Jobless Claims 187,000

[TurdBomber]

“What hypothetical? Why was unemployment and participation that low from the 2019 high”.

I dont know, but all I know whatever it was happened under Trump’s watch. but notice, I did an apples to apples comparison about Trumps improvement of that rate from 2017 when he took office to when it reached that 2019 high? You did notice I didn’t try to trick and blame Trump for it being at the 61.5 where Biden found it at right? You noticed that?

Based on how you guys are making your arguments in here, thats certainly something some of the idiots in here like the Duck fans would have tried to do.

No, you just intentionally ignored the effect of the blue state and blue city lockdowns on the small business private sector economy by your side. In March of 2020 record growth in real wages that then went into the shitter with the blue lockdowns. Again by your side. Not having record increase in real wages today and the future looks poor under dem rule. I've asked you to list your team economic policies that have created what you think is a great economy. For some reason, you have failed to do so.

It was funnier when he wouldn't say it, let me cook Race!

Atta boy! Name call when the data doesn’t back up what you say. In your world the jobs never came back and people are looking for stale bread on the street.

In reality, the jobs have been coming back at a faster rate than Trump grew them. Every single economic indicator I can point out besides inflation is a positive. If Trump was in office, you’d be praising the economy right now based on those metrics. All of you should be richer, unless you went to the Sugar Bowl when you can’t afford it and then started to blame someone else! But, it doesn’t fit your narrative so you need to resort to political hackery. And when you get called out for it, you resort to name calling.

coming back[/b], after mostly Dimocrats took them away over a cold

And he wants people to think he's smart.

 

[pawz]

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Yup still no proof. Lots of excuses though. LOTS of excuses.

I’m sure the irony is lost on you.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

I mean…..theyre thanking him for reducing it to 3.5% because…..it IS 3.5%

After the dems made them unemployed in the first place...and as long as you don't count the 6 million long term unemployed(which the BLS does as we already went over).

You just don't like facts I suppose.

Fucking hondofs. Even Susan had the good sense to abandon ship. Even Brandon abandoned this talking point. Bidenomics is DOA. Let it go.

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So do you have the real unemployment number or what???

We also went over that, BLS has it as almost 6 million long term unemployed...which makes about 7% total unemployment...like I guessed at at the beginning from the participation rate. Maybe take up your problems with the BLS. Do you know who that is?

Are you actually learning disabled?

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

I knew it! Doog Bot ran away when asked what the real unemployment rate right now!!!!

Lol 7am victory lap. Jfc.

 

[HuskyBuck]

I knew it! Doog Bot ran away when asked what the real unemployment rate right now!!!!

Lol 7am victory lap. Jfc.

I’m just surprised you would make a claim then run away from explaining how you came to that conclusion. Well…not really.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

I knew it! Doog Bot ran away when asked what the real unemployment rate right now!!!!

Lol 7am victory lap. Jfc.

I’m just surprised you would make a claim then run away from explaining how you came to that conclusion. Well…not really.

Adhd confirmed. See above. I've answered the question and cited the BLS numerous times.

Kids that can't read good and stuff.

 

[HuskyBuck]

Refresh my memory…if the current unemployment rate isn’t 3.5 as reported by the BLS….whats the exact number?

 

[pawz]

Refresh my memory…if the current unemployment rate isn’t 3.5 as reported by the BLS….whats the exact number?

Following what been disclosed in this thread, probably 3.5 + 7.

What’s that, 10.5%?

 

[Bob_C]

Refresh my memory…if the current unemployment rate isn’t 3.5 as reported by the BLS….whats the exact number?

Following what been disclosed in this thread, probably 3.5 + 7.

What’s that, 10.5%?

No its just the 7%. But it's way higher when you include the illegals.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Labor participation rate is still down since January 2020 and not trending well. Couldn't find a chart on the Sugar Bowl participation rate which is the gold standard of course for the status of the economy.

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Same game as under Obama.

The unemployment rate is so low! If you don't count all the people who are long term unemployed.

So is Labor Participation up since January 2021? According to that chart it looks like its trending upwards just like it was doing under Trump.

Here's what Labor Participation rate did from when Trump was in office, to Janurary 2020 which was right before pandemic hit

Trump:
Jan 2017. - 62.8
Jan 2020 - 63.3

Biden:
Jan 2021 - 61.5
Now - 62.5

This is why I call you Oregon fans dumb as dirt. You can't intrepret a chart.

