Just to keep track here

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

8 or less wins the year after playing for a natty. Man this game is ruined.

8 would be a miracle. O/U is 5. There is nothing left. Boner absolutely salted the Earth on this program. If Fishdick can get about 10 of AZ best players to come here then you have a pulse and it is just a rebuilding year, otherwise it's a dumpster fire.

I thought the O/U with Fats was 9.5 and that was with players returning. I think an O/U of 5 might be generous.