Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?

[OZONE]

"Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?"

Not pure socialism, no; it has the same flaws as pure capitalism. But some kind of free market socialism, or democratic socialism, yes I think it is where we are headed, but it will be a couple of generations away still.

You're speaking of Utopia. The only way Utopia works is if everybody gets what they need.

The whole monkey in that wrench is that Human nature is to take what they want. Damn their neighbors needs. And Especially if there's not enough to go around. Not everyone is that way. But more are than aren't. Especially if they haven't had it before. There are many civilizations still that aren't that way. But they are the ones that are still self sufficient.

This is why I think free market socialism is the future, not pure socialism.

There is still latitude for greater reward for hard work, you just wouldn't see the wealth gaps you see in the US... it would be much more like the wealth gaps you see in Sweden or Denmark.

"free market socialism" is this what they're calling fascism these days?

No. Fascism is when the government gives large corporations monopolies in their sectors. That would be the opposite of free market.

 

[OZONE]

"Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?"

Not pure socialism, no; it has the same flaws as pure capitalism. But some kind of free market socialism, or democratic socialism, yes I think it is where we are headed, but it will be a couple of generations away still.

Free market socialism? What the fuck is that?

The markets are free, but more of the means of production, such as land, are owned by the society. Individuals or companies can rent it as part of their business plan.

For example, instead of Weyerhaeuser owning millions of acres of land, the land would be owned by the people, and Weyerhaeuser would pay to harvest trees from it.

Gets tricker when you are talking about intellectual capital (rather than land), and of course the various types of capital in between. Progressive economists have a model for it. Probably shorter periods for copyrights and patents.

Of course, a healthy tax structure is in place.

 

[2001400ex]

"Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?"

Not pure socialism, no; it has the same flaws as pure capitalism. But some kind of free market socialism, or democratic socialism, yes I think it is where we are headed, but it will be a couple of generations away still.

Free market socialism? What the fuck is that?

The markets are free, but more of the means of production, such as land, are owned by the society. Individuals or companies can rent it as part of their business plan.

For example, instead of Weyerhaeuser owning millions of acres of land, the land would be owned by the people, and Weyerhaeuser would pay to harvest trees from it.

Gets tricker when you are talking about intellectual capital (rather than land), and of course the various types of capital in between. Progressive economists have a model for it. Probably shorter periods for copyrights and patents.

Of course, a healthy tax structure is in place.

I'm pretty sure that just went over everyone's head on this bored.

 

[RaceBannon]

"Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?"

Not pure socialism, no; it has the same flaws as pure capitalism. But some kind of free market socialism, or democratic socialism, yes I think it is where we are headed, but it will be a couple of generations away still.

Free market socialism? What the fuck is that?

The markets are free, but more of the means of production, such as land, are owned by the society. Individuals or companies can rent it as part of their business plan.

For example, instead of Weyerhaeuser owning millions of acres of land, the land would be owned by the people, and Weyerhaeuser would pay to harvest trees from it.

Gets tricker when you are talking about intellectual capital (rather than land), and of course the various types of capital in between. Progressive economists have a model for it. Probably shorter periods for copyrights and patents.

Of course, a healthy tax structure is in place.

I'm pretty sure that just went over everyone's head on this bored.

Pretty sure the bored rolled their eyes at the idiot

 

[PurpleReign]

A hybrid system is almost certainly the future. Some sort of Frankenstein's monster version of a capitalist economy and a socialist welfare state.

I don't see people and/or corporations giving up their property without a fight and at the same time the natural evolution of technology is going to erode a lot of jobs.

Maybe we will have essential breakthroughs in food production and energy storage that will save the day, but I still don't see how you deal with an exploding population and no jobs without some sort of basic handout system to simply keep people alive. Unless letting them slowly starve and die by the millions is acceptable, of course.

It's a lot of mouths to feed.

#SoylentGreenIsPeople

 

[WeAreAFatLesboSchool]

A hybrid system is almost certainly the future. Some sort of Frankenstein's monster version of a capitalist economy and a socialist welfare state.

I don't see people and/or corporations giving up their property without a fight and at the same time the natural evolution of technology is going to erode a lot of jobs.

Maybe we will have essential breakthroughs in food production and energy storage that will save the day, but I still don't see how you deal with an exploding population and no jobs without some sort of basic handout system to simply keep people alive. Unless letting them slowly starve and die by the millions is acceptable, of course.

It's a lot of mouths to feed.

#SoylentGreenIsPeople

We've had breakthroughs in food production and the libtards are apeshit pissed.

 

[PurpleReign]

Obviously not good enough breakthroughs, I meant game changers.

 

[2001400ex]

"Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?"