So about 3 million less participants in total. Which means true unemployment is actually somewhere around 7%.

Something Something dumb as dirt.

I did that math off the cuff in my head.

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Come get some.

Also, lulz, about that trend.

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Fucking love it when tug smooth brains want to wrastle economics with me.

5.7 million long term unemployed(which aren't counted in your 3.5% number).

As opposed to 2019 there being 1.2 million...
https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2020/a...rate-falls-to-its-lowest-level-since-1969.htm

Do I need to explain this to you further?

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Refresh my memory…if the current unemployment rate isn’t 3.5 as reported by the BLS….whats the exact number?

Following what been disclosed in this thread, probably 3.5 + 7.

What’s that, 10.5%?

No,

2023: 3.5% short term + 3.5% long term ~ 7% total

As opposed to

2019: 3.5% short term + 0.7% long term ~ 4.2% total

I'm rounding some significant numbers but doing this on my phone.

Happy to break it out more exactly from BLS when not at work.

 

[HuskyBuck]

Sep 2019 (Trumps Best Month)
US Population: 328 million
Labor Participation Rate: 63.1
UnEmployment Rate: 3.5%
Total Labor Force: 207 million
Unemployed: 7.2 million

Dec 2023 (Last Month)
Us Population: 340 Million
Labor Participation Rate: 62.5
Unemployment rate: 3.7
Total Labor Force: 212 million
Unemployed: 7.8 million

Ok boys.....tell me which number I need to adjust to make your math work. How in God's name did you get 7% or 10%? Arbitrarily?

Please tell me you guys arent the dipshits those 3 Oregon fans are.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Refresh my memory…if the current unemployment rate isn’t 3.5 as reported by the BLS….whats the exact number?

Following what been disclosed in this thread, probably 3.5 + 7.

What’s that, 10.5%?

No its just the 7%. But it's way higher when you include the illegals.

That would be extremely hard to nail down in all honesty, I would guess that aside from "sanctuary cities" the illegal immigration participation numbers would be higher per capita but would be lots of grey and black market employees.

Then again, most of them use fake broken ladder identities of the deceased to work so maybe they are counted. Who fucking knows.

It would be a fun regression worthy of doing my PhD in.

All that being said, Joe Biden's economy sucks ass. It's why even the Whitehouse gave up messaging on it. If it were doing well we wouldn't hear the end of it from the msm.

 

[HuskyBuck]

Refresh my memory…if the current unemployment rate isn’t 3.5 as reported by the BLS….whats the exact number?

Following what been disclosed in this thread, probably 3.5 + 7.

What’s that, 10.5%?

No its just the 7%. But it's way higher when you include the illegals.

That would be extremely hard to nail down in all honesty, I would guess that aside from "sanctuary cities" the illegal immigration participation numbers would be higher per capita but would be lots of grey and black market employees.

Then again, most of them use fake broken ladder identities of the deceased to work so maybe they are counted. Who fucking knows.

It would be a fun regression worthy of doing my PhD in.

All that being said, Joe Biden's economy sucks ass. It's why even the Whitehouse gave up messaging on it. If it were doing well we wouldn't hear the end of it from the msm.

Boy thats a lot of fantasy land hoops I need to jump through to believe. Its weird you guys can't pull actual data I can validate and verify with. Weird.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Sep 2019 (Trumps Best Month)
US Population: 328 million
Labor Participation Rate: 63.1
UnEmployment Rate: 3.5%
Total Labor Force: 207 million
Unemployed: 7.2 million

Dec 2023 (Last Month)
Us Population: 340 Million
Labor Participation Rate: 62.5
Unemployment rate: 3.7
Total Labor Force: 212 million
Unemployed: 7.8 million

Ok boys.....tell me which number I need to adjust to make your math work. How in God's name did you get 7% or 10%? Arbitrarily?

Please tell me you guys arent the dipshits those 3 Oregon fans are.

Lol you are this fucking dense. Go reread the thread however many times you need to and maybe put the Adderall down, or snort another line. Whichever.

Your clue should have been when Margaret @HHusky gave the talking point up and conceded.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Refresh my memory…if the current unemployment rate isn’t 3.5 as reported by the BLS….whats the exact number?

Following what been disclosed in this thread, probably 3.5 + 7.

What’s that, 10.5%?

No its just the 7%. But it's way higher when you include the illegals.

