Redman and Yurosek/Taylor are all good prospects with good offer lists.
Jay'Veon Sunday, 2020 3* RB, Waco (Connally), TX (Committed)
- Thread starter Neighbor2972
- Start date
Redman and Yurosek/Taylor are all good prospects with good offer lists.
CallMeBigErn
New Fish
Watched his highlights again. Call me crazy, but if you squint hard enough, Sunday has a bit of Marshawn in him. He's got the lower half, he's got the power, he's got the balance, he's got the weird but effective suddenness, he's got the hand swipe. I like him.
Last edited:
CallMeBigErn
New Fish
It seems like y'all are coming around to Sunday right quick and ricky tick.
Now get Adams. Anything less would be uncivilized. Adams is Poland and UW coaches need to launch a blitzkrieg. Climb a tree outside his house if that's what it takes.
Now get Adams. Anything less would be uncivilized. Adams is Poland and UW coaches need to launch a blitzkrieg. Climb a tree outside his house if that's what it takes.
LaMichael_Corleone
New Fish
You're smoking crack if you don't think they "identified" 4 other kids ahead of this kid.
As per 247sports records:
Doug Martin 5'10" 188lbs 2* #97RB national #159 recruit in CA
Jay Ajayi 6'2" 200lbs 3* #42RB national #103 TX
Jay'Veon Sunday 5'10" 190lbs 3* #60RB national #112 TX
LIPO
Close Adams though.
Doug Martin 5'10" 188lbs 2* #97RB national #159 recruit in CA
Jay Ajayi 6'2" 200lbs 3* #42RB national #103 TX
Jay'Veon Sunday 5'10" 190lbs 3* #60RB national #112 TX
LIPO
Close Adams though.
CallMeBigErn
New Fish
And a first-team All-American.
Last edited:
They probably did, but Sunday still was offered very early. We don’t throw out offers and he’s had one for awhile.
Neighbor2972
Active poster
Sure, but this is clearly KB believing in his 'evaluations' and passing on guys everyone else thinks is better. Which, he's actually been pretty good at identifying guys early, he was pretty early on Cam Davis, Charbonnet, Dick Newton. And of course the guys at Boise.
The problem is if you think you're better than evaluating than everyone else, you get in to trouble because you start talking yourself into your 'diamonds in the rough' when you don't have to.
Tequilla
Active poster
So I would need to put some effort in to watch and compare and I’m not doing it now ...
But if you go back to the 2016 season and playing Bama, what Bo Scarborough was able to do against us, there’s something to be said about a bigger back that not only has some power, but the ability to do something with it.
Sunday isn’t a finished product ... probably dreaming if he gets to Marshawn levels. But there are some definite things there to work with. Being an elite player in Waco isn’t something to sneeze at ... it’s a very reasonable talent area.
But if you go back to the 2016 season and playing Bama, what Bo Scarborough was able to do against us, there’s something to be said about a bigger back that not only has some power, but the ability to do something with it.
Sunday isn’t a finished product ... probably dreaming if he gets to Marshawn levels. But there are some definite things there to work with. Being an elite player in Waco isn’t something to sneeze at ... it’s a very reasonable talent area.
LaMichael_Corleone
New Fish
Yes.
No one has or should have a problem with Pete or Boner having a higher grade of Sunday than they do of Ngata or Jalen John due to their track record. It's another thing entirely when we can't even get a sniff out of Kendall Milton and we only take Sunday's commitment immediately after Bijan's visit.
Once we start saying recruits have passed on us rather than coaches are passing on recruits, then we can truly start to grade a coach's recruiting prowess honestly & on the same page (not @Neighbor2972 because he's the mam and isn't a shithead like most Doogs & I get what he's saying here)
Open field running is funny but in limited space his balance, and vision are great. Kid makes good cuts and gets extra yards as a result. I like him as a guy who batters defensive on short yardage downs, and as a guy who pass blocks on definite passing downs.
ExtraChrisB
New Fish
Putting in a futures bet that Jayveon ends up a 2025 Jesse Callier 4+ star
I'm not comparing the two. Do you have parasites in your brain? Fucking Christ. I'm ridiculing the teenage angst of this place when we sign a 3* recruit. It's fucking fascinating. It's not abnormal to sign a 3* recruit. Even the elites sign 3* recruits.
Goodness... you're awful at this. Literally nobody here is upset because Sunday is a 3 star recruit. They're upset because they don't think he's very good. And because there are other, far more talented players with vastly superior offer sheets that Bhonerpha isn't willing to hustle for. This board loved, Rapp, Hampton, Otton, Fautanu, Tuputala, Curne -- all were three stars when they signed.
I happen to like his film. I see tools and potential. His JUNIOR film, no less. How many Pete recruits have blown up their senior HS season? It's a fucking lot. Pete knows talent and knows what he can develop, so this is absolutely a LIPO situation and slamming Sunday at this point in his career, as a junior in high school, is ignorant. It clearly bugs me when the first response to him possibly committing is "this is a terrible pickup". Is this place a parody? It's like The Onion is running a Husky forum.
