Johnny Wilson, 2020 5* WR, Calabasas, CA (Offered 7/14/17)

[dirtysouwfdawg]

https://twitter.com/gregbiggins/status/1130242718695735297?s=21

“I’m taking my official visit to Oregon in July,” Wilson said. “I don’t have a date with Washington yet but I’m planning to visit them this summer for an official visit as well. That will be in June or July, I just need to lock that in and I like UW a lot and like what their program has to offer.”

Looking like both McMillan and Wilson are trending towards pre-September commitments.

At least the weather will be good, right ballz?

I’m scured... we need one of these two guys. Sam needs an alpha #1 and I think we have some BA # 2’s moving forward.

Did Johny and jalen not get it wet enough with FSP to realize they want to hit that again and again?

#dowork Jr Adams.

 

[Tequilla]

Going to have to catch up and beat Oregon on this one

 

[whuggy]

Going to have to catch up and beat Oregon on this one

Says Oregon is recruiting him hardest by far. The words by far are unacceptable to me. The first thing you do in ANY job is put in maximum effort. Forget the race allegations. Lazy allegations might be more appropriate.

 

[UDubHusky23]

Going to have to catch up and beat Oregon on this one

Says Oregon is recruiting him hardest by far. The words by far are unacceptable to me. The first thing you do in ANY job is put in maximum effort. Forget the race allegations. Lazy allegations might be more appropriate.

Right on cue... Biggins cb to Oregon.... great job to our staff.

Team no hype and okg coming at you! But we got skinny!

 

[Ballz]

There ain't no catching up to be had. This is exactly what I already told you guys. It's not "lazy recruiting" when you don't really want the kid like that. This is what happens when you have a coaching staff that completely ignores star ratings and do their own evaluations. Sometimes they completely disagree with the ratings and prefer "3-star" kids (Rome Odunze and Sawyer Racanelli) over an overrated "5-star" kid. Wilson is Brayden Lenius 2.0. Don't know how many times I have to say that for it to sink in. He's not a great WR prospect. I don't care if he goes to Oregon or anywhere else. It's a win for us if a not so good WR or soft TE prospect goes to Oregon and further clogs up their roster. Move on. All I care about is the coaches getting who THEY want. Not who fan boys who don't know shit about football talent want. I get pissed when they whiff on guys they actually want. This isn't one of those instances.

 

[blackmamba]

There ain't no catching up to be had. This is exactly what I already told you guys. It's not "lazy recruiting" when you don't really want the kid like that. This is what happens when you have a coaching staff that completely ignores star ratings and do their own evaluations. Sometimes they completely disagree with the ratings and prefer "3-star" kids (Rome Odunze and Sawyer Racanelli) over an overrated "5-star" kid. Wilson is Brayden Lenius 2.0. Don't know how many times I have to say that for it to sink in. He's not a great WR prospect. I don't care if he goes to Oregon or anywhere else. It's a win for us if a not so good WR or soft TE prospect goes to Oregon and further clogs up their roster. Move on. All I care about is the coaches getting who THEY want. Not who fan boys who don't know shit about football talent want. I get pissed when they whiff on guys they actually want. This isn't one of those instances.

He was offered by uw.

 

[Tequilla]

Going to have to catch up and beat Oregon on this one

Says Oregon is recruiting him hardest by far. The words by far are unacceptable to me. The first thing you do in ANY job is put in maximum effort. Forget the race allegations. Lazy allegations might be more appropriate.

Yes, this is what stood out to me as well

Clearly Oregon's prioritized Wilson.

As to why we haven't recruited as hard who knows ...

It would seem like we liked McMillan better of the two but who knows

One thing that is generally clear with the staff is that when they feel like they aren't in a good position they tend to re-prioritize ... that can be argued whether that's a good/bad thing.

