpoint ... which you can get away with when you have those caliber of players pulling the strings. The defensive system was never a strong one against GOOD teams because the over extended defense eventually gets exposed and compromised. It's one of the reasons why I'm bearish on West Virginia in the NCAAs this year because by the time they get to the 2nd weekend and start playing teams that can handle the pressure. But if you go back and watch the 3 that UConn made to put the game into OT ... our defense on the play was SOOOOOOO bad on so many levels ...

Perhaps the biggest issue that the program has had is basically in mindset. The players in the first half of the Romar era played in a way that was consistent with winning basketball. Nate's got plenty of dumbass in him (and I mean that in a good way) ... but he also grew up with a ton of fundamentals and I'll never forget talking to him one day where the discussion of why he shot the ball so high in the air came up and he responded by saying that his daddy told him that he was short so he would need to shoot the ball high in the air to get things done. The time to me where you could start to see the program going backwards in hindsight was when you had a guy like Elston Turner transfer ... Turner was a good but not great player ... but he was a kid that knew a bit about what he was doing and had a father that not only was a former NBA player but NBA assistant. I remember playing with him one day and setting a back pick for him that confused the hell out of him ... we talked about it and I explained what I was doing and it was like a light bulb went off for him because so much of Romar's offense basically just had him stand in a spot and then either catch and shoot or drive from there ... there's a place for that in an offensive system but it's not the basis or foundation for a good to great offense.

If you really want to sum everything up, everything about Romar and his program can best be described as lazy without accountability.

Flagged because IT will be an HOF when it's all said and done. Also, flagged for your gay humble look at me fairy brag

Highly unlikely. He's 28 years old never started an All-Star game, and only ever been to two of them. He's just not going to have the resume unless he wins multiple rings as the lead guy, which doesn't look promising.

 

[backthepack]

His philosophy wasn't dying. He was reliant on Cameron Dollar and Ken Bone for X's and O's. As soon as they left, we lost all discipline and competency.

Stop it with this doogism. Romar went to four out of six of his NCAAs without Bone, including 2 of the three Sweet 16s. And massive lol at the idea Dollar was an X's and O's guy. If he was worth a damn at X's and O's he wouldn't be a complete failure at Seattle U.

It was Roy and IT (plus Nate/Will/Bobby and Brockman/Pondexter/MBA) that elevated those first teams. Not two coaches who have sucked total ass since leaving.

Then explain all the superstar players we've had since then and the corresponding horrible records and no NCAA tourney appearances.

I used to watch the Huskies back in the day, and those were fairly disciplined teams who played tenacious defense. The games I've seen in the last five years have been atrocities. Every year a very poorly coached team with no concept of defense. Your explanation doesn't hold water.

None of the players we've had after BRoy and IT are in the BRoy and IT range ... if BRoy's knees weren't an issue he was a HOF caliber player ... he was THAT good. IT's done way more than I ever thought he was but he always had that defiant I hate losing way more than I like winning gene in him that you need to be a great player.

But even going back to those early teams, they weren't particularly well coached. The above 2 players really made the offense look a lot better than it was from a system standpoint ... which you can get away with when you have those caliber of players pulling the strings. The defensive system was never a strong one against GOOD teams because the over extended defense eventually gets exposed and compromised. It's one of the reasons why I'm bearish on West Virginia in the NCAAs this year because by the time they get to the 2nd weekend and start playing teams that can handle the pressure. But if you go back and watch the 3 that UConn made to put the game into OT ... our defense on the play was SOOOOOOO bad on so many levels ...

Perhaps the biggest issue that the program has had is basically in mindset. The players in the first half of the Romar era played in a way that was consistent with winning basketball. Nate's got plenty of dumbass in him (and I mean that in a good way) ... but he also grew up with a ton of fundamentals and I'll never forget talking to him one day where the discussion of why he shot the ball so high in the air came up and he responded by saying that his daddy told him that he was short so he would need to shoot the ball high in the air to get things done. The time to me where you could start to see the program going backwards in hindsight was when you had a guy like Elston Turner transfer ... Turner was a good but not great player ... but he was a kid that knew a bit about what he was doing and had a father that not only was a former NBA player but NBA assistant. I remember playing with him one day and setting a back pick for him that confused the hell out of him ... we talked about it and I explained what I was doing and it was like a light bulb went off for him because so much of Romar's offense basically just had him stand in a spot and then either catch and shoot or drive from there ... there's a place for that in an offensive system but it's not the basis or foundation for a good to great offense.

If you really want to sum everything up, everything about Romar and his program can best be described as lazy without accountability.