The reasons I've seen for disliking him in here include one 100m track time and a supposedly awkward running style. Expert scouting right there.
LIPO.
Sorry... I have to come back to this. There's just so much retard in this poast, it's really quite staggering.
You're faulting Sunday's detractors for judging him based on his "JUNIOR" film, his fastest 100m track time, and the running style exhibited in the video of said 100m race.
Firstly, we only have JUNIOR film for these kids. Nobody has played their senior year yet. Literally every 2020 recruit in the country with an offer has gotten it based off their JUNIOR film. What the fuck do you think the coaches who scouted him were watching?
Secondly... why is a league sanctioned track meet a poor way to judge a kid's top end speed? I can't think of a more objective and practical way to do so.
Thirdly and finally, did you even watch the video of him running track? If you had you'd know that there is nothing "supposedly" awkward about his running style. Even the folks here who like the kid would most likely admit that there's something very ungainly about the way he runs.
My point is that our coaches evaluate on a completely different level than what us idiots see on Hudl. UW coaches evaluate on potential, work ethic, and ability to be developed arguably more than anybody. We idiots are completely ignorant to what the coaches are looking for because we only see a blip of what they see. From what I CAN see, this guy is strong and has stellar footwork and balance. His speed can be improved. "Ungainly" wasted motion can be improved. No one is ever going to mistake him for Ahmed. That's not his game, but there's lots of ways to skin a cat. Every program needs a bruiser type RB and he looks the part already as a junior in high school. He's 17 fucking years old and looks 21. He clearly has something the coaches like if we're going to Texas to get him. Furthermore, this guy has a senior season of high school and a redshirt season before he ever sees the field, at the very least. A lot can change in 3+ years. The dude has potential to be a Mack truck. We have Ahmed, Newton, Pleasant, McGrew, Davis (likely a fucking stud), and whoever our #1 RB recruit this class is to go through before Sunday even puts his cleats on. To say this is a terrible pickup is a flat out guess at this point. Of course I'd rather have Bijan, but I certainly don't know what's going on behind the scenes and none of you TBSers do either, despite what you think you might know. You can surmise that it's laziness all you want, but that's also just a wild ass guess. Sunday's commitment also doesn't mean we still aren't wholeheartedly pursuing Bijan. To say otherwise is yet another guess. Isn't he visiting? I highly doubt Sunday's commitment is going to push us out of the race for Bijan. You take Bijan any way you can.
I'd love Bijan, but I will be happy with Adams and Sunday. Would you be happy with Adams and Sunday? If we lose Adams and Sunday is our #1 RB in the class, then yes, I agree that this RB class is a massive failure. It needs to be Bijan/Adams and Sunday or all three.
I hate the hand-wringing over offers and commits when we have 1% of the information that the coaches do. Call me a Doog all you want, but that's just being rational. And remember, I'm banned from Dawgman. I hate this place, but I hate Dawgman 7x more.
Bijan was quoted several months ago as saying he’d hardly heard from our coaches. So it’s not pure conjecture... I actually have the kid’s own words to go off of.
We don’t have to throw out offers like Oregon does, but if we’re going to evaluate and vet kids like we’re the fucking CIA, then you better show some hustle to establish and maintain relationships once you’ve offered. Otherwise, what’s the fucking point of all the evaluation? This is one of my main problems with our recruiting. We only have a small pool of people who clear our NSA vetting process and are deemed worthy of an offer... yet we’re still getting consistently out hustled for those small number of kids.
I’d be ‘okay’ with any class that includes Adams... he is the key now. We’re not going to take 3 RBs and Bonerpop is never going to put in the work to get Bijan too... it appears he never really tried. I just think we’re at a point where we should be aiming higher than simply ‘okay’. If we have any aspiration to win a championship, we’re gonna have to figure that out.
Right now our recruiting lacks focus, urgency, hustle, or a coherent plan. It’s a fucking mess.
Also dude... you have the same ‘limited’ amount of information to go off as I do... so you’re positive assessment of this kid at this stage is just as much conjecture as mine. So how about you just offer your opinion, and shut the fuck up with the complaining about those who disagree with you.
Guntlove > BigErn and it isn't close.
I'm not comparing the two. Do you have parasites in your brain? Fucking Christ. I'm ridiculing the teenage angst of this place when we sign a 3* recruit. It's fucking fascinating. It's not abnormal to sign a 3* recruit. Even the elites sign 3* recruits.
Goodness... you're awful at this. Literally nobody here is upset because Sunday is a 3 star recruit. They're upset because they don't think he's very good. And because there are other, far more talented players with vastly superior offer sheets that Bhonerpha isn't willing to hustle for. This board loved, Rapp, Hampton, Otton, Fautanu, Tuputala, Curne -- all were three stars when they signed.
