Looks like it's not his achilles after all

[RoadDawg55]

It seems like people *really* care about someone with 23 career tackles and 7 sacks.

Achilles guy: 11 games, 23 tackles, 7 TFL, 7 sacks

Andrew Faoliu: 12 games, 28 tackles, 4 TFL, 3 sacks

Considering all 7 of those sacks came in his last 4 games, along with 3 strip sacks (and a fourth called back to a BS penalty), yes.

Context matters.

Jeez you guys can’t even have fun anymore. I’d hate to see what it would be like if he drowned.

I think the poont is being missed. I believe ZTF is a great player. I don’t think he’s an All-American based off three games games, two of which came against shit teams. If it was his freshman year? Hell yeah. But he was in his third year in the program and has similar numbers to a guy who who got shooed off to Boise State.

Extrapolating numbers from three abortion season games and comparing him to Terrell Suggs is fucking retarded.

Butt see you weren't trying to have fun or you wouldn't have doubled down on the shit take.

Sorry to hear about ZTF. All our hope that the injury was not serious didn’t seem to help.

There wasn’t going to be doubling down until I saw a comparison of him and Suggs. That’s ridoogulous, be realistic. Until there’s a larger sample size he’s nothing more than a dude who strung together a few really great games.

Nobody here compared him to Suggs.

Agreed. It was a state comparison just to make the point that ZTF's stat is notable. Suggs is a once in 25 years player. They literally don't make people that big and strong and fast and nimble very often.

Suggs is surprising very slow. He’s an example of 49 times being overrated. ZTF is probably bigger, faster, and stronger.

That said, Suggs is a hall of famer so yeah, the comparison is dumb. I don’t think anyone did compare them and just hoped ZTF recovered as quickly as Suggs did.

 

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

It seems like people *really* care about someone with 23 career tackles and 7 sacks.

Achilles guy: 11 games, 23 tackles, 7 TFL, 7 sacks

Andrew Faoliu: 12 games, 28 tackles, 4 TFL, 3 sacks

Considering all 7 of those sacks came in his last 4 games, along with 3 strip sacks (and a fourth called back to a BS penalty), yes.

Context matters.

Jeez you guys can’t even have fun anymore. I’d hate to see what it would be like if he drowned.

I think the poont is being missed. I believe ZTF is a great player. I don’t think he’s an All-American based off three games games, two of which came against shit teams. If it was his freshman year? Hell yeah. But he was in his third year in the program and has similar numbers to a guy who who got shooed off to Boise State.

Extrapolating numbers from three abortion season games and comparing him to Terrell Suggs is fucking retarded.

Butt see you weren't trying to have fun or you wouldn't have doubled down on the shit take.

Sorry to hear about ZTF. All our hope that the injury was not serious didn’t seem to help.

There wasn’t going to be doubling down until I saw a comparison of him and Suggs. That’s ridoogulous, be realistic. Until there’s a larger sample size he’s nothing more than a dude who strung together a few really great games.

The only Suggs comparison I saw was based on Suggs possibly having the same type of injury and coming back from it with very little drop off.

 

[dnc]

It seems like people *really* care about someone with 23 career tackles and 7 sacks.

Achilles guy: 11 games, 23 tackles, 7 TFL, 7 sacks

Andrew Faoliu: 12 games, 28 tackles, 4 TFL, 3 sacks

Considering all 7 of those sacks came in his last 4 games, along with 3 strip sacks (and a fourth called back to a BS penalty), yes.

Context matters.

Jeez you guys can’t even have fun anymore. I’d hate to see what it would be like if he drowned.

I think the poont is being missed. I believe ZTF is a great player. I don’t think he’s an All-American based off three games games, two of which came against shit teams. If it was his freshman year? Hell yeah. But he was in his third year in the program and has similar numbers to a guy who who got shooed off to Boise State.

Extrapolating numbers from three abortion season games and comparing him to Terrell Suggs is fucking retarded.

Butt see you weren't trying to have fun or you wouldn't have doubled down on the shit take.

Sorry to hear about ZTF. All our hope that the injury was not serious didn’t seem to help.

There wasn’t going to be doubling down until I saw a comparison of him and Suggs. That’s ridoogulous, be realistic. Until there’s a larger sample size he’s nothing more than a dude who strung together a few really great games.

A dude who strung together a few really great games is likely to be a really good player.

We agree he's not Suggs. No one directly compared him to Suggs, someone tweeted a stat where 2020 ZTF happens to be above everyone, including Suggs. Obviously we all know the sample is too small to make that kind of conclusion. But it's not too small to conclude he's really good and a significant loss.

