Lanning

[ntxduck]

Keep him at Oregon was when UW kept DeBoer
If I am a Bama fan and I am, I am storming the gates if they replace DeBoer with someone who couldn't beat him
One of the big complaints about DeBoer now is that he is a soft west coast coach who doesn't get it. He is actually a tuff northern plains guy but still. Lanning would be seen as west coast as well and Oregon as a no natty glamour queen
I don't care if he stays or goes. Oregon obviously wants to keep him and did so unlike another school I follow. Danny is 37-6. Oregon learned that not just anyone can do it there after suffering through Helfrich and The Snake Killer. Mario was not as good as Lanning even with a couple conference titles.
UW hoping for this or that to stop Oregon is so fucking tired. Hire the right guy and fucking stop them yourself

I hate to say this, but as much as I think Deboner had some magic in himself while he was with Washington I also think you have to say Penix and the WRs were a big part of it. It's not like he kicked Oregon's asses … he had a unique QB with weapons who have that thing the makes them clutch in the clutch. UW might not see that combo again in our lifetimes (well, maybe yours)
He also was coaching a team that was good at the "us against the world" bit and was coming in as the underdog in these big games with a chip on his /their shoulder, real or imagined.
Fast forward to where he is now, he's a front runner and doesn't get to sneak up or underdog anybody and he doesn't have the tools he had in the passing game. He's just not the same guy there.
Most interesting to me is to wonder what happens if he stays at Washington. I think he comes back down to earth a little w/o Penix and the Jets. Better than Jedd? Probably. Maybe. IDK.

penix being an incredible qb doesn’t explain DeBoer winning at two other spots before UW, though. One of which he turned haener into an nfl qb

 

[creepycoug]

Keep him at Oregon was when UW kept DeBoer
If I am a Bama fan and I am, I am storming the gates if they replace DeBoer with someone who couldn't beat him
One of the big complaints about DeBoer now is that he is a soft west coast coach who doesn't get it. He is actually a tuff northern plains guy but still. Lanning would be seen as west coast as well and Oregon as a no natty glamour queen
I don't care if he stays or goes. Oregon obviously wants to keep him and did so unlike another school I follow. Danny is 37-6. Oregon learned that not just anyone can do it there after suffering through Helfrich and The Snake Killer. Mario was not as good as Lanning even with a couple conference titles.
UW hoping for this or that to stop Oregon is so fucking tired. Hire the right guy and fucking stop them yourself

I hate to say this, but as much as I think Deboner had some magic in himself while he was with Washington I also think you have to say Penix and the WRs were a big part of it. It's not like he kicked Oregon's asses … he had a unique QB with weapons who have that thing the makes them clutch in the clutch. UW might not see that combo again in our lifetimes (well, maybe yours)
He also was coaching a team that was good at the "us against the world" bit and was coming in as the underdog in these big games with a chip on his /their shoulder, real or imagined.
Fast forward to where he is now, he's a front runner and doesn't get to sneak up or underdog anybody and he doesn't have the tools he had in the passing game. He's just not the same guy there.
Most interesting to me is to wonder what happens if he stays at Washington. I think he comes back down to earth a little w/o Penix and the Jets. Better than Jedd? Probably. Maybe. IDK.

penix being an incredible qb doesn’t explain DeBoer winning at two other spots before UW, though. One of which he turned haener into an nfl qb

I agree. His overall record shows he's a good coach. No doubt about it.
And it's almost an Iron Law @Auburndawg that it's rare for a P5 coach to do it at an elite level at more than one P5 stop. Most fall on their faces when they move on. It's what makes Urbs legendary.
So him failing at Alabama doesn't mean he wasn't good at Washington. But still … he had that QB.