 

[Tequilla]

There ain't no catching up to be had. This is exactly what I already told you guys. It's not "lazy recruiting" when you don't really want the kid like that. This is what happens when you have a coaching staff that completely ignores star ratings and do their own evaluations. Sometimes they completely disagree with the ratings and prefer "3-star" kids (Rome Odunze and Sawyer Racanelli) over an overrated "5-star" kid. Wilson is Brayden Lenius 2.0. Don't know how many times I have to say that for it to sink in. He's not a great WR prospect. I don't care if he goes to Oregon or anywhere else. It's a win for us if a not so good WR or soft TE prospect goes to Oregon and further clogs up their roster. Move on. All I care about is the coaches getting who THEY want. Not who fan boys who don't know shit about football talent want. I get pissed when they whiff on guys they actually want. This isn't one of those instances.

One of the rare posts where I agree with you on this topic ...

It's been clear for years that Pete and Co. don't give a shit about star ratings and what people like Biggins think of the talent. If those guys were really good at talent evaluation you could argue that they'd be sitting in some football program.

Ultimately in the end, what really matters is that UW signs the best class possible. The ultimate judge of how they've done will be on the field. End of story.

 

[Baseman]

There ain't no catching up to be had. This is exactly what I already told you guys. It's not "lazy recruiting" when you don't really want the kid like that. This is what happens when you have a coaching staff that completely ignores star ratings and do their own evaluations. Sometimes they completely disagree with the ratings and prefer "3-star" kids (Rome Odunze and Sawyer Racanelli) over an overrated "5-star" kid. Wilson is Brayden Lenius 2.0. Don't know how many times I have to say that for it to sink in. He's not a great WR prospect. I don't care if he goes to Oregon or anywhere else. It's a win for us if a not so good WR or soft TE prospect goes to Oregon and further clogs up their roster. Move on. All I care about is the coaches getting who THEY want. Not who fan boys who don't know shit about football talent want. I get pissed when they whiff on guys they actually want. This isn't one of those instances.

Thank you Mrs. Peterson and all Trusting Coaches Doogs everywhere.

 

[Ballz]

There ain't no catching up to be had. This is exactly what I already told you guys. It's not "lazy recruiting" when you don't really want the kid like that. This is what happens when you have a coaching staff that completely ignores star ratings and do their own evaluations. Sometimes they completely disagree with the ratings and prefer "3-star" kids (Rome Odunze and Sawyer Racanelli) over an overrated "5-star" kid. Wilson is Brayden Lenius 2.0. Don't know how many times I have to say that for it to sink in. He's not a great WR prospect. I don't care if he goes to Oregon or anywhere else. It's a win for us if a not so good WR or soft TE prospect goes to Oregon and further clogs up their roster. Move on. All I care about is the coaches getting who THEY want. Not who fan boys who don't know shit about football talent want. I get pissed when they whiff on guys they actually want. This isn't one of those instances.

He was offered by uw.

That doesn't mean shit. How long have you all had to understand that not everybody UW offers is a guy they eventually want to sign. Even with how few offers they put out, they still offer way more kids than they can take. Every year, they offer kids early and then after further evaluation, they cool on some of them and don't want them anymore. It's not a perfect system.

 

[Ballz]

There ain't no catching up to be had. This is exactly what I already told you guys. It's not "lazy recruiting" when you don't really want the kid like that. This is what happens when you have a coaching staff that completely ignores star ratings and do their own evaluations. Sometimes they completely disagree with the ratings and prefer "3-star" kids (Rome Odunze and Sawyer Racanelli) over an overrated "5-star" kid. Wilson is Brayden Lenius 2.0. Don't know how many times I have to say that for it to sink in. He's not a great WR prospect. I don't care if he goes to Oregon or anywhere else. It's a win for us if a not so good WR or soft TE prospect goes to Oregon and further clogs up their roster. Move on. All I care about is the coaches getting who THEY want. Not who fan boys who don't know shit about football talent want. I get pissed when they whiff on guys they actually want. This isn't one of those instances.

