just heard on ESPN there was a player pole @ Miami re: Ritchie Incognito

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If this pole is in fact true....it shows once again the knuckle-dragging meathead mentality of athletes.

I agree, but this is not any other job or business. It's athletics. It's different. And this isn't just athletics, it's football, the most violent sport of them all. Save the hockey comparison for someone more open-minded than I am. Even James said in a now famous interview, when addressing a run-up in campus "incidents" involving his "student athletes", and I paraphrase, you are recruiting a different kind of kid ... you're looking for, in many instances, a kid with a wild hair up his ass. You're looking for killers. And you are.

This is pro football. Any 300+ lb. offensive lineman who can be bullied is not an offensive lineman I want to pay millions of dollars to play. Do you think Gogan or Kreutz or Garcia or Kennedy or Malamala could have been "bullied" as rookies? I don't. I think they would have done what they needed to do under whatever hazing tradition they were dealing with, and if/when it crossed their line, they would have stood on the line and said, "fuck you you overrated roided up Nebraska piece of shit. come get your $ you faggot mother fucker." or words to that effect.

I would have liked to have met the mother fucker who could "bully" Sean Taylor. LOL! Yeah, i'd have paid $$ to watch that with a bag of popcorn.

In fact when Kreutz was a freshman he kicked the shit out of Suki Wiggs who was an NFL upperclassman on the roster. I'm not saying what Kreutz did was right and I was pissed because Wiggs was supposed to be a key player for us.

However, I knew that Kreutz was going to be a stud OL for us. If Miami were to panic and release Incognito I would be hoping the Seahawks would sign him. I know in Seattle if he tried that shit Pete would get rid of his ass and I 'd like to think the players that Pete brings in wouldn't back down either.

I remember a famous saying in football you want 80% of your roster to be good normal run of the mill guys, 10% to be outstanding people who are really smart, and the other 10% to be criminals/thugs. The key is that the 80% makes sure that the 10% on each side never interact with each other.

You need these type of guys on your roster as fucked up as it is.

Fuck Kruetz. He did far more harm than good. He seemed to get flagged for a personal foul for every good thing he did. Not a leader and the team he was on under achieved. If he DIAFF I would pop a cork. Piece of mother fucking shit.

And by the way Wiggs was not a real NFL prospect.

I'm not going to pin the underachieving on Kreutz though. Had James or even Rick been his head coach he would have been a Rose Bowl champion. That falls on Lambo.

This program could use a couple of Kruetz as they haven't had anyone with an attitude in a long time.