 

[BleachedAnusDawg]

It seems like people *really* care about someone with 23 career tackles and 7 sacks.

Achilles guy: 11 games, 23 tackles, 7 TFL, 7 sacks

Andrew Faoliu: 12 games, 28 tackles, 4 TFL, 3 sacks

Considering all 7 of those sacks came in his last 4 games, along with 3 strip sacks (and a fourth called back to a BS penalty), yes.

Context matters.

Jeez you guys can’t even have fun anymore. I’d hate to see what it would be like if he drowned.

I think the poont is being missed. I believe ZTF is a great player. I don’t think he’s an All-American based off three games games, two of which came against shit teams. If it was his freshman year? Hell yeah. But he was in his third year in the program and has similar numbers to a guy who who got shooed off to Boise State.

Extrapolating numbers from three abortion season games and comparing him to Terrell Suggs is fucking retarded.

Butt see you weren't trying to have fun or you wouldn't have doubled down on the shit take.

Sorry to hear about ZTF. All our hope that the injury was not serious didn’t seem to help.

There wasn’t going to be doubling down until I saw a comparison of him and Suggs. That’s ridoogulous, be realistic. Until there’s a larger sample size he’s nothing more than a dude who strung together a few really great games.

The only Suggs comparison I saw was based on Suggs possibly having the same type of injury and coming back from it with very little drop off.

Yes, that was my point and the reason I brought up Suggs is because he's the best case scenario for ZTF continuing his career at a high level after he recovers. Achilles is the worst case scenario for him and few overcome it to be top-tier players again.

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

It seems like people *really* care about someone with 23 career tackles and 7 sacks.

Achilles guy: 11 games, 23 tackles, 7 TFL, 7 sacks

Andrew Faoliu: 12 games, 28 tackles, 4 TFL, 3 sacks

Considering all 7 of those sacks came in his last 4 games, along with 3 strip sacks (and a fourth called back to a BS penalty), yes.

Context matters.

Jeez you guys can’t even have fun anymore. I’d hate to see what it would be like if he drowned.

I think the poont is being missed. I believe ZTF is a great player. I don’t think he’s an All-American based off three games games, two of which came against shit teams. If it was his freshman year? Hell yeah. But he was in his third year in the program and has similar numbers to a guy who who got shooed off to Boise State.

Extrapolating numbers from three abortion season games and comparing him to Terrell Suggs is fucking retarded.

Butt see you weren't trying to have fun or you wouldn't have doubled down on the shit take.

Sorry to hear about ZTF. All our hope that the injury was not serious didn’t seem to help.

There wasn’t going to be doubling down until I saw a comparison of him and Suggs. That’s ridoogulous, be realistic. Until there’s a larger sample size he’s nothing more than a dude who strung together a few really great games.

The only Suggs comparison I saw was based on Suggs possibly having the same type of injury and coming back from it with very little drop off.

Kikaha comes to mind. Unfortunately it caught up to him after a few years starting in da league

 

[FremontTroll]

It seems like people *really* care about someone with 23 career tackles and 7 sacks.

Achilles guy: 11 games, 23 tackles, 7 TFL, 7 sacks

Andrew Faoliu: 12 games, 28 tackles, 4 TFL, 3 sacks

Considering all 7 of those sacks came in his last 4 games, along with 3 strip sacks (and a fourth called back to a BS penalty), yes.

Context matters.

Jeez you guys can’t even have fun anymore. I’d hate to see what it would be like if he drowned.

I think the poont is being missed. I believe ZTF is a great player. I don’t think he’s an All-American based off three games games, two of which came against shit teams. If it was his freshman year? Hell yeah. But he was in his third year in the program and has similar numbers to a guy who who got shooed off to Boise State.

Extrapolating numbers from three abortion season games and comparing him to Terrell Suggs is fucking retarded.

Butt see you weren't trying to have fun or you wouldn't have doubled down on the shit take.

Sorry to hear about ZTF. All our hope that the injury was not serious didn’t seem to help.

There wasn’t going to be doubling down until I saw a comparison of him and Suggs. That’s ridoogulous, be realistic. Until there’s a larger sample size he’s nothing more than a dude who strung together a few really great games.

The only Suggs comparison I saw was based on Suggs possibly having the same type of injury and coming back from it with very little drop off.

Kikaha comes to mind. Unfortunately it caught up to him after a few years starting in da league

Wasn’t it always ACLs for Kikaha?

