Throbber and Sun Tzu sitting in a tree ...
“Build your opponent a golden bridge to retreat across.”
― Sun Tzu
Is there an official RUS @ UKR gamethread?
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Throbber and Sun Tzu sitting in a tree ...
“Build your opponent a golden bridge to retreat across.”
― Sun Tzu
rodmansrage
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https://newsmax.com/newsfront/zelenskyy-ukraine-support-us/2022/03/03/id/1059500/
Uh oh. I thought Joe saved the Ukraine and Trump WITH HELD aid
http:/https://newsmax.com/newsfront/zelenskyy-ukraine-support-us/2022/03/03/id/1059500//
Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says it is a "pity" U.S. support for his nation began after the Russian invasion.
Zelenskyy made the comments when asked by Fox News at a Thursday press conference about his conversations with President Joe Biden and whether he believed overall support from the U.S. took too long.
"It’s a pity it began after the beginning of this war, but we have it," he said.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-admin-approves-sale-anti-tank-weapons-ukraine/story?id=65989898
The new package will include Javelin anti-tank weapons, with one U.S. official saying it includes 150 missiles and two launchers, which was first reported by Bloomberg News.
The sale of Javelins is not part of the nearly $400 million of military assistance that the White House had ordered the State Department and Pentagon to withhold a week before Trump's call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy. That aid, which has since been released[/b], included assistance for maritime security, special operations units, secure communications and light weapons like sniper rifles and rocket-propelled grenade launchers.
The Trump administration first approved the sale of Javelins to Ukraine in December 2017 -- a step that former President Barack Obama never took and that Trump allies have pointed to as a sign of Trump's toughness on Russia. Ukraine has been fighting Russian-armed and led separatists in its eastern provinces since 2014, shortly after Russia illegally occupied and annexed Crimea, in a war that has claimed approximately 13,000 lives and displaced 1.5 million people, according to the Ukrainian government.
That first sale, which was completed in March 2018, included 210 Javelin missiles and 37 launch units and was intended to "help Ukraine build its long-term defense capacity to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity in order to meet its national defense requirements," according to the Defense Security Cooperation Agency.
But Javelins were discussed on Trump and Zelenskiy's call on July 25, which has prompted an impeachment inquiry.
"We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps, specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes," Zelenskiy told Trump, according to a memo of the call released by the White House on Sept. 25.
"I would like you to do us a favor though," Trump responded, asking Zelenskiy to work with his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani to investigate Crowdstrike -- an apparent reference to what has repeatedly been described as a debunked conspiracy around the 2016 presidential election that posits that the Democratic National Convention's server, which was hacked by Russian intelligence, is missing and in Ukraine.
Of all the things to impeach Trump for......
Uh oh. I thought Joe saved the Ukraine and Trump WITH HELD aid
http:/https://newsmax.com/newsfront/zelenskyy-ukraine-support-us/2022/03/03/id/1059500//
Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says it is a "pity" U.S. support for his nation began after the Russian invasion.
Zelenskyy made the comments when asked by Fox News at a Thursday press conference about his conversations with President Joe Biden and whether he believed overall support from the U.S. took too long.
"It’s a pity it began after the beginning of this war, but we have it," he said.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-admin-approves-sale-anti-tank-weapons-ukraine/story?id=65989898
The new package will include Javelin anti-tank weapons, with one U.S. official saying it includes 150 missiles and two launchers, which was first reported by Bloomberg News.
The sale of Javelins is not part of the nearly $400 million of military assistance that the White House had ordered the State Department and Pentagon to withhold a week before Trump's call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy. That aid, which has since been released[/b], included assistance for maritime security, special operations units, secure communications and light weapons like sniper rifles and rocket-propelled grenade launchers.
The Trump administration first approved the sale of Javelins to Ukraine in December 2017 -- a step that former President Barack Obama never took and that Trump allies have pointed to as a sign of Trump's toughness on Russia. Ukraine has been fighting Russian-armed and led separatists in its eastern provinces since 2014, shortly after Russia illegally occupied and annexed Crimea, in a war that has claimed approximately 13,000 lives and displaced 1.5 million people, according to the Ukrainian government.
That first sale, which was completed in March 2018, included 210 Javelin missiles and 37 launch units and was intended to "help Ukraine build its long-term defense capacity to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity in order to meet its national defense requirements," according to the Defense Security Cooperation Agency.
But Javelins were discussed on Trump and Zelenskiy's call on July 25, which has prompted an impeachment inquiry.
"We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps, specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes," Zelenskiy told Trump, according to a memo of the call released by the White House on Sept. 25.
