Jay'Veon Sunday, 2020 3* RB, Waco (Connally), TX (Committed)

Ballz did you see Sunday running the 100 meters? They could work a miracle with his speed and he'd still be the slowest tailback on any upper tier team in the nation. I tried to be positive about him, but I saw enough. He's a 4.8- 5.0 40 guy right now. You really think that can be improved on enough?

I'm way more hopeful about Newton.
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I don't think Marshawn Lynch in high school would have looked good running the 100 meter dash either. And yes, with the right training he could easily improve his speed.
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Marshawn was a good high school runner. 10.94 100 meter compared to Sunday's personal best of 11.34.
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This has Marshawn at 11.12 in HS. Not sure what year though. I couldn't find any other numbers, so where are you getting that time from?
https://ca.milesplit.com/athletes/pro/4459732/stats

I also can't find any other times for Jay'I'm not sure why it is inconceivable for Sunday to shave .2 of a second next year. He took a second off his 200m time this year between meets 1 and 2.

I think this whole discussion is way overblown.
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Thank you sir.
 
For reference:

Bolt finishes 9.63. The man at the top of the screen (lane 2) finishes in 9.98.

How big of a difference is 3 1/2 tenths of a second?

Yes, 11.34 is quite different from 10.94.

Edit: fuck the Olympic Committee. Just click the link and watch in YouTube.
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Just so it’s clear, I am saying nothing about Sunday’s abilities nor am I saying he has to be fast to be good. Neither am I saying he can’t get faster because he obviously can.

I’m just showing what 0.4 seconds looks like since it seemed there was confusion as to how big a gap that is.
 
Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
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This. He has good acceleration, it's just the top speed that's lacking. And he makes up for it by being a bitch to tackle in the open field... he's really good at using is free arm to swat away arm tackles.

Watch the run at 2:47 in his junior year film. He has that unteachable natural vision and patience to wait for his blockers to set up the hole, and then bursts through it.
 
Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
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But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfo
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How about all three and Sam plays DB?
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Somehow Sam Adams might be a DB, but Sawyer Racanelli won't be a LB, interesting...
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Different recruits, different skill sets, different genetics. Possibly more position flexibility on Adams' end. Every situation is different and nuanced. No shit.
 
For reference:

Bolt finishes 9.63. The man at the top of the screen (lane 2) finishes in 9.98.

How big of a difference is 3 1/2 tenths of a second?

Yes, 11.34 is quite different from 10.94.

Edit: fuck the Olympic Committee. Just click the link and watch in YouTube.
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Just so it’s clear, I am saying nothing about Sunday’s abilities nor am I saying he has to be fast to be good. Neither am I saying he can’t get faster because he obviously can.

I’m just showing what 0.4 seconds looks like since it seemed there was confusion as to how big a gap that is.
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There's no confusion. Learn how to do math and physics. The gap of 0.4 seconds is larger the faster the times that are being run. Therefore, 0.4 seconds is a bigger gap for elite world class sprinters running sub-10 seconds than it is for high school kids running in the low 11 second range.
 
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Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
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But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfo
Click to expand...

How about all three and Sam plays DB?
Click to expand...

Somehow Sam Adams might be a DB, but Sawyer Racanelli won't be a LB, interesting...
Click to expand...

Different recruits, different skill sets, different genetics. Possibly more position flexibility on Adams' end. Every situation is different and nuanced. No shit.
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Exactly, they are different recruits. Most schools are offering Racanelli on defense, while basically all are offering Adams on defense. You got it backwards regardless of your personal belief on where their skill sets will take them.
 
Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
Click to expand...
But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfo
Click to expand...

How about all three and Sam plays DB?
Click to expand...

Somehow Sam Adams might be a DB, but Sawyer Racanelli won't be a LB, interesting...
Click to expand...

Different recruits, different skill sets, different genetics. Possibly more position flexibility on Adams' end. Every situation is different and nuanced. No shit.
Click to expand...

Exactly, they are different recruits. Most schools are offering Racanelli on defense, while basically all are offering Adams on defense[/s] offense. You got it backwards regardless of your personal belief on where their skill sets will take them.
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Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
Click to expand...
But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfo
Click to expand...

How about all three and Sam plays DB?
Click to expand...

Somehow Sam Adams might be a DB, but Sawyer Racanelli won't be a LB, interesting...
Click to expand...

Different recruits, different skill sets, different genetics. Possibly more position flexibility on Adams' end. Every situation is different and nuanced. No shit.
Click to expand...

Exactly, they are different recruits. Most schools are offering Racanelli on defense, while basically all are offering Adams on defense[/s] offense. You got it backwards regardless of your personal belief on where their skill sets will take them.
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Thank you for the save sir
 
Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
Click to expand...
But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfo
Click to expand...

How about all three and Sam plays DB?
Click to expand...

Somehow Sam Adams might be a DB, but Sawyer Racanelli won't be a LB, interesting...
Click to expand...