Thank you Mrs. Peterson and all Trusting Coaches Doogs everywhere.

I'm not trusting the coaches. I'm trusting what my two eyes tell me when I watch Wilson's film. He sucks. From the very beginning I didn't think he was a WR prospect but a flex TE guy who's a big target with good hands but not athletic enough to play outside and not strong and physical enough to play in-line TE.
https://twitter.com/BraydenLenius/status/1064725789575237632

 

[backthepack]

Lol you are a fucking joke

 

[Ballz]

Lol you are a fucking joke

I'll be proven right a few years from now, again.

 

[CallMeBigErn]

There ain't no catching up to be had. This is exactly what I already told you guys. It's not "lazy recruiting" when you don't really want the kid like that. This is what happens when you have a coaching staff that completely ignores star ratings and do their own evaluations. Sometimes they completely disagree with the ratings and prefer "3-star" kids (Rome Odunze and Sawyer Racanelli) over an overrated "5-star" kid. Wilson is Brayden Lenius 2.0. Don't know how many times I have to say that for it to sink in. He's not a great WR prospect. I don't care if he goes to Oregon or anywhere else. It's a win for us if a not so good WR or soft TE prospect goes to Oregon and further clogs up their roster. Move on. All I care about is the coaches getting who THEY want. Not who fan boys who don't know shit about football talent want. I get pissed when they whiff on guys they actually want. This isn't one of those instances.

One of the rare posts where I agree with you on this topic ...

It's been clear for years that Pete and Co. don't give a shit about star ratings and what people like Biggins think of the talent. If those guys were really good at talent evaluation you could argue that they'd be sitting in some football program.

Ultimately in the end, what really matters is that UW signs the best class possible. The ultimate judge of how they've done will be on the field. End of story.

You are killing it with rationality tonight, Teq. It's a rare thing to see in here and it's making me rock hard.

 

[RoadDawg55]

There ain't no catching up to be had. This is exactly what I already told you guys. It's not "lazy recruiting" when you don't really want the kid like that. This is what happens when you have a coaching staff that completely ignores star ratings and do their own evaluations. Sometimes they completely disagree with the ratings and prefer "3-star" kids (Rome Odunze and Sawyer Racanelli) over an overrated "5-star" kid. Wilson is Brayden Lenius 2.0. Don't know how many times I have to say that for it to sink in. He's not a great WR prospect. I don't care if he goes to Oregon or anywhere else. It's a win for us if a not so good WR or soft TE prospect goes to Oregon and further clogs up their roster. Move on. All I care about is the coaches getting who THEY want. Not who fan boys who don't know shit about football talent want. I get pissed when they whiff on guys they actually want. This isn't one of those instances.

Thank you Mrs. Peterson and all Trusting Coaches Doogs everywhere.

It’s fine not to trust it and think we are blowing it by not recruiting Wilson harder. That said, I don’t think it’s because UW coaches are lazy. There is a reason.

 

[NEsnake12]

Brayden Lenius' biggest problem is that he didn't know how to use his size. He was soft and afraid of contact (see his 3rd down play against Boise where he could've fallen forward for a first down and didn't). If you can't separate regularly, you have to be physical... and he wasn't.

Meanwhile Wilson's highlights show that he's willing to use his size to fight for extra yards and box out defenders for contested throws. He'll probably have trouble getting regular separation, but his physicality can make up for that.

Texas made Lil'Jordan Humphrey a weapon on 3rd down and in the redzone using exact skill set. He ended up undrafted because of his limitations, but he was still able to be a monster in a college offense that used him properly.