Flagged because IT will be an HOF when it's all said and done. Also, flagged for your gay humble look at me fairy brag

Highly unlikely. He's 28 years old never started an All-Star game, and only ever been to two of them. He's just not going to have the resume unless he wins multiple rings as the lead guy, which doesn't look promising.

5"9 guy who likely average 30+ for the next 4-5 years? Hmm... lol the Basketball HOF is a lot less exclusive than the other HOFs

 

[dnc]

His philosophy wasn't dying. He was reliant on Cameron Dollar and Ken Bone for X's and O's. As soon as they left, we lost all discipline and competency.

Stop it with this doogism. Romar went to four out of six of his NCAAs without Bone, including 2 of the three Sweet 16s. And massive lol at the idea Dollar was an X's and O's guy. If he was worth a damn at X's and O's he wouldn't be a complete failure at Seattle U.

It was Roy and IT (plus Nate/Will/Bobby and Brockman/Pondexter/MBA) that elevated those first teams. Not two coaches who have sucked total ass since leaving.

Then explain all the superstar players we've had since then and the corresponding horrible records and no NCAA tourney appearances.

I used to watch the Huskies back in the day, and those were fairly disciplined teams who played tenacious defense. The games I've seen in the last five years have been atrocities. Every year a very poorly coached team with no concept of defense. Your explanation doesn't hold water.

None of the players we've had after BRoy and IT are in the BRoy and IT range ... if BRoy's knees weren't an issue he was a HOF caliber player ... he was THAT good. IT's done way more than I ever thought he was but he always had that defiant I hate losing way more than I like winning gene in him that you need to be a great player.

But even going back to those early teams, they weren't particularly well coached. The above 2 players really made the offense look a lot better than it was from a system standpoint ... which you can get away with when you have those caliber of players pulling the strings. The defensive system was never a strong one against GOOD teams because the over extended defense eventually gets exposed and compromised. It's one of the reasons why I'm bearish on West Virginia in the NCAAs this year because by the time they get to the 2nd weekend and start playing teams that can handle the pressure. But if you go back and watch the 3 that UConn made to put the game into OT ... our defense on the play was SOOOOOOO bad on so many levels ...

Perhaps the biggest issue that the program has had is basically in mindset. The players in the first half of the Romar era played in a way that was consistent with winning basketball. Nate's got plenty of dumbass in him (and I mean that in a good way) ... but he also grew up with a ton of fundamentals and I'll never forget talking to him one day where the discussion of why he shot the ball so high in the air came up and he responded by saying that his daddy told him that he was short so he would need to shoot the ball high in the air to get things done. The time to me where you could start to see the program going backwards in hindsight was when you had a guy like Elston Turner transfer ... Turner was a good but not great player ... but he was a kid that knew a bit about what he was doing and had a father that not only was a former NBA player but NBA assistant. I remember playing with him one day and setting a back pick for him that confused the hell out of him ... we talked about it and I explained what I was doing and it was like a light bulb went off for him because so much of Romar's offense basically just had him stand in a spot and then either catch and shoot or drive from there ... there's a place for that in an offensive system but it's not the basis or foundation for a good to great offense.

If you really want to sum everything up, everything about Romar and his program can best be described as lazy without accountability.

Flagged because IT will be an HOF when it's all said and done. Also, flagged for your gay humble look at me fairy brag

Highly unlikely. He's 28 years old never started an All-Star game, and only ever been to two of them. He's just not going to have the resume unless he wins multiple rings as the lead guy, which doesn't look promising.

5"9 guy who likely average 30+ for the next 4-5 years? Hmm... lol the Basketball HOF is a lot less exclusive than the other HOFs

Actually it's a lot more exclusive when it comes to actual professional players. The basketball HOF is full of college coaches. It's harder for an NBA player to reach the HOF than MLB or NFL.

And IT will not average 30+ for the next 5 years, holy shit get your doog under control man.

 

[backthepack]

His philosophy wasn't dying. He was reliant on Cameron Dollar and Ken Bone for X's and O's. As soon as they left, we lost all discipline and competency.

Stop it with this doogism. Romar went to four out of six of his NCAAs without Bone, including 2 of the three Sweet 16s. And massive lol at the idea Dollar was an X's and O's guy. If he was worth a damn at X's and O's he wouldn't be a complete failure at Seattle U.

It was Roy and IT (plus Nate/Will/Bobby and Brockman/Pondexter/MBA) that elevated those first teams. Not two coaches who have sucked total ass since leaving.

Then explain all the superstar players we've had since then and the corresponding horrible records and no NCAA tourney appearances.

I used to watch the Huskies back in the day, and those were fairly disciplined teams who played tenacious defense. The games I've seen in the last five years have been atrocities. Every year a very poorly coached team with no concept of defense. Your explanation doesn't hold water.