That would be extremely hard to nail down in all honesty, I would guess that aside from "sanctuary cities" the illegal immigration participation numbers would be higher per capita but would be lots of grey and black market employees.

Then again, most of them use fake broken ladder identities of the deceased to work so maybe they are counted. Who fucking knows.

It would be a fun regression worthy of doing my PhD in.

All that being said, Joe Biden's economy sucks ass. It's why even the Whitehouse gave up messaging on it. If it were doing well we wouldn't hear the end of it from the msm.

Boy thats a lot of fantasy land hoops I need to jump through to believe. Its weird you guys can't pull actual data I can validate and verify with. Weird.

I'm responding to Bob and just musing about the effect of illegals on employment numbers. Hth.

None of it has to do with the 5.7 million long term unemployed in Biden's roaring economy.

 

[HuskyBuck]

Refresh my memory…if the current unemployment rate isn’t 3.5 as reported by the BLS….whats the exact number?

Following what been disclosed in this thread, probably 3.5 + 7.

What’s that, 10.5%?

No its just the 7%. But it's way higher when you include the illegals.

That would be extremely hard to nail down in all honesty, I would guess that aside from "sanctuary cities" the illegal immigration participation numbers would be higher per capita but would be lots of grey and black market employees.

Then again, most of them use fake broken ladder identities of the deceased to work so maybe they are counted. Who fucking knows.

It would be a fun regression worthy of doing my PhD in.

All that being said, Joe Biden's economy sucks ass. It's why even the Whitehouse gave up messaging on it. If it were doing well we wouldn't hear the end of it from the msm.

Boy thats a lot of fantasy land hoops I need to jump through to believe. Its weird you guys can't pull actual data I can validate and verify with. Weird.

I'm responding to Bob and just musing about the effect of illegals on employment numbers. Hth.

None of it has to do with the 5.7 million long term unemployed in Biden's roaring economy.

Where is that....where did you get that 5.7 million number? Out your ass? Its amazing how you cant take us through your thought process when challenged. There's a lot of that on this board!!!

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Refresh my memory…if the current unemployment rate isn’t 3.5 as reported by the BLS….whats the exact number?

Following what been disclosed in this thread, probably 3.5 + 7.

What’s that, 10.5%?

No its just the 7%. But it's way higher when you include the illegals.

That would be extremely hard to nail down in all honesty, I would guess that aside from "sanctuary cities" the illegal immigration participation numbers would be higher per capita but would be lots of grey and black market employees.

Then again, most of them use fake broken ladder identities of the deceased to work so maybe they are counted. Who fucking knows.

It would be a fun regression worthy of doing my PhD in.

All that being said, Joe Biden's economy sucks ass. It's why even the Whitehouse gave up messaging on it. If it were doing well we wouldn't hear the end of it from the msm.

Boy thats a lot of fantasy land hoops I need to jump through to believe. Its weird you guys can't pull actual data I can validate and verify with. Weird.

I'm responding to Bob and just musing about the effect of illegals on employment numbers. Hth.

None of it has to do with the 5.7 million long term unemployed in Biden's roaring economy.

Where is that....where did you get that 5.7 million number? Out your ass? Its amazing how you cant take us through your thought process when challenged. There's a lot of that on this board!!!

From the BLS, how many times you want me to cite it and Quote myself from this thread.

Holy fucking reading comprehension batman.

 

[HuskyBuck]

Go ahead and cite it then! Lets see it!

 

[Bob_C]

Refresh my memory…if the current unemployment rate isn’t 3.5 as reported by the BLS….whats the exact number?

Following what been disclosed in this thread, probably 3.5 + 7.

What’s that, 10.5%?

No its just the 7%. But it's way higher when you include the illegals.

That would be extremely hard to nail down in all honesty, I would guess that aside from "sanctuary cities" the illegal immigration participation numbers would be higher per capita but would be lots of grey and black market employees.

Then again, most of them use fake broken ladder identities of the deceased to work so maybe they are counted. Who fucking knows.

It would be a fun regression worthy of doing my PhD in.

All that being said, Joe Biden's economy sucks ass. It's why even the Whitehouse gave up messaging on it. If it were doing well we wouldn't hear the end of it from the msm.

When illegal immigration is flat and low, I agree it's probably not super material. But when it spikes like it has, short term it has to be going up. It's also quite inflationary to have people sucking up services, spending money and producing nothing.