 

[flatus]

Keep him at Oregon was when UW kept DeBoer
If I am a Bama fan and I am, I am storming the gates if they replace DeBoer with someone who couldn't beat him
One of the big complaints about DeBoer now is that he is a soft west coast coach who doesn't get it. He is actually a tuff northern plains guy but still. Lanning would be seen as west coast as well and Oregon as a no natty glamour queen
I don't care if he stays or goes. Oregon obviously wants to keep him and did so unlike another school I follow. Danny is 37-6. Oregon learned that not just anyone can do it there after suffering through Helfrich and The Snake Killer. Mario was not as good as Lanning even with a couple conference titles.
UW hoping for this or that to stop Oregon is so fucking tired. Hire the right guy and fucking stop them yourself

I hate to say this, but as much as I think Deboner had some magic in himself while he was with Washington I also think you have to say Penix and the WRs were a big part of it. It's not like he kicked Oregon's asses … he had a unique QB with weapons who have that thing the makes them clutch in the clutch. UW might not see that combo again in our lifetimes (well, maybe yours)
He also was coaching a team that was good at the "us against the world" bit and was coming in as the underdog in these big games with a chip on his /their shoulder, real or imagined.
Fast forward to where he is now, he's a front runner and doesn't get to sneak up or underdog anybody and he doesn't have the tools he had in the passing game. He's just not the same guy there.
Most interesting to me is to wonder what happens if he stays at Washington. I think he comes back down to earth a little w/o Penix and the Jets. Better than Jedd? Probably. Maybe. IDK.

penix being an incredible qb doesn’t explain DeBoer winning at two other spots before UW, though. One of which he turned haener into an nfl qb

He excels at lower levels. Clearly in over his head at Bama.
I'm hearing some on this board would take him back, though.

 

[creepycoug]

Keep him at Oregon was when UW kept DeBoer
If I am a Bama fan and I am, I am storming the gates if they replace DeBoer with someone who couldn't beat him
One of the big complaints about DeBoer now is that he is a soft west coast coach who doesn't get it. He is actually a tuff northern plains guy but still. Lanning would be seen as west coast as well and Oregon as a no natty glamour queen
I don't care if he stays or goes. Oregon obviously wants to keep him and did so unlike another school I follow. Danny is 37-6. Oregon learned that not just anyone can do it there after suffering through Helfrich and The Snake Killer. Mario was not as good as Lanning even with a couple conference titles.
UW hoping for this or that to stop Oregon is so fucking tired. Hire the right guy and fucking stop them yourself

I hate to say this, but as much as I think Deboner had some magic in himself while he was with Washington I also think you have to say Penix and the WRs were a big part of it. It's not like he kicked Oregon's asses … he had a unique QB with weapons who have that thing the makes them clutch in the clutch. UW might not see that combo again in our lifetimes (well, maybe yours)
He also was coaching a team that was good at the "us against the world" bit and was coming in as the underdog in these big games with a chip on his /their shoulder, real or imagined.
Fast forward to where he is now, he's a front runner and doesn't get to sneak up or underdog anybody and he doesn't have the tools he had in the passing game. He's just not the same guy there.
Most interesting to me is to wonder what happens if he stays at Washington. I think he comes back down to earth a little w/o Penix and the Jets. Better than Jedd? Probably. Maybe. IDK.

penix being an incredible qb doesn’t explain DeBoer winning at two other spots before UW, though. One of which he turned haener into an nfl qb

He excels at lower levels. Clearly in over his head at Bama.
I'm hearing some on this board would take him back, though.

I haven't heard that. I think he's dead to everyone around here now.
Still, can't blame anyone for being disappointed in losing him and replacing him with Fischsticks.

 

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You post a lot, Woolley. I can't keep track of them all.
I definitely remember @RaceBannon losing his shit over recruiting during his first season. That all went away once he beat Oregon.
I guess I'm wondering why Rogers isn't more regularly called out as a huge red flag now that we all can see that Penix et al were DeBoer.
As you said, 2023 was a shitshow of improbable close calls. It was a great team, but it was because of the coaches on the field.

 

[RaceBannon]

25-3
UW fucked up. These rationalizations are amusing though
Until Judd goes 5-7

 

[WoolleyDoog]

Overall, I think Deboer is a good coach and I'm surprised he's struggling so much at Alabama. I thought quick success at Bama was a harder task than it might have seemed though. It didn't look like to the level of proven NFL talent and depth they had during Saban's years and he didn't have a QB for his system.
Deboer's Fresno success wasn't overly remarkable. Tedford was better before and after he was there. I was mostly excited about Deboer when he came because of his offense after nearly a decade of Pete and Jimmy's drek and bringing Haener with him.
Would consider Deboer back depending on what the options are but wasn't optimistic about the way he was doing things for success in college football in this wonderful day and age at the time he left.