Not pure socialism, no; it has the same flaws as pure capitalism. But some kind of free market socialism, or democratic socialism, yes I think it is where we are headed, but it will be a couple of generations away still.

Free market socialism? What the fuck is that?

The markets are free, but more of the means of production, such as land, are owned by the society. Individuals or companies can rent it as part of their business plan.

For example, instead of Weyerhaeuser owning millions of acres of land, the land would be owned by the people, and Weyerhaeuser would pay to harvest trees from it.

Gets tricker when you are talking about intellectual capital (rather than land), and of course the various types of capital in between. Progressive economists have a model for it. Probably shorter periods for copyrights and patents.

Of course, a healthy tax structure is in place.

I'm pretty sure that just went over everyone's head on this bored.

Pretty sure the bored rolled their eyes at the idiot

You just made my point.

 

[OZONE]

"Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?"

Not pure socialism, no; it has the same flaws as pure capitalism. But some kind of free market socialism, or democratic socialism, yes I think it is where we are headed, but it will be a couple of generations away still.

Free market socialism? What the fuck is that?

The markets are free, but more of the means of production, such as land, are owned by the society. Individuals or companies can rent it as part of their business plan.

For example, instead of Weyerhaeuser owning millions of acres of land, the land would be owned by the people, and Weyerhaeuser would pay to harvest trees from it.

Gets tricker when you are talking about intellectual capital (rather than land), and of course the various types of capital in between. Progressive economists have a model for it.

A hybrid system is almost certainly the future. Some sort of Frankenstein's monster version of a capitalist economy and a socialist welfare state.

I don't see people and/or corporations giving up their property without a fight and at the same time the natural evolution of technology is going to erode a lot of jobs.

Maybe we will have essential breakthroughs in food production and energy storage that will save the day, but I still don't see how you deal with an exploding population and no jobs without some sort of basic handout system to simply keep people alive. Unless letting them slowly starve and die by the millions is acceptable, of course.

It's a lot of mouths to feed.

#SoylentGreenIsPeople

We've had breakthroughs in food production and the libtards are apeshit pissed.

Huh? Please show an example where a liberal is opposed to food production breakthroughs. Of course, if your definition of "breakthrough" is a food production economy that requires oil for everything from fertilizers to pesticides... and poisons are allowed through the food chain... then your argument has failed before it began.

 

[sarktastic]

I think it's more that as countries become more wealthy, they try to reduce poverty. It's a natural progression of society. Similar to women's rights, as society becomes more educated, women gain more prominence.

too bad governments trying to reduce poverty have gone Owen 12

I like indefinable philosophical social goals that give an emotional warm and fuzzy.

 

[sarktastic]

"Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?"

Not pure socialism, no; it has the same flaws as pure capitalism. But some kind of free market socialism, or democratic socialism, yes I think it is where we are headed, but it will be a couple of generations away still.

Free market socialism? What the fuck is that?

The markets are free, but more of the means of production, such as land, are owned by the society. Individuals or companies can rent it as part of their business plan.

For example, instead of Weyerhaeuser owning millions of acres of land, the land would be owned by the people, and Weyerhaeuser would pay to harvest trees from it.

Gets tricker when you are talking about intellectual capital (rather than land), and of course the various types of capital in between. Progressive economists have a model for it.

A hybrid system is almost certainly the future. Some sort of Frankenstein's monster version of a capitalist economy and a socialist welfare state.

I don't see people and/or corporations giving up their property without a fight and at the same time the natural evolution of technology is going to erode a lot of jobs.

Maybe we will have essential breakthroughs in food production and energy storage that will save the day, but I still don't see how you deal with an exploding population and no jobs without some sort of basic handout system to simply keep people alive. Unless letting them slowly starve and die by the millions is acceptable, of course.

It's a lot of mouths to feed.

#SoylentGreenIsPeople

We've had breakthroughs in food production and the libtards are apeshit pissed.

Huh? Please show an example where a liberal is opposed to food production breakthroughs. Of course, if your definition of "breakthrough" is a food production economy that requires oil for everything from fertilizers to pesticides... and poisons are allowed through the food chain... then your argument has failed before it began.

We could just grow all the food we can with hand sewn heirloom seeds and tell the rest of the world... and much of America...to fuck off when it doesn't go around.

 

[PurpleThrobber]

"Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?"

Not pure socialism, no; it has the same flaws as pure capitalism. But some kind of free market socialism, or democratic socialism, yes I think it is where we are headed, but it will be a couple of generations away still.

Free market socialism? What the fuck is that?

The markets are free, but more of the means of production, such as land, are owned by the society. Individuals or companies can rent it as part of their business plan.