None of the players we've had after BRoy and IT are in the BRoy and IT range ... if BRoy's knees weren't an issue he was a HOF caliber player ... he was THAT good. IT's done way more than I ever thought he was but he always had that defiant I hate losing way more than I like winning gene in him that you need to be a great player.

But even going back to those early teams, they weren't particularly well coached. The above 2 players really made the offense look a lot better than it was from a system standpoint ... which you can get away with when you have those caliber of players pulling the strings. The defensive system was never a strong one against GOOD teams because the over extended defense eventually gets exposed and compromised. It's one of the reasons why I'm bearish on West Virginia in the NCAAs this year because by the time they get to the 2nd weekend and start playing teams that can handle the pressure. But if you go back and watch the 3 that UConn made to put the game into OT ... our defense on the play was SOOOOOOO bad on so many levels ...

Perhaps the biggest issue that the program has had is basically in mindset. The players in the first half of the Romar era played in a way that was consistent with winning basketball. Nate's got plenty of dumbass in him (and I mean that in a good way) ... but he also grew up with a ton of fundamentals and I'll never forget talking to him one day where the discussion of why he shot the ball so high in the air came up and he responded by saying that his daddy told him that he was short so he would need to shoot the ball high in the air to get things done. The time to me where you could start to see the program going backwards in hindsight was when you had a guy like Elston Turner transfer ... Turner was a good but not great player ... but he was a kid that knew a bit about what he was doing and had a father that not only was a former NBA player but NBA assistant. I remember playing with him one day and setting a back pick for him that confused the hell out of him ... we talked about it and I explained what I was doing and it was like a light bulb went off for him because so much of Romar's offense basically just had him stand in a spot and then either catch and shoot or drive from there ... there's a place for that in an offensive system but it's not the basis or foundation for a good to great offense.

If you really want to sum everything up, everything about Romar and his program can best be described as lazy without accountability.

Flagged because IT will be an HOF when it's all said and done. Also, flagged for your gay humble look at me fairy brag

Highly unlikely. He's 28 years old never started an All-Star game, and only ever been to two of them. He's just not going to have the resume unless he wins multiple rings as the lead guy, which doesn't look promising.

5"9 guy who likely average 30+ for the next 4-5 years? Hmm... lol the Basketball HOF is a lot less exclusive than the other HOFs

Actually it's a lot more exclusive when it comes to actual professional players. The basketball HOF is full of college coaches. It's harder for an NBA player to reach the HOF than MLB or NFL.

And IT will not average 30+ for the next 5 years, holy shit get your doog under control man.

It's hard to supress a raging doog boner

 

[Tequilla]

His philosophy wasn't dying. He was reliant on Cameron Dollar and Ken Bone for X's and O's. As soon as they left, we lost all discipline and competency.

Stop it with this doogism. Romar went to four out of six of his NCAAs without Bone, including 2 of the three Sweet 16s. And massive lol at the idea Dollar was an X's and O's guy. If he was worth a damn at X's and O's he wouldn't be a complete failure at Seattle U.

It was Roy and IT (plus Nate/Will/Bobby and Brockman/Pondexter/MBA) that elevated those first teams. Not two coaches who have sucked total ass since leaving.

Then explain all the superstar players we've had since then and the corresponding horrible records and no NCAA tourney appearances.

I used to watch the Huskies back in the day, and those were fairly disciplined teams who played tenacious defense. The games I've seen in the last five years have been atrocities. Every year a very poorly coached team with no concept of defense. Your explanation doesn't hold water.

None of the players we've had after BRoy and IT are in the BRoy and IT range ... if BRoy's knees weren't an issue he was a HOF caliber player ... he was THAT good. IT's done way more than I ever thought he was but he always had that defiant I hate losing way more than I like winning gene in him that you need to be a great player.

But even going back to those early teams, they weren't particularly well coached. The above 2 players really made the offense look a lot better than it was from a system standpoint ... which you can get away with when you have those caliber of players pulling the strings. The defensive system was never a strong one against GOOD teams because the over extended defense eventually gets exposed and compromised. It's one of the reasons why I'm bearish on West Virginia in the NCAAs this year because by the time they get to the 2nd weekend and start playing teams that can handle the pressure. But if you go back and watch the 3 that UConn made to put the game into OT ... our defense on the play was SOOOOOOO bad on so many levels ...

