It's Turner's Turn to Take Over at Safety and Not Let Go

[RoadDawg55]

I grew up bloodying my nose to wrestle down my older brother and his friends. You have to be a bit of a masochist.

On the other hand, a pussy is a pussy. Hope I’m wrong

An older brother is one of the
great motivators and teachers of young boys especially when it comes to sports. If the older brother is an asshole like mine was then so much the better. Black eyes, bloody noses and cut lips were old hat for me well by the time i was 6.

You can't play football if you aren't willing to do things you know are going to hurt. Turner clearly doesn't have that mentality. I doubt that changes.

You can get away with one weak tackler art Corner if he's a great cover guy. It doesn't work at safety. Jimmy Lake once had a quote and he's right, any really long run is the safeties fault because when shit fucks up in the front 7, they are the last line of defense. We used to almost never give up 25+ yard runs when Budda, Rapp, McIntosh were at safety. Now, Rapp is an absolutely elite tackler so to compare every safety to him is unfair because his tackling is his best skill in football. Budda was a very good tackler too only slightly below. Budda was fucking amazing against all the bubble screen bullshit because nobody was everable to block him in space and it's exactly the same in the NFL.

 

[DerekJohnson]

I'll bet he looks much better this year than last. I'm not saying Pac-12 POTY, but I'm saying he'll play better and be adequate, because of the coaching change. Just a hunch. He also needs to stop isolating from teammates and become one of the boys.

Honestly, I wish the players made his life fucking miserable for the pussy shit he has done on the field. It's not respectable. It's the number one thing in football. Play with attitude and effort. It's horrible for the whole team when you have a guy doing what he did. I'm mad thinking about it right now.

Agreed it has been bad. I just have a hunch that someone is going to get through to him.

But I'm also the guy that once made the preseason prediction that Dashon Goldson would be Pac-10 Defensive POTY

Dashon goldson was actually really good. He was just on a shit team. He was a top level nfl safety for a stretch too. Shame he played during the dark years.

I know he was good. But I publicly said he would win Pac-10 Defensive POTY

 

[DerekJohnson]

I'll bet he looks much better this year than last. I'm not saying Pac-12 POTY, but I'm saying he'll play better and be adequate, because of the coaching change. Just a hunch. He also needs to stop isolating from teammates and become one of the boys.

Honestly, I wish the players made his life fucking miserable for the pussy shit he has done on the field. It's not respectable. It's the number one thing in football. Play with attitude and effort. It's horrible for the whole team when you have a guy doing what he did. I'm mad thinking about it right now.

Agreed it has been bad. I just have a hunch that someone is going to get through to him.

But I'm also the guy that once made the preseason prediction that Dashon Goldson would be Pac-10 Defensive POTY

Dashon goldson was actually really good. He was just on a shit team. He was a top level nfl safety for a stretch too. Shame he played during the dark years.

Three of the four members of the secondary were NFL players. Goldson was the only one that actually had a good and lasting career but CJ Wallace and Roy Lewis also played in the league. Roy Lewis actually played five years. He probably gets the pension.

I had a couple phone conversations with CJ during his senior season, and he was not happy how Willingham would publicly say his team didn't have enough talent. CJ said to me "Just look at our defensive backfield and how good we could be!"

 

[LawDawg1]

I'll bet he looks much better this year than last. I'm not saying Pac-12 POTY, but I'm saying he'll play better and be adequate, because of the coaching change. Just a hunch. He also needs to stop isolating from teammates and become one of the boys.

Honestly, I wish the players made his life fucking miserable for the pussy shit he has done on the field. It's not respectable. It's the number one thing in football. Play with attitude and effort. It's horrible for the whole team when you have a guy doing what he did. I'm mad thinking about it right now.

Agreed it has been bad. I just have a hunch that someone is going to get through to him.

But I'm also the guy that once made the preseason prediction that Dashon Goldson would be Pac-10 Defensive POTY

Dashon goldson was actually really good. He was just on a shit team. He was a top level nfl safety for a stretch too. Shame he played during the dark years.

Three of the four members of the secondary were NFL players. Goldson was the only one that actually had a good and lasting career but CJ Wallace and Roy Lewis also played in the league. Roy Lewis actually played five years. He probably gets the pension.

I had a couple phone conversations with CJ during his senior season, and he was not happy how Willingham would publicly say his team didn't have enough talent. CJ said to me "Just look at our defensive backfield and how good we could be!"

What make you hold on to this information for so long? Some might say that was part of the problem. I didn’t say you were part of the problem, don’t twist. But some might.

 

[DerekJohnson]

I'll bet he looks much better this year than last. I'm not saying Pac-12 POTY, but I'm saying he'll play better and be adequate, because of the coaching change. Just a hunch. He also needs to stop isolating from teammates and become one of the boys.

