Kyle Patterson, 3* 2019 TE, Gilbert (Perry), AZ (OFFERED - 12/2/18)

I'm torn on Paopao ...

He's never gotten anybody that didn't basically just land in his lap ...

The TE performance is generally good but how much of that is tied to his coaching vs the players he gets is debatable ...

There's zero evidence to suggest that he's a strong recruiter ...[/b]

That being said he is Poly and having 2 Poly guys on staff may have some tangible messages to what Malloe is selling ...

I don't think on the surface it's an easy decision to upgrade given the last point, but the overall recruiting doesn't seem up to par for how we use and the importance of the TE in this offense.
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So is it he gets good players and doesn't know how to coach or does he not know how to get good players but knows how to coach?

You TBSers sometimes need to read what you write.
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You can get good players and not be a good recruiter. Jonathan smith didn’t turn into some recruiting wizard by getting sirmon. Gregory isn’t a recruiting wizard if he gets Heimuli because USC didn’t recruit him because he didn’t go to flashy combines and seven on and Ikaika started the relationship by building up our poly culture and offering ngalu early who will probably come up on Heimulis visit.

Hunter committed almost the second we offered him as with Cade. Culp was a lubick Guy.

What Teq means when debating the on field performance is, is Paopao turning hunger Bryant into Travis kelce or is Pete’s offense in general, his high usage rate of TE’s in all different formations, & the lack of a true number 1 receiver especially a big bodied one make Paopao look like a better coach than he is. That has nothing to do with his ability to recruit.

The ability to recruit: signing the highest possible option on your board without having to go down the list even if another school seems to be the favorite it shouldn’t matter because we’re the U FUCKING DUB.
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WGAF if he can recruit if all of his players continue to be chincredible.

Recruiting is a means to an end, not an end of itself.

Paopao gets results.
 
I'm torn on Paopao ...

He's never gotten anybody that didn't basically just land in his lap ...

The TE performance is generally good but how much of that is tied to his coaching vs the players he gets is debatable ...

There's zero evidence to suggest that he's a strong recruiter ...[/b]

That being said he is Poly and having 2 Poly guys on staff may have some tangible messages to what Malloe is selling ...

I don't think on the surface it's an easy decision to upgrade given the last point, but the overall recruiting doesn't seem up to par for how we use and the importance of the TE in this offense.
Click to expand...

So is it he gets good players and doesn't know how to coach or does he not know how to get good players but knows how to coach?

You TBSers sometimes need to read what you write.
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You can get good players and not be a good recruiter. Jonathan smith didn’t turn into some recruiting wizard by getting sirmon. Gregory isn’t a recruiting wizard if he gets Heimuli because USC didn’t recruit him because he didn’t go to flashy combines and seven on and Ikaika started the relationship by building up our poly culture and offering ngalu early who will probably come up on Heimulis visit.

Hunter committed almost the second we offered him as with Cade. Culp was a lubick Guy.

What Teq means when debating the on field performance is, is Paopao turning hunger Bryant into Travis kelce or is Pete’s offense in general, his high usage rate of TE’s in all different formations, & the lack of a true number 1 receiver especially a big bodied one make Paopao look like a better coach than he is. That has nothing to do with his ability to recruit.

The ability to recruit: signing the highest possible option on your board without having to go down the list even if another school seems to be the favorite it shouldn’t matter because we’re the U FUCKING DUB.
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WGAF if he can recruit if all of his players continue to be chincredible.

Recruiting is a means to an end, not an end of itself.

Paopao gets results.
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Because OUR PLAYERS COULD BE EVEN BETTER IF HE COULD ACTUALLY RECRUIT. Imagine him with more talented TEs!

DO BOTH!
 
I was under the impression it's results based. I don't care how they get here as long as they get here and produce.

He developed Dissly Dawg, Sample will get drafted, got black beast, got Otton, Kizer, Culp.

What are we even talking about?!
 
I was under the impression it's results based. I don't care how they get here as long as they get here and produce.

He developed Dissly Dawg, Sample will get drafted, got black beast, got Otton, Kizer, Culp.

What are we even talking about?!
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DO BOTH!!!! He’s done a great job with guys! I want to see him with guys that he misses every year, but sadly he can’t get them.
 