 

[GreenRiverGatorz]

There ain't no catching up to be had. This is exactly what I already told you guys. It's not "lazy recruiting" when you don't really want the kid like that. This is what happens when you have a coaching staff that completely ignores star ratings and do their own evaluations. Sometimes they completely disagree with the ratings and prefer "3-star" kids (Rome Odunze and Sawyer Racanelli) over an overrated "5-star" kid. Wilson is Brayden Lenius 2.0. Don't know how many times I have to say that for it to sink in. He's not a great WR prospect. I don't care if he goes to Oregon or anywhere else. It's a win for us if a not so good WR or soft TE prospect goes to Oregon and further clogs up their roster. Move on. All I care about is the coaches getting who THEY want. Not who fan boys who don't know shit about football talent want. I get pissed when they whiff on guys they actually want. This isn't one of those instances.

He was offered by uw.

That doesn't mean shit. How long have you all had to understand that not everybody UW offers is a guy they eventually want to sign. Even with how few offers they put out, they still offer way more kids than they can take. Every year, they offer kids early and then after further evaluation, they cool on some of them and don't want them anymore. It's not a perfect system.

What the fuck are you talking about? Half this board is bitching about how slow we are to offer. But now we prematurely offered Wilson and are back pedaling?

Since you appear to be such a student of his film, what did coaches see in his freshman year film that didn't translate to his sophomore and junior seasons? Where did he fall off?

 

[HillsboroDuck]

There ain't no catching up to be had. This is exactly what I already told you guys. It's not "lazy recruiting" when you don't really want the kid like that. This is what happens when you have a coaching staff that completely ignores star ratings and do their own evaluations. Sometimes they completely disagree with the ratings and prefer "3-star" kids (Rome Odunze and Sawyer Racanelli) over an overrated "5-star" kid. Wilson is Brayden Lenius 2.0. Don't know how many times I have to say that for it to sink in. He's not a great WR prospect. I don't care if he goes to Oregon or anywhere else. It's a win for us if a not so good WR or soft TE prospect goes to Oregon and further clogs up their roster. Move on. All I care about is the coaches getting who THEY want. Not who fan boys who don't know shit about football talent want. I get pissed when they whiff on guys they actually want. This isn't one of those instances.

He was offered by uw.

That doesn't mean shit. How long have you all had to understand that not everybody UW offers is a guy they eventually want to sign. Even with how few offers they put out, they still offer way more kids than they can take. Every year, they offer kids early and then after further evaluation, they cool on some of them and don't want them anymore. It's not a perfect system.

What the fuck are you talking about? Half this board is bitching about how slow we are to offer. But now we prematurely offered Wilson and are back pedaling?

Since you appear to be such a student of his film, what did coaches see in his freshman year film that didn't translate to his sophomore and junior seasons? Where did he fall off?

Allow me to help:

Ballz started to get the vibe that Wilson was feeling Oregon so he had an epiphany that Wilson had some issues that was causing UW to back off. If Wilson commits to UW, new tape will show a much improved Wilson who has overcome his lack of agility and become a worth 5 star again.

Never doubt the script.

 

[LaMichael_Corleone]

Bush has recruited this kid as since the 8th grade. They’re not cooling on him. He has a best friend who goes to Oregon. Connections and relationships matter. This is what happens when you straight up, don’t recruit in the spring. We email a couple of edited pictures and send a couple texts while other teams are refusing to be outworked. The laziness and the hubris to think you can make up for talent lost with coaching is what rubs people off the wrong way and laziness reactionary decisions instead of forward thinking proactivity is how we? got in a “race thing”. Effort. Effort. Effort.

If you lose Johnny Wilson to Oregon because he feels more comfortable there after you sold him the hardest you possibly could, that’s fine you can’t get everyone. If you lose him to Oregon while they’ve only had 2 WRs EVER drafted in the first two rounds and have a shit degree because you’re so cocky you don’t put in max effort, then I’m gonna be pissed. What do you think made Sav’ell start questioning UDUB after he couldn’t get enough of it right before and just after signing day?

 

[Tequilla]

I'm pretty sure that we just stopped recruiting everybody in the Spring ... that makes little sense