Honestly, I wish the players made his life fucking miserable for the pussy shit he has done on the field. It's not respectable. It's the number one thing in football. Play with attitude and effort. It's horrible for the whole team when you have a guy doing what he did. I'm mad thinking about it right now.

Agreed it has been bad. I just have a hunch that someone is going to get through to him.

But I'm also the guy that once made the preseason prediction that Dashon Goldson would be Pac-10 Defensive POTY

Dashon goldson was actually really good. He was just on a shit team. He was a top level nfl safety for a stretch too. Shame he played during the dark years.

Three of the four members of the secondary were NFL players. Goldson was the only one that actually had a good and lasting career but CJ Wallace and Roy Lewis also played in the league. Roy Lewis actually played five years. He probably gets the pension.

I had a couple phone conversations with CJ during his senior season, and he was not happy how Willingham would publicly say his team didn't have enough talent. CJ said to me "Just look at our defensive backfield and how good we could be!"

What make you hold on to this information for so long? Some might say that was part of the problem. I didn’t say you were part of the problem, don’t twist. But some might.

You're joking right?

CJ is heavily quoted in my book on Willingham.

 

[LawDawg1]

I'll bet he looks much better this year than last. I'm not saying Pac-12 POTY, but I'm saying he'll play better and be adequate, because of the coaching change. Just a hunch. He also needs to stop isolating from teammates and become one of the boys.

Honestly, I wish the players made his life fucking miserable for the pussy shit he has done on the field. It's not respectable. It's the number one thing in football. Play with attitude and effort. It's horrible for the whole team when you have a guy doing what he did. I'm mad thinking about it right now.

Agreed it has been bad. I just have a hunch that someone is going to get through to him.

But I'm also the guy that once made the preseason prediction that Dashon Goldson would be Pac-10 Defensive POTY

Dashon goldson was actually really good. He was just on a shit team. He was a top level nfl safety for a stretch too. Shame he played during the dark years.

Three of the four members of the secondary were NFL players. Goldson was the only one that actually had a good and lasting career but CJ Wallace and Roy Lewis also played in the league. Roy Lewis actually played five years. He probably gets the pension.

I had a couple phone conversations with CJ during his senior season, and he was not happy how Willingham would publicly say his team didn't have enough talent. CJ said to me "Just look at our defensive backfield and how good we could be!"

What make you hold on to this information for so long? Some might say that was part of the problem. I didn’t say you were part of the problem, don’t twist. But some might.

You're joking right?

CJ is heavily quoted in my book on Willingham.

Of course,lol

 

[DerekJohnson]

I'll bet he looks much better this year than last. I'm not saying Pac-12 POTY, but I'm saying he'll play better and be adequate, because of the coaching change. Just a hunch. He also needs to stop isolating from teammates and become one of the boys.

Honestly, I wish the players made his life fucking miserable for the pussy shit he has done on the field. It's not respectable. It's the number one thing in football. Play with attitude and effort. It's horrible for the whole team when you have a guy doing what he did. I'm mad thinking about it right now.

Agreed it has been bad. I just have a hunch that someone is going to get through to him.

But I'm also the guy that once made the preseason prediction that Dashon Goldson would be Pac-10 Defensive POTY

Dashon goldson was actually really good. He was just on a shit team. He was a top level nfl safety for a stretch too. Shame he played during the dark years.

Three of the four members of the secondary were NFL players. Goldson was the only one that actually had a good and lasting career but CJ Wallace and Roy Lewis also played in the league. Roy Lewis actually played five years. He probably gets the pension.

I had a couple phone conversations with CJ during his senior season, and he was not happy how Willingham would publicly say his team didn't have enough talent. CJ said to me "Just look at our defensive backfield and how good we could be!"

What make you hold on to this information for so long? Some might say that was part of the problem. I didn’t say you were part of the problem, don’t twist. But some might.

You're joking right?

CJ is heavily quoted in my book on Willingham.

Of course,lol

You were starting to worry me there

 

[DerekJohnson]

15 years after the fact....

Derek Johnson: "If you guys only knew the damage Willingham did..."

 

[AtomicDawg]

I'll bet he looks much better this year than last. I'm not saying Pac-12 POTY, but I'm saying he'll play better and be adequate, because of the coaching change. Just a hunch. He also needs to stop isolating from teammates and become one of the boys.

Honestly, I wish the players made his life fucking miserable for the pussy shit he has done on the field. It's not respectable. It's the number one thing in football. Play with attitude and effort. It's horrible for the whole team when you have a guy doing what he did. I'm mad thinking about it right now.

Agreed it has been bad. I just have a hunch that someone is going to get through to him.

But I'm also the guy that once made the preseason prediction that Dashon Goldson would be Pac-10 Defensive POTY

Dashon goldson was actually really good. He was just on a shit team. He was a top level nfl safety for a stretch too. Shame he played during the dark years.

I know he was good. But I publicly said he would win Pac-10 Defensive POTY

My point was that was not a bad prediction. You were self deprecating but you have no idea how high you can fly.