2019 was actually a pretty decent TE year on the west,

Foskey(TE/DE whatever), Liebrock, Wolfe, Herbert, Martinez, Archer

The best team in the conference should never be settling for the 7th best TE, especially when 0 are going to Stanford!
 
I'm torn on Paopao ...

He's never gotten anybody that didn't basically just land in his lap ...

The TE performance is generally good but how much of that is tied to his coaching vs the players he gets is debatable ...

There's zero evidence to suggest that he's a strong recruiter ...[/b]

That being said he is Poly and having 2 Poly guys on staff may have some tangible messages to what Malloe is selling ...

I don't think on the surface it's an easy decision to upgrade given the last point, but the overall recruiting doesn't seem up to par for how we use and the importance of the TE in this offense.
Click to expand...

So is it he gets good players and doesn't know how to coach or does he not know how to get good players but knows how to coach?

You TBSers sometimes need to read what you write.
Click to expand...

You can get good players and not be a good recruiter. Jonathan smith didn’t turn into some recruiting wizard by getting sirmon. Gregory isn’t a recruiting wizard if he gets Heimuli because USC didn’t recruit him because he didn’t go to flashy combines and seven on and Ikaika started the relationship by building up our poly culture and offering ngalu early who will probably come up on Heimulis visit.

Hunter committed almost the second we offered him as with Cade. Culp was a lubick Guy.

What Teq means when debating the on field performance is, is Paopao turning hunger Bryant into Travis kelce or is Pete’s offense in general, his high usage rate of TE’s in all different formations, & the lack of a true number 1 receiver especially a big bodied one make Paopao look like a better coach than he is. That has nothing to do with his ability to recruit.

The ability to recruit: signing the highest possible option on your board without having to go down the list even if another school seems to be the favorite it shouldn’t matter because we’re the U FUCKING DUB.
Click to expand...

WGAF if he can recruit if all of his players continue to be chincredible.

Recruiting is a means to an end, not an end of itself.

Paopao gets results.
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WRONG WRONG WRONG

You want the best players possible ... then you coach them to be even fucking better

It’s not fucking hard
 
I don’t get the low standards.

Recruit or fuck off. You think at Ohio State they are like “well, we’ll just take the #2 TE in Oregon because this guy can teach TEs to push people around?”

FUCK NO.

Elite players every year at every position.

The same people slobbing Hunter’s knob also are over here saying it doesn’t matter who he gets because he develops people.

My fucking Christ.

Ready for Bama’s formula?

Step 1: get the best players in the country.
Step 2: get them to play to the best of their ability.

So you guys think that we should do step 2, but that Bama is overestimating step 1?

I thought people had standards around here. Fucking Hell.
 
Should I be concerned that we can’t get a visit out of either TE committed to USC who doesn’t have a TE coach and is about to hire an OC who doesn’t use TEs?
 
Should I be concerned that we can’t get a visit out of either TE committed to USC who doesn’t have a TE coach and is about to hire an OC who doesn’t use TEs?
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the mystique of USC is still appealing to most kids down there.
 
https://twitter.com/kpatts3/status/1069267810323390464
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Why would people pay dawgman and Ruth when they didn’t even know this kid existed. And I said we were likely to offer 10 days ago?

🤔
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Stalin appreciates all the donations so DDY can spread all the tbsing info
 
His film looks good to me. Couple years in the weight room and he could be a stud. Good offer.
 
His film looks good to me. Couple years in the weight room and he could be a stud. Good offer.
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I mean: it's fine. He'll be good for us.

Meanwhile a team that doesn't have a TE coach has the top 2 on the West Coast.
 
His film looks good to me. Couple years in the weight room and he could be a stud. Good offer.
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I mean: it's fine. He'll be good for us.

Meanwhile a team that doesn't have a TE coach has the top 2 on the West Coast.
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Who cares? This kid has just as much NFL potential as those guys do. Paopao does a great job coaching his guys up. Watch this kid go to UW and get drafted ahead of those USC TE's.
 
His film looks good to me. Couple years in the weight room and he could be a stud. Good offer.
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I mean: it's fine. He'll be good for us.

Meanwhile a team that doesn't have a TE coach has the top 2 on the West Coast.
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Who cares? This kid has just as much NFL potential as those guys do. Paopao does a great job coaching his guys up. Watch this kid go to UW and get drafted ahead of those USC TE's.
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