Different recruits, different skill sets, different genetics. Possibly more position flexibility on Adams' end. Every situation is different and nuanced. No shit.
Click to expand...

Exactly, they are different recruits. Most schools are offering Racanelli on defense, while basically all are offering Adams on defense. You got it backwards regardless of your personal belief on where their skill sets will take them.
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Who cares. Everybody was recruiting Asa Turner as a linebacker and UW was the only one recruiting him to play DB. I'm good at talent evaluations. UW is good at talent evaluations. So we usually agree where a kid fits best and where his highest potential is. Adams can play RB just fine and be a great college RB. But if he wants to have a long lasting career in the NFL and limit the damage to his body and brain, he should play DB.
 
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Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
Click to expand...
But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfo
Click to expand...

How about all three and Sam plays DB?
Click to expand...

Somehow Sam Adams might be a DB, but Sawyer Racanelli won't be a LB, interesting...
Click to expand...

Different recruits, different skill sets, different genetics. Possibly more position flexibility on Adams' end. Every situation is different and nuanced. No shit.
Click to expand...

Exactly, they are different recruits. Most schools are offering Racanelli on defense, while basically all are offering Adams on defense. You got it backwards regardless of your personal belief on where their skill sets will take them.
Click to expand...

Who cares. Everybody was recruiting Asa Turner as a linebacker and UW was the only one recruiting him to play DB. I'm good at talent evaluations. UW is good at talent evaluations. So we usually agree where a kid fits best and where his highest potential is. Adams can play RB just fine and be a great college RB. But if he wants to have a long lasting career in the NFL and limit the damage to his body and brain, he should play DB.
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Asa wanted to play DB, Adams has never suggested that he does as well.
 
Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
Click to expand...
But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfo
Click to expand...

How about all three and Sam plays DB?
Click to expand...

Somehow Sam Adams might be a DB, but Sawyer Racanelli won't be a LB, interesting...
Click to expand...

Different recruits, different skill sets, different genetics. Possibly more position flexibility on Adams' end. Every situation is different and nuanced. No shit.
Click to expand...

Exactly, they are different recruits. Most schools are offering Racanelli on defense, while basically all are offering Adams on defense. You got it backwards regardless of your personal belief on where their skill sets will take them.
Click to expand...

Who cares. Everybody was recruiting Asa Turner as a linebacker and UW was the only one recruiting him to play DB. I'm good at talent evaluations. UW is good at talent evaluations. So we usually agree where a kid fits best and where his highest potential is. Adams can play RB just fine and be a great college RB. But if he wants to have a long lasting career in the NFL and limit the damage to his body and brain, he should play DB.
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Asa wanted to play DB, Adams has never suggested that he does as well.
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In his original interview post UW offer he said UW liked him as an athlete and he didn't care which side of the ball he plays on because he enjoys them both equally. Sure, if UW can only get Adams and one of Sunday or Robinson then Adams is probably a RB for UW. But if they can get all three which would mean more talent overall, then he probably gets bumped to DB which would be helpful because if we don't get Ransom we're fucked at safety in this class again unless we get Adams as a SS where he'd fit in perfectly.
 
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Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
Click to expand...
But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfo
Click to expand...

How about all three and Sam plays DB?
Click to expand...

Somehow Sam Adams might be a DB, but Sawyer Racanelli won't be a LB, interesting...
Click to expand...

Different recruits, different skill sets, different genetics. Possibly more position flexibility on Adams' end. Every situation is different and nuanced. No shit.
Click to expand...

Exactly, they are different recruits. Most schools are offering Racanelli on defense, while basically all are offering Adams on defense. You got it backwards regardless of your personal belief on where their skill sets will take them.
Click to expand...

Who cares. Everybody was recruiting Asa Turner as a linebacker and UW was the only one recruiting him to play DB. I'm good at talent evaluations. UW is good at talent evaluations. So we usually agree where a kid fits best and where his highest potential is. Adams can play RB just fine and be a great college RB. But if he wants to have a long lasting career in the NFL and limit the damage to his body and brain, he should play DB.
Click to expand...

Asa wanted to play DB, Adams has never suggested that he does as well.
Click to expand...

In his original interview post UW offer he said UW liked him as an athlete and he didn't care which side of the ball he plays on because he enjoys them both equally. Sure, if UW can only get Adams and one of Sunday or Robinson then Adams is probably a RB for UW. But if they can get all three which would mean more talent overall, then he probably gets bumped to DB which would be helpful because if we don't get Ransom we're fucked at safety in this class again unless we get Adams as a SS where he'd fit in perfectly.
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Will Harris isn’t even following him, he’s not going to be a DB.
 
Stop waste your time arguing over this kids track speed. If you actually saw him run it's pretty clear he has no experience or training with track. If he ever learned to run with good form and use starting blocks correctly you wouldn't be talking about this. But learning that shits not going to make him a better football player.
 
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