Perhaps the biggest issue that the program has had is basically in mindset. The players in the first half of the Romar era played in a way that was consistent with winning basketball. Nate's got plenty of dumbass in him (and I mean that in a good way) ... but he also grew up with a ton of fundamentals and I'll never forget talking to him one day where the discussion of why he shot the ball so high in the air came up and he responded by saying that his daddy told him that he was short so he would need to shoot the ball high in the air to get things done. The time to me where you could start to see the program going backwards in hindsight was when you had a guy like Elston Turner transfer ... Turner was a good but not great player ... but he was a kid that knew a bit about what he was doing and had a father that not only was a former NBA player but NBA assistant. I remember playing with him one day and setting a back pick for him that confused the hell out of him ... we talked about it and I explained what I was doing and it was like a light bulb went off for him because so much of Romar's offense basically just had him stand in a spot and then either catch and shoot or drive from there ... there's a place for that in an offensive system but it's not the basis or foundation for a good to great offense.

If you really want to sum everything up, everything about Romar and his program can best be described as lazy without accountability.

Flagged because IT will be an HOF when it's all said and done. Also, flagged for your gay humble look at me fairy brag

Highly unlikely. He's 28 years old never started an All-Star game, and only ever been to two of them. He's just not going to have the resume unless he wins multiple rings as the lead guy, which doesn't look promising.

5"9 guy who likely average 30+ for the next 4-5 years? Hmm... lol the Basketball HOF is a lot less exclusive than the other HOFs

He's not averaging 30+ for the next 4-5 years ... get the fuck out of here on that

 

[backthepack]

His philosophy wasn't dying. He was reliant on Cameron Dollar and Ken Bone for X's and O's. As soon as they left, we lost all discipline and competency.

Stop it with this doogism. Romar went to four out of six of his NCAAs without Bone, including 2 of the three Sweet 16s. And massive lol at the idea Dollar was an X's and O's guy. If he was worth a damn at X's and O's he wouldn't be a complete failure at Seattle U.

It was Roy and IT (plus Nate/Will/Bobby and Brockman/Pondexter/MBA) that elevated those first teams. Not two coaches who have sucked total ass since leaving.

Then explain all the superstar players we've had since then and the corresponding horrible records and no NCAA tourney appearances.

I used to watch the Huskies back in the day, and those were fairly disciplined teams who played tenacious defense. The games I've seen in the last five years have been atrocities. Every year a very poorly coached team with no concept of defense. Your explanation doesn't hold water.

None of the players we've had after BRoy and IT are in the BRoy and IT range ... if BRoy's knees weren't an issue he was a HOF caliber player ... he was THAT good. IT's done way more than I ever thought he was but he always had that defiant I hate losing way more than I like winning gene in him that you need to be a great player.

But even going back to those early teams, they weren't particularly well coached. The above 2 players really made the offense look a lot better than it was from a system standpoint ... which you can get away with when you have those caliber of players pulling the strings. The defensive system was never a strong one against GOOD teams because the over extended defense eventually gets exposed and compromised. It's one of the reasons why I'm bearish on West Virginia in the NCAAs this year because by the time they get to the 2nd weekend and start playing teams that can handle the pressure. But if you go back and watch the 3 that UConn made to put the game into OT ... our defense on the play was SOOOOOOO bad on so many levels ...

Perhaps the biggest issue that the program has had is basically in mindset. The players in the first half of the Romar era played in a way that was consistent with winning basketball. Nate's got plenty of dumbass in him (and I mean that in a good way) ... but he also grew up with a ton of fundamentals and I'll never forget talking to him one day where the discussion of why he shot the ball so high in the air came up and he responded by saying that his daddy told him that he was short so he would need to shoot the ball high in the air to get things done. The time to me where you could start to see the program going backwards in hindsight was when you had a guy like Elston Turner transfer ... Turner was a good but not great player ... but he was a kid that knew a bit about what he was doing and had a father that not only was a former NBA player but NBA assistant. I remember playing with him one day and setting a back pick for him that confused the hell out of him ... we talked about it and I explained what I was doing and it was like a light bulb went off for him because so much of Romar's offense basically just had him stand in a spot and then either catch and shoot or drive from there ... there's a place for that in an offensive system but it's not the basis or foundation for a good to great offense.

If you really want to sum everything up, everything about Romar and his program can best be described as lazy without accountability.

Flagged because IT will be an HOF when it's all said and done. Also, flagged for your gay humble look at me fairy brag

Highly unlikely. He's 28 years old never started an All-Star game, and only ever been to two of them. He's just not going to have the resume unless he wins multiple rings as the lead guy, which doesn't look promising.

5"9 guy who likely average 30+ for the next 4-5 years? Hmm... lol the Basketball HOF is a lot less exclusive than the other HOFs

He's not averaging 30+ for the next 4-5 years ... get the fuck out of here on that

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