I happen to like his film. I see tools and potential. His JUNIOR film, no less. How many Pete recruits have blown up their senior HS season? It's a fucking lot. Pete knows talent and knows what he can develop, so this is absolutely a LIPO situation and slamming Sunday at this point in his career, as a junior in high school, is ignorant. It clearly bugs me when the first response to him possibly committing is "this is a terrible pickup". Is this place a parody? It's like The Onion is running a Husky forum.
The reasons I've seen for disliking him in here include one 100m track time and a supposedly awkward running style. Expert scouting right there.
LIPO.
Sorry... I have to come back to this. There's just so much retard in this poast, it's really quite staggering.
You're faulting Sunday's detractors for judging him based on his "JUNIOR" film, his fastest 100m track time, and the running style exhibited in the video of said 100m race.
Firstly, we only have JUNIOR film for these kids. Nobody has played their senior year yet. Literally every 2020 recruit in the country with an offer has gotten it based off their JUNIOR film. What the fuck do you think the coaches who scouted him were watching?
Secondly... why is a league sanctioned track meet a poor way to judge a kid's top end speed? I can't think of a more objective and practical way to do so.
Thirdly and finally, did you even watch the video of him running track? If you had you'd know that there is nothing "supposedly" awkward about his running style. Even the folks here who like the kid would most likely admit that there's something very ungainly about the way he runs.
My point is that our coaches evaluate on a completely different level than what us idiots see on Hudl. UW coaches evaluate on potential, work ethic, and ability to be developed arguably more than anybody. We idiots are completely ignorant to what the coaches are looking for because we only see a blip of what they see. From what I CAN see, this guy is strong and has stellar footwork and balance. His speed can be improved. "Ungainly" wasted motion can be improved. No one is ever going to mistake him for Ahmed. That's not his game, but there's lots of ways to skin a cat. Every program needs a bruiser type RB and he looks the part already as a junior in high school. He's 17 fucking years old and looks 21. He clearly has something the coaches like if we're going to Texas to get him. Furthermore, this guy has a senior season of high school and a redshirt season before he ever sees the field, at the very least. A lot can change in 3+ years. The dude has potential to be a Mack truck. We have Ahmed, Newton, Pleasant, McGrew, Davis (likely a fucking stud), and whoever our #1 RB recruit this class is to go through before Sunday even puts his cleats on. To say this is a terrible pickup is a flat out guess at this point. Of course I'd rather have Bijan, but I certainly don't know what's going on behind the scenes and none of you TBSers do either, despite what you think you might know. You can surmise that it's laziness all you want, but that's also just a wild ass guess. Sunday's commitment also doesn't mean we still aren't wholeheartedly pursuing Bijan. To say otherwise is yet another guess. Isn't he visiting? I highly doubt Sunday's commitment is going to push us out of the race for Bijan. You take Bijan any way you can.
I'd love Bijan, but I will be happy with Adams and Sunday. Would you be happy with Adams and Sunday? If we lose Adams and Sunday is our #1 RB in the class, then yes, I agree that this RB class is a massive failure. It needs to be Bijan/Adams and Sunday or all three.
I hate the hand-wringing over offers and commits when we have 1% of the information that the coaches do. Call me a Doog all you want, but that's just being rational. And remember, I'm banned from Dawgman. I hate this place, but I hate Dawgman 7x more.
Bijan was quoted several months ago as saying he’d hardly heard from our coaches. So it’s not pure conjecture... I actually have the kid’s own words to go off of.
We don’t have to throw out offers like Oregon does, but if we’re going to evaluate and vet kids like we’re the fucking CIA, then you better show some hustle to establish and maintain relationships once you’ve offered. Otherwise, what’s the fucking point of all the evaluation? This is one of my main problems with our recruiting. We only have a small pool of people who clear our NSA vetting process and are deemed worthy of an offer... yet we’re still getting consistently out hustled for those small number of kids.
I’d be ‘okay’ with any class that includes Adams... he is the key now. We’re not going to take 3 RBs and Bonerpop is never going to put in the work to get Bijan too... it appears he never really tried. I just think we’re at a point where we should be aiming higher than simply ‘okay’. If we have any aspiration to win a championship, we’re gonna have to figure that out.
Right now our recruiting lacks focus, urgency, hustle, or a coherent plan. It’s a fucking mess.
Also dude... you have the same ‘limited’ amount of information to go off as I do... so you’re positive assessment of this kid at this stage is just as much conjecture as mine. So how about you just offer your opinion, and shut the fuck up with the complaining about those who disagree with you.
Guntlove > BigErn and it isn't close.
We agree violently. Redman is nails.
This is actually a good point. One I hadn't thought of. Might have merit. Plus the kid is black. And named Jay'Veon. I'd rather have Bijon, but this isn't a totally terrible situation.
I think I am mostly bothered by Low Hanging Fruit Boner mailing it in again. Lazy as fuck. A koala has more energy.