For example, instead of Weyerhaeuser owning millions of acres of land, the land would be owned by the people, and Weyerhaeuser would pay to harvest trees from it.

Gets tricker when you are talking about intellectual capital (rather than land), and of course the various types of capital in between. Progressive economists have a model for it. Probably shorter periods for copyrights and patents.

Of course, a healthy tax structure is in place.

You mean like how private enterprise mines and oil wells are on BLM and USFS properties and pay royalties to the government for the riches they extract?

 

[OZONE]

"Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?"

Not pure socialism, no; it has the same flaws as pure capitalism. But some kind of free market socialism, or democratic socialism, yes I think it is where we are headed, but it will be a couple of generations away still.

Free market socialism? What the fuck is that?

The markets are free, but more of the means of production, such as land, are owned by the society. Individuals or companies can rent it as part of their business plan.

For example, instead of Weyerhaeuser owning millions of acres of land, the land would be owned by the people, and Weyerhaeuser would pay to harvest trees from it.

Gets tricker when you are talking about intellectual capital (rather than land), and of course the various types of capital in between. Progressive economists have a model for it. Probably shorter periods for copyrights and patents.

Of course, a healthy tax structure is in place.

You mean like how private enterprise mines and oil wells are on BLM and USFS properties and pay royalties to the government for the riches they extract?

Similar to that yes, but applied more broadly (as I mentioned in my lumber example), and the oil companies would be charged higher rents and their CEOs would be imprisoned if they spilled any oil. And lots of taxes.

 

[WeAreAFatLesboSchool]

"Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?"

Not pure socialism, no; it has the same flaws as pure capitalism. But some kind of free market socialism, or democratic socialism, yes I think it is where we are headed, but it will be a couple of generations away still.

Free market socialism? What the fuck is that?

The markets are free, but more of the means of production, such as land, are owned by the society. Individuals or companies can rent it as part of their business plan.

For example, instead of Weyerhaeuser owning millions of acres of land, the land would be owned by the people, and Weyerhaeuser would pay to harvest trees from it.

Gets tricker when you are talking about intellectual capital (rather than land), and of course the various types of capital in between. Progressive economists have a model for it.

A hybrid system is almost certainly the future. Some sort of Frankenstein's monster version of a capitalist economy and a socialist welfare state.

I don't see people and/or corporations giving up their property without a fight and at the same time the natural evolution of technology is going to erode a lot of jobs.

Maybe we will have essential breakthroughs in food production and energy storage that will save the day, but I still don't see how you deal with an exploding population and no jobs without some sort of basic handout system to simply keep people alive. Unless letting them slowly starve and die by the millions is acceptable, of course.

It's a lot of mouths to feed.

#SoylentGreenIsPeople

We've had breakthroughs in food production and the libtards are apeshit pissed.

Huh? Please show an example where a liberal is opposed to food production breakthroughs. Of course, if your definition of "breakthrough" is a food production economy that requires oil for everything from fertilizers to pesticides... and poisons are allowed through the food chain... then your argument has failed before it began.

You've proven my point.

My God you're an idiot. But we knew that.

Think man.

 

[OZONE]

"Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?"

Not pure socialism, no; it has the same flaws as pure capitalism. But some kind of free market socialism, or democratic socialism, yes I think it is where we are headed, but it will be a couple of generations away still.

Free market socialism? What the fuck is that?

The markets are free, but more of the means of production, such as land, are owned by the society. Individuals or companies can rent it as part of their business plan.

For example, instead of Weyerhaeuser owning millions of acres of land, the land would be owned by the people, and Weyerhaeuser would pay to harvest trees from it.

Gets tricker when you are talking about intellectual capital (rather than land), and of course the various types of capital in between. Progressive economists have a model for it.

A hybrid system is almost certainly the future. Some sort of Frankenstein's monster version of a capitalist economy and a socialist welfare state.

I don't see people and/or corporations giving up their property without a fight and at the same time the natural evolution of technology is going to erode a lot of jobs.

Maybe we will have essential breakthroughs in food production and energy storage that will save the day, but I still don't see how you deal with an exploding population and no jobs without some sort of basic handout system to simply keep people alive. Unless letting them slowly starve and die by the millions is acceptable, of course.

It's a lot of mouths to feed.

#SoylentGreenIsPeople

We've had breakthroughs in food production and the libtards are apeshit pissed.

Huh? Please show an example where a liberal is opposed to food production breakthroughs. Of course, if your definition of "breakthrough" is a food production economy that requires oil for everything from fertilizers to pesticides... and poisons are allowed through the food chain... then your argument has failed before it began.

You've proven my point.

My God you're an idiot. But we knew that.