 

[flatus]

25-3
UW fucked up. These rationalizations are amusing though
Until Judd goes 5-7

Bellotti was 23-3 with Joey Harrington starting his last 2 seasons.
And, no, Harrington was no Penix. Bellotti was no Chip, either.
I see 2023 UW as a mini-me version of 2019 LSU. Burrow, Jefferson et al. DeBoer = Orgeron.

 

[RaceBannon]

You post a lot, Woolley. I can't keep track of them all.
I definitely remember @RaceBannon losing his shit over recruiting during his first season. That all went away once he beat Oregon.
I guess I'm wondering why Rogers isn't more regularly called out as a huge red flag now that we all can see that Penix et al were DeBoer.
As you said, 2023 was a shitshow of improbable close calls. It was a great team, but it was because of the coaches on the field.

You memory of me is as bad as your takes on Husky Football
0-3 against DeBoer. You'd think that a great coach could figure it out. ASU did. Hell even WSU shut down the Husky O in 2023 as did Harbaugh
All we heard from duck fans was fan duel has us as favorites and we out recruit you and have more talent
How did that work out for you? No doubt you love our latest patsy and 49-21. Everyone does. He's a great recruiter!!!!!!
I've seen a slew of NFL quarterbacks at UW that didn't win shit. I've seen a slew of coaches that sucked.
I hadn't seen 4-8 to 25-3.
I don't give a shit about recruiting. There is a whole thread where I said I don't care how players got here jut how they performed when they did
Losers talk about recruiting. A fucking Iron Law as old as the site

 

[flatus]

You post a lot, Woolley. I can't keep track of them all.
I definitely remember @RaceBannon losing his shit over recruiting during his first season. That all went away once he beat Oregon.
I guess I'm wondering why Rogers isn't more regularly called out as a huge red flag now that we all can see that Penix et al were DeBoer.
As you said, 2023 was a shitshow of improbable close calls. It was a great team, but it was because of the coaches on the field.

You memory of me is as bad as your takes on Husky Football
0-3 against DeBoer. You'd think that a great coach could figure it out. ASU did. Hell even WSU shut down the Husky O in 2023 as did Harbaugh
All we heard from duck fans was fan duel has us as favorites and we out recruit you and have more talent
How did that work out for you? No doubt you love our latest patsy and 49-21. Everyone does. He's a great recruiter!!!!!!
I've seen a slew of NFL quarterbacks at UW that didn't win shit. I've seen a slew of coaches that sucked.
I hadn't seen 4-8 to 25-3.
I don't give a shit about recruiting. There is a whole thread where I said I don't care how players got here jut how they performed when they did
Losers talk about recruiting. A fucking Iron Law as old as the site

That's a lot of text about my singular word of the word recruiting. You're correct, my memory isn't great these days but the site keeps receipts so I don't have to.
Regardless, DeBoer did great things with a special group of players that were already here outside of Penix.
What are thoughts on Mike Norvell? He was 2-10 last year and clown-stomped your living hero (RIP Don James) on Saturday. You mentioned 4-8 to 25-3 so it's relevant.

 

[haie]

Dead Internet University needs everybody to stop and think that Montana State was good last year at the FCS level and this year is on par with a Mountain West school that spends more than WSU and OSU on football, up until 2 seasons ago had a better stadium, etc.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Keep him at Oregon was when UW kept DeBoer
If I am a Bama fan and I am, I am storming the gates if they replace DeBoer with someone who couldn't beat him
One of the big complaints about DeBoer now is that he is a soft west coast coach who doesn't get it. He is actually a tuff northern plains guy but still. Lanning would be seen as west coast as well and Oregon as a no natty glamour queen
I don't care if he stays or goes. Oregon obviously wants to keep him and did so unlike another school I follow. Danny is 37-6. Oregon learned that not just anyone can do it there after suffering through Helfrich and The Snake Killer. Mario was not as good as Lanning even with a couple conference titles.
UW hoping for this or that to stop Oregon is so fucking tired. Hire the right guy and fucking stop them yourself