"I would like you to do us a favor though," Trump responded, asking Zelenskiy to work with his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani to investigate Crowdstrike -- an apparent reference to what has repeatedly been described as a debunked conspiracy around the 2016 presidential election that posits that the Democratic National Convention's server, which was hacked by Russian intelligence, is missing and in Ukraine.
Of all the things to impeach Trump for......
DoogieMcDoogerson
Active poster
THIS is the main problem right now: "Cho Bai Den needs to STFU and give Putin an out." Biden, however needs this war - or so he thinks.
With all that said Jen Psaki had some very interesting things to say: (when pressured)
https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1499454698855796743
Especially the last bit about ending imports of russian oil to the US -- two things it could be:
1) The administration thinks ending our imports of oil from Russia would escalate things to a level of danger that is not acceptable (we would lead other countries to do the same) and this might be too strong a sanction and illicit a response from Russia that we'd prefer not happen
or
2) They know how this is going to end and don't need to take this step.
or
3) They really don't know what the F they are doing.
It's probably #1, possibly #2.
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rodmansrage
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https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1499470935820279809?s=20&t=Qyw0D10u7jpokUXZsIGRDw
yeah its the onion but probably could play in real life.
yeah its the onion but probably could play in real life.
rodmansrage
Active poster
https://twitter.com/BalmforthTom/status/1499471777096998919?s=20&t=PkEnXw4H13od42SkWuG06Q
vlad got em right where he want em.
vlad got em right where he want em.
DoogieMcDoogerson
Active poster
So apparently the Russians have been shelling a nuclear reactor from all sides and have started a fire in 1 of the 6 reactors. It was offline but has fuel inside. Ukrainian firefights tried to go in to put it out but were shot at. Russia continues to shell. Sick, sick, shit right here.
Theory - Russia blames it on Ukrainian sabotage, an attempt to create fallout over Russia. Russia responds with Nukes.
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1499559997717590040
Theory - Russia blames it on Ukrainian sabotage, an attempt to create fallout over Russia. Russia responds with Nukes.
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1499559997717590040
RatherBeBrewing
New Fish
I was shocked to see a friend of mine on CNN yesterday. He’s not super important, but his English is perfect and he has some pull in Silicon Valley so I’m assuming that’s how/why he was being interviewed. You could see his frustration at being asked the wrong questions which appears to be a pattern with how this whole war is being reported. The guy interviewing him even messed up which former Ukrainian president’s cabinet his dad was in. I’ll forgive that one due to the difficulty of Slavic names and the similarity of the names.
Anyway, I wish the media good luck in the upcoming several days. The biggest nuclear power plant in Europe is being shelled and outlying buildings are burning. This monster has six reactors, is much newer than Chernobyl and is bigger than the five biggest plants in the US combined.
Why am I wishing the media luck? Good luck pronouncing Zaporizhzhia. Also, Uranium. And if that wasn’t enough that’s also the home of a hydroelectric dam that controls the flow of the Dnipro, it’s 200 feet tall and holds back 9 × 10^12 gallons of water with a 160 sq mi reservoir. The last time it was blown up, by Nazis in 1941, it killed 20k-100k people. The city has close to a million people.
Anyway, I wish the media good luck in the upcoming several days. The biggest nuclear power plant in Europe is being shelled and outlying buildings are burning. This monster has six reactors, is much newer than Chernobyl and is bigger than the five biggest plants in the US combined.
Why am I wishing the media luck? Good luck pronouncing Zaporizhzhia. Also, Uranium. And if that wasn’t enough that’s also the home of a hydroelectric dam that controls the flow of the Dnipro, it’s 200 feet tall and holds back 9 × 10^12 gallons of water with a 160 sq mi reservoir. The last time it was blown up, by Nazis in 1941, it killed 20k-100k people. The city has close to a million people.
GrundleStiltzkin
New Fish
Ukraine isn't part of NATO POTD.
Just saw an article that Zelinsky ordered Ukraine hams not to transmit any news to the world at the start of this whole mess. Makes me wonder why? Why would he not want what's going on broadcast to the world? Unless it's not what the Zelinsky government is putting out.....
It's very strange.
It's very strange.
RatherBeBrewing
New Fish
Very strange indeed! Shutting down civilian radio operators during a war? What are they hiding?
Other than the internet, social media, thousands of journalists with cameras from all over the world, and phones - how will any news get out?
Serious answer that is not needed: go sit by any airport, try to transmit some radio signals and let me know how that goes for you. If someone’s lame hobby is radio you would think they are aware of military use of RF for things like weapons guidance systems and a million other things.
Urainians live in the film room
GrundleStiltzkin
New Fish
Like another general on the battlefield