Think man.

Great substance to your point. Fits in with your track record.

 

[creepycoug]

I think it's more that as countries become more wealthy, they try to reduce poverty. It's a natural progression of society. Similar to women's rights, as society becomes more educated, women gain more prominence.

Women's rights have done so much for this cuntry. A real sign of an educated, classy society where we can't say anything that offends anyone or go outside without bubble wrap.

Hey, the Creep still gets (not gives) anal on the side, even though Mrs. Creep has always, does, and will likely always, say, "Not there. I don't do that" when he tries to slip one in.

So, really, I don't give no fuck about women's rights as long as I get what I want.

 

[creepycoug]

"Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?"

Not pure socialism, no; it has the same flaws as pure capitalism. But some kind of free market socialism, or democratic socialism, yes I think it is where we are headed, but it will be a couple of generations away still.

Free market socialism? What the fuck is that?

The markets are free, but more of the means of production, such as land, are owned by the society. Individuals or companies can rent it as part of their business plan.

For example, instead of Weyerhaeuser owning millions of acres of land, the land would be owned by the people, and Weyerhaeuser would pay to harvest trees from it.

Gets tricker when you are talking about intellectual capital (rather than land), and of course the various types of capital in between. Progressive economists have a model for it. Probably shorter periods for copyrights and patents.

Of course, a healthy tax structure is in place.

Eh. Instead of reading the Cliffnotes of Das Kapital, The German Ideology, or A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy, you should read the entirety of each book.

Then, and only then, can you throw around terms like "means of production" on a message bored on which I have taken up residence.

Axe the locals. I can throw down on this shit like a mother fucker. I took a shit last week that knows more about this topic than you do. Why do you think Damone left? Because I threw his ass outta here that's why.

Good job spelling "Weyerhaeuser" though; it is a tough one. I'm impressed.

 

[PurpleThrobber]

"Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?"

Not pure socialism, no; it has the same flaws as pure capitalism. But some kind of free market socialism, or democratic socialism, yes I think it is where we are headed, but it will be a couple of generations away still.

Free market socialism? What the fuck is that?

The markets are free, but more of the means of production, such as land, are owned by the society. Individuals or companies can rent it as part of their business plan.

For example, instead of Weyerhaeuser owning millions of acres of land, the land would be owned by the people, and Weyerhaeuser would pay to harvest trees from it.

Gets tricker when you are talking about intellectual capital (rather than land), and of course the various types of capital in between. Progressive economists have a model for it. Probably shorter periods for copyrights and patents.

Of course, a healthy tax structure is in place.

Eh. Instead of reading the Cliffnotes of Das Kapital, The German Ideology, or A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy, you should read the entirety of each book.

Then, and only then, can you throw around terms like "means of production" on a message bored on which I have taken up residence.

Axe the locals. I can throw down on this shit like a mother fucker. I took a shit last week that knows more about this topic than you do. Why do you think Damone left? Because I threw his ass outta here that's why.

Good job spelling "Weyerhaeuser" though; it is a tough one. I'm impressed.

*wherehouser

*Your welcome.

 

[dnc]

"Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?"

Not pure socialism, no; it has the same flaws as pure capitalism. But some kind of free market socialism, or democratic socialism, yes I think it is where we are headed, but it will be a couple of generations away still.

Free market socialism? What the fuck is that?

The markets are free, but more of the means of production, such as land, are owned by the society. Individuals or companies can rent it as part of their business plan.

For example, instead of Weyerhaeuser owning millions of acres of land, the land would be owned by the people, and Weyerhaeuser would pay to harvest trees from it.

Gets tricker when you are talking about intellectual capital (rather than land), and of course the various types of capital in between. Progressive economists have a model for it. Probably shorter periods for copyrights and patents.

Of course, a healthy tax structure is in place.

Eh. Instead of reading the Cliffnotes of Das Kapital, The German Ideology, or A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy, you should read the entirety of each book.

Then, and only then, can you throw around terms like "means of production" on a message bored on which I have taken up residence.

Axe the locals. I can throw down on this shit like a mother fucker. I took a shit last week that knows more about this topic than you do. Why do you think Damone left? Because I threw his ass outta here that's why.

Good job spelling "Weyerhaeuser" though; it is a tough one. I'm impressed.

*whorehouser

*Your welcome.

 

[RaceBannon]

The story of the railroads and the timber industry and the land of the great west in America is an interesting one. Today a lot of that land is housing developments built by whorehouser spin offs as well as other timber giants.

The people of this country have been paid several times for that initial investment of land and got the engine for the greatest economic engine in history. And Stanford University.

And still some who lived off the fat of that land want to whine and bitch and complain. go figure