I hate to say this, but as much as I think Deboner had some magic in himself while he was with Washington I also think you have to say Penix and the WRs were a big part of it. It's not like he kicked Oregon's asses … he had a unique QB with weapons who have that thing the makes them clutch in the clutch. UW might not see that combo again in our lifetimes (well, maybe yours)
He also was coaching a team that was good at the "us against the world" bit and was coming in as the underdog in these big games with a chip on his /their shoulder, real or imagined.
Fast forward to where he is now, he's a front runner and doesn't get to sneak up or underdog anybody and he doesn't have the tools he had in the passing game. He's just not the same guy there.
Most interesting to me is to wonder what happens if he stays at Washington. I think he comes back down to earth a little w/o Penix and the Jets. Better than Jedd? Probably. Maybe. IDK.

penix being an incredible qb doesn’t explain DeBoer winning at two other spots before UW, though. One of which he turned haener into an nfl qb

I agree. His overall record shows he's a good coach. No doubt about it.
And it's almost an Iron Law @Auburndawg that it's rare for a P5 coach to do it at an elite level at more than one P5 stop. Most fall on their faces when they move on. It's what makes Urbs legendary.
So him failing at Alabama doesn't mean he wasn't good at Washington. But still … he had that QB.

Odds are against the next hire being better than the current guy even if he can't break through the top. The more tries he gets maybe the more likely he is to get it done.
Regression to the mean on coach hiring etc. in as far as that, I'm always rooting for chaos for Oregon. They aren't going back to 4-8 perennial losers without a special crash course though, too much institutional support and advantage now.

 

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Dead Internet University needs everybody to stop and think that Montana State was good last year at the FCS level and this year is on par with a Mountain West school that spends more than WSU and OSU on football, up until 2 seasons ago had a better stadium, etc.

I'm drinking a soapy IPA right now in your honor.

 

[haie]

Dead Internet University needs everybody to stop and think that Montana State was good last year at the FCS level and this year is on par with a Mountain West school that spends more than WSU and OSU on football, up until 2 seasons ago had a better stadium, etc.

I'm drinking a soapy IPA right now in your honor.

I'm dropping some old shit off at GoodWill in yours.

 

[RaceBannon]

The ongoing complete insecurity of duck fans is a tradition unlike any other

 

[DerekJohnson]

Keep him at Oregon was when UW kept DeBoer
If I am a Bama fan and I am, I am storming the gates if they replace DeBoer with someone who couldn't beat him
One of the big complaints about DeBoer now is that he is a soft west coast coach who doesn't get it. He is actually a tuff northern plains guy but still. Lanning would be seen as west coast as well and Oregon as a no natty glamour queen
I don't care if he stays or goes. Oregon obviously wants to keep him and did so unlike another school I follow. Danny is 37-6. Oregon learned that not just anyone can do it there after suffering through Helfrich and The Snake Killer. Mario was not as good as Lanning even with a couple conference titles.
UW hoping for this or that to stop Oregon is so fucking tired. Hire the right guy and fucking stop them yourself

My OP was a joke. I don't care one way or the other

 

[DerekJohnson]

Come on Flatass I've at least said many times I questioned DeBoner's recruiting and portal recruiting prowess and that the best he could bring in for 2024 was Rogers was shameful and his best defense is he was already out the door.
I think he would have probably went 8-4 last year, maybe 9-3, but no idea after that. The guys he signed at UW have not been particularly impressive.
Seems like he was on track to be a music artist who had an all-time debut album but then just disappointed after that forever.

DeBoer was the Cyndi Lauper of college football?

 

[RaceBannon]

I'm actually glad to hear how DeBoer had very little to do with the success
Bodes well for Fisch

 

[Canadawg]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOHHXlGAZWT/?igsh=aWV4c202amc1cXRz

 

[dtd]

Dead Internet University needs everybody to stop and think that Montana State was good last year at the FCS level and this year is on par with a Mountain West school that spends more than WSU and OSU on football, up until 2 seasons ago had a better stadium, etc.

You fucking doogs are so goddamned insecure. Literally nobody has said that. CSU would smoke MSU. You are so pathetic.