Is that it for the Pac-12?

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Tailgater

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As a traditionalist, I'm not a big fan of the collegiate post season proliferation and to me, most if not all the prestigious bowl games are still played on New Years Day or a few days after. With the Sugar, Cotton, Orange, and BCS championship yet to be played, the Pac-12's bowl season was done, kaput, with Stanford's heroic defeat yesterday at the Granddaddy. Just one defeat in a big bowl game, is that it?

Where is the respect for a Pac-12 that many experts here on the Internet and in the West Coast mainstream media have recently proclaimed to be the second best football conference behind the SEC..... at least that's what I've been hearing? Second best in football playing athletes, coaching, and I'm sure a few other meaningless things, but not where it truly counts in invitations to NYD or post NYD big bowl games.

Per my count, invitations to the six traditionally biggest bowls (Rose, Fiesta, Sugar, Cotton, Orange, and BCS) were awarded for the 2013 season by conference as follows: SEC-3; Big12-3; ACC-2; BigTen-2; Pac12-1; AAC-1. Of the five major conferences, the Pac-12 was last in big bowl invitations with just the one and I wonder if Stanford would have been invited had not our conference been locked into the Rose Bowl by contract. Where were 10-win Oregon and ASU when big bowl invitations were sent out? Sucking hind tit behind Oklahoma and Oklahoma State, the two football powers the Pac-12 expansion tried to annex and got Colorado and Utah instead.

The BCS is over after this post-season and can't be used as an excuse for the Pac-12 struggling to keep-up with the four other major conferences when comes time each year for invitations to the big-money bowls. The 4-school NCAA championship playoff will affect the bowl schedule somehow, but the Pac-12 shouldn't count on having a member program finishing the regular season undefeated. That will in future be the only way our conference could edge-out SEC/Big-12/ACC schools plus Notre Dame to be one of the select four.

 
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Next year, the Playoffs Committee will hand-select the Access Bowls (Rose, Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, Cotton, Peach). That means that 12 teams will go to Dec31/Jan1 bowls against good opponents. If we had the Playoffs this year, Oregon would've been picked and maybe ASSU. If that were the case, the Pac-12 would have 3 teams in major bowls, UCLA would've bumped to the Alamo, USC to the Holiday, us to the Sun, etc.

We're fortunate moving forward with the new Playoffs, not because it means we're finally having some fucking playoffs but because it opens 2 other bowls to the Pac-12 that were previously closed before (Cotton was SEC 3 vs. Big 12 2, Peach was SEC 4 vs. ACC 2). It also means the Fiesta will probably be taking a Pac-12 team every year so long as they finish in the Top 15.
 
LIFPO

Next year, the Playoffs Committee will hand-select the Access Bowls (Rose, Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, Cotton, Peach). That means that 12 teams will go to Dec31/Jan1 bowls against good opponents. If we had the Playoffs this year, Oregon would've been picked and maybe ASSU. If that were the case, the Pac-12 would have 3 teams in major bowls, UCLA would've bumped to the Alamo, USC to the Holiday, us to the Sun, etc.

We're fortunate moving forward with the new Playoffs, not because it means we're finally having some fucking playoffs but because it opens 2 other bowls to the Pac-12 that were previously closed before (Cotton was SEC 3 vs. Big 12 2, Peach was SEC 4 vs. ACC 2). It also means the Fiesta will probably be taking a Pac-12 team every year so long as they finish in the Top 15.
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Sorry, but your explanation of playoff paradise seems to imply that neither the conferences nor bowl game sponsors will have any influence on which teams will be selected for the playoff. We still don't know what guidelines if any the new selection committee will apply that might be different than those so ingloriously used by the BCS. And yet given the long track record of the collegiate football postseason, you're suggesting that it must be fair and above board? Good luck with that, but it ain't going to happen.

 
Sorry, but your explanation of playoff paradise seems to imply that neither the conferences nor bowl game sponsors will have any influence on which teams will be selected for the playoff. We still don't know what guidelines if any the new selection committee will apply that might be different than those so ingloriously used by the BCS. And yet given the long track record of the collegiate football postseason, you're suggesting that it must be fair and above board? Good luck with that, but it ain't going to happen.
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The conferences are all represented on the playoff selection committee with an AD (for example, the Pac-12 has Pat HadenOHGODNO), so they'll have their influence. The bowls will have their say, too, especially since the Rose will still be Pac12/Big10, the Sugar will be SEC/Big12 and the Orange will be ACC/SEC #2 or Big10 #2 or ND unless one of those teams goes to a Semi-Final Bowl. Fiesta, Cotton and Peach will take whatever is left of the conference champs, the highest non-AQ team (for this season, that'd be UCF) and 6 at-larges from "the Top 15".

I never said the system would be fair or broad but there are 11 bowl slots for 5 conferences. Just looking at it from a numbers perspective, one conference will have at least 3 every year and that'll probably be the limit side the other conferences would advocate against it (unless they're all in the top 7 or something ridiculous).

Either way, with 11 slots for AQ teams, there's virtually no fucking way the Pac-12 puts 1 team into the Access Bowl every year. It'll be 2 with a chance for 3 if we're lucky.
 
No fucking way? There's way and always will be. I just Binged "2015 College Football Playoff" and according to it's official website, the fiction you've posted in this thread is enough to prove that you have a long way to go to trump my cynicism with your bullshit.
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The California and Arizona schools alumni/fans don't really travel outside of California/Arizona for bowel games, and I'm pretty sure the TV ratings for games involving said schools suck too (could be wrong). That's the major problem.
 
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Oh a side note.

If it is going to be considered a "big boy bowl" then it should be changed back to the Peach Bowl.

Fuck the Chic Fil A Bowl ...
 
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