 

[RatherBeBrewing]

It seems like people *really* care about someone with 23 career tackles and 7 sacks.

Achilles guy: 11 games, 23 tackles, 7 TFL, 7 sacks

Andrew Faoliu: 12 games, 28 tackles, 4 TFL, 3 sacks

Considering all 7 of those sacks came in his last 4 games, along with 3 strip sacks (and a fourth called back to a BS penalty), yes.

Context matters.

Jeez you guys can’t even have fun anymore. I’d hate to see what it would be like if he drowned.

I think the poont is being missed. I believe ZTF is a great player. I don’t think he’s an All-American based off three games games, two of which came against shit teams. If it was his freshman year? Hell yeah. But he was in his third year in the program and has similar numbers to a guy who who got shooed off to Boise State.

Extrapolating numbers from three abortion season games and comparing him to Terrell Suggs is fucking retarded.

Butt see you weren't trying to have fun or you wouldn't have doubled down on the shit take.

Sorry to hear about ZTF. All our hope that the injury was not serious didn’t seem to help.

There wasn’t going to be doubling down until I saw a comparison of him and Suggs. That’s ridoogulous, be realistic. Until there’s a larger sample size he’s nothing more than a dude who strung together a few really great games.

Nobody here compared him to Suggs.

You’ll have to forgive this simpleton, I see a reply that shows ZTF statistics adjacent to statistics for Suggs and it makes me think it’s a comparison of their production. Crazy conclusion to come to, I know.

 

[RatherBeBrewing]

It seems like people *really* care about someone with 23 career tackles and 7 sacks.

Achilles guy: 11 games, 23 tackles, 7 TFL, 7 sacks

Andrew Faoliu: 12 games, 28 tackles, 4 TFL, 3 sacks

7 sacks in four conference games is a big deal

No one is saying it’s not a big deal. It isn’t otherworldly. Just off the top of my head I can think of Nick Reed doing it, and getting a bunch more tackles in the process.

 

[FremontTroll]

It seems like people *really* care about someone with 23 career tackles and 7 sacks.

Achilles guy: 11 games, 23 tackles, 7 TFL, 7 sacks

Andrew Faoliu: 12 games, 28 tackles, 4 TFL, 3 sacks

Considering all 7 of those sacks came in his last 4 games, along with 3 strip sacks (and a fourth called back to a BS penalty), yes.

Context matters.

Jeez you guys can’t even have fun anymore. I’d hate to see what it would be like if he drowned.

I think the poont is being missed. I believe ZTF is a great player. I don’t think he’s an All-American based off three games games, two of which came against shit teams. If it was his freshman year? Hell yeah. But he was in his third year in the program and has similar numbers to a guy who who got shooed off to Boise State.

Extrapolating numbers from three abortion season games and comparing him to Terrell Suggs is fucking retarded.

Butt see you weren't trying to have fun or you wouldn't have doubled down on the shit take.

Sorry to hear about ZTF. All our hope that the injury was not serious didn’t seem to help.

There wasn’t going to be doubling down until I saw a comparison of him and Suggs. That’s ridoogulous, be realistic. Until there’s a larger sample size he’s nothing more than a dude who strung together a few really great games.

Nobody here compared him to Suggs.

You’ll have to forgive this simpleton, I see a reply that shows ZTF statistics adjacent to statistics for Suggs and it makes me think it’s a comparison of their production. Crazy conclusion to come to, I know.

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I don’t think Jason Starrett posts here maybe find out if the Athletic has a message board.

 

[thechatch]

Why are we arguing about this again?

He’s gone so it doesn’t matter

 

[dnc]

It seems like people *really* care about someone with 23 career tackles and 7 sacks.

Achilles guy: 11 games, 23 tackles, 7 TFL, 7 sacks

Andrew Faoliu: 12 games, 28 tackles, 4 TFL, 3 sacks

7 sacks in four conference games is a big deal

No one is saying it’s not a big deal. It isn’t otherworldly. Just off the top of my head I can think of Nick Reed doing it, and getting a bunch more tackles in the process.

In conference games 3-6 not 1-4.

As a junior after starting 10 games as a sophomore

With zero forced fumbles (ZTF had three).

Nick Reed is also fourth all time in sacks in the conference and a two time first team All American. Hell ZTF forced more fumbles in his first four starts than a two time All American did his entire career.

You really proved ZTF is nothing special with that comp.

 

[creepycoug]

This thread is twash. Someone should notify Stalin and reprimand the OP.