Killing People Is Harder Than You'd Think

Why not use the same stuff they use dogs and horses? They just pass out and die in a minute. What's the big complication here?
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The drug company lobbyists probably forced through laws that disallowed using animal euthanizing drugs on humans... claiming that only human euthanizing drugs were good enough for humans.

Never underestimate the desire of a company to do whatever it takes to use the government in an effort to pass legislation to give them a competitive advantage.

American "capitalism" at work.

 
If he'd killed a family member of mine it wouldn't have taken me that long to snuff the asshole...
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I love it when people talk about "what they would do" to someone if they killed or raped a family member. Hypothetical murder of family member tough guys.. You'd do what 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of everyone else does and watch the legal process handle it.
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True. I'd only go medieval on the guy if the legal system fucked it up...
 
Why not use the same stuff they use dogs and horses? They just pass out and die in a minute. What's the big complication here?
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The drug company lobbyists probably forced through laws that disallowed using animal euthanizing drugs on humans... claiming that only human euthanizing drugs were good enough for humans.

Never underestimate the desire of a company to do whatever it takes to use the government in an effort to pass legislation to give them a competitive advantage.

American "capitalism" at work.
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American "government" at work. Always fucking it up. And taking your money to do it.
 
Why not use the same stuff they use dogs and horses? They just pass out and die in a minute. What's the big complication here?
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The drug company lobbyists probably forced through laws that disallowed using animal euthanizing drugs on humans... claiming that only human euthanizing drugs were good enough for humans.

Never underestimate the desire of a company to do whatever it takes to use the government in an effort to pass legislation to give them a competitive advantage.

American "capitalism" at work.
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American "government" at work. Always fucking it up. And taking your money to do it.
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Major pressing.
 
Damone would fail to see the role played by lobbyists in shaping policy.
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I think he can see their role quite clearly.

Do the lobbyists actually get elected and vote on the legislation? I thought not.

"The buck stops here."
 
The death penalty is an embarrassment to America. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves. You can not make one death right with another.
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No. We should be proud that we render justice. You can't make one death right with another. But you can get rid of a menace to society, a useless sack of bones that's not worth the risk or money to try and rehabilitate. If you take a life through murder, you forfeit the right to live. That's justice. Europe might be more your speed. You can be Slobodan Milosevic there if you want, commit thousands of murders and you will only go to prison.
 
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There is no forfeit. No inherent justice. If one man commits a murder and is punished by 100 men to death, what's left is 100 murderers.

The hypocrisy of law, saying it's wrong to kill therefore we will kill, is disgusting.

As a race we should strive to be better than that.
 
There is no forfeit. No inherent justice. If one man commits a murder and is punished by 100 men to death, what's left is 100 murderers.

The hypocrisy of law, saying it's wrong to kill therefore we will kill, is disgusting.

As a race we should strive to be better than that.
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Executing a murderer is not murder. HTH. It's the ultimate consequence for an inhumane act. People need to understand that murder won't be tolerated. And we improve ourselves as a race by removing these monsters from our presence.
 
It's a disgrace that minorities are statistically more likely to be executed than whites, but concurrently it's naive to expect people to move past the desire for vengeance.
 
There is no forfeit. No inherent justice. If one man commits a murder and is punished by 100 men to death, what's left is 100 murderers.

The hypocrisy of law, saying it's wrong to kill therefore we will kill, is disgusting.

As a race we should strive to be better than that.
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It's silly to argue either way. Let individual states decide on it. If you don't like the death penalty, you can go commit murders in a state that doesn't have it.

I will say one thing, though. We keep the peace with war, don't we? Some people only understand violence. It's ridiculous to apply the morals of rational minds to those who have none. I say let 'em fry. But that's just my opinion.
 
The death penalty has been shown to be inaffective in disincentivizing capital crimes, and only credulous idiots actually believe that war keeps the peace. Ask Iraq how that works.
 
Explain how punishing someone to death isn't a murder without using a logical fallacy. GOOD FUCKING LUCK.

How exactly is putting someone in prison for life tolerating murder? But since it's so important I would imagine you have a ton of evidence that shows the death penalty deters murder. Link?
 
Explain how punishing someone to death isn't a murder without using a logical fallacy. GOOD FUCKING LUCK.

How exactly is putting someone in prison for life tolerating murder? But since it's so important I would imagine you have a ton of evidence that shows the death penalty deters murder. Link?
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I thought only Mike Damone demanded links. My first priority is to puff some green. Maybe if I feel like it I'll do some research. This is just an opinion after all.
 
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Explain how punishing someone to death isn't a murder without using a logical fallacy. GOOD FUCKING LUCK.

How exactly is putting someone in prison for life tolerating murder? But since it's so important I would imagine you have a ton of evidence that shows the death penalty deters murder. Link?
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Let's start with the definition of murder.

mur·der
ˈmərdər/
noun
noun: murder; plural noun: murders
1.
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
"the stabbing murder of an off-Broadway producer"
synonyms: killing, homicide, assassination, liquidation, extermination, execution, slaughter, butchery, massacre; More
 
Explain how punishing someone to death isn't a murder without using a logical fallacy. GOOD FUCKING LUCK.

How exactly is putting someone in prison for life tolerating murder? But since it's so important I would imagine you have a ton of evidence that shows the death penalty deters murder. Link?
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By that same token is imprisoning someone for kidnapping hypocrisy? Is fining someone for stealing hypocritical?

I'm not super pro capital punishment, but I think the logical fallacy in this one is "death penalty = murder". We accept that government is allowed to do things individuals can't do literally every single day of our lives.
 
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Explain how punishing someone to death isn't a murder without using a logical fallacy. GOOD FUCKING LUCK.

How exactly is putting someone in prison for life tolerating murder? But since it's so important I would imagine you have a ton of evidence that shows the death penalty deters murder. Link?
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Let's start with the definition of murder.

mur·der
ˈmərdər/
noun
noun: murder; plural noun: murders
1.
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
"the stabbing murder of an off-Broadway producer"
synonyms: killing, homicide, assassination, liquidation, extermination, execution, slaughter, butchery, massacre; More
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Legality rests on the credibility of the state, strange argument for a libertarian to make.

Not to mention that it takes just one court decision to brand executions cruel and unusual.
 
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There is no forfeit. No inherent justice. If one man commits a murder and is punished by 100 men to death, what's left is 100 murderers.

The hypocrisy of law, saying it's wrong to kill therefore we will kill, is disgusting.

As a race we should strive to be better than that.
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It's silly to argue either way. Let individual states decide on it. If you don't like the death penalty, you can go commit murders in a state that doesn't have it.

I will say one thing, though. We keep the peace with war, don't we? Some people only understand violence. It's ridiculous to apply the morals of rational minds to those who have none. I say let 'em fry. But that's just my opinion.
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Ignoring the first paragraph of libertarian spew.

We shouldn't be keeping the peace with war.

What I think is ridiculous is to think that because someone is irrational, morality no longer applies.
 
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