Hezbollah is horrific.
That's why Iran can fuck the fuck off when it comes to Lebanon. No proxy state enablement.
Iran emerges stronger than before
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That's why Iran can fuck the fuck off when it comes to Lebanon. No proxy state enablement.
I said take a look at 30 days and see if we were bogged down. We aren't. If we were then declare victory and leave. What is clear is that Iran is not stronger than they were before the war. Take pride in your America Last and just keep lying.
HHusky
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“Give it a month then declare victory and stop the bombing. Either the Iranian people want a peaceful functioning society or they don't. Not a forever war.”-Gasbag, then calling for regime change and bugging out, now trying to adhere to the intelligible cult mantra.
MikeDamone
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This is retarded even for you. It's what we used to call "pressing"
It's pretty clear who's struggling here
So strong....
HHusky
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More winning from Iran-
Air Defenses
Air Defenses
- Pre-war: Layered system with Russian S-300/400 equivalents, indigenous systems, and dense radar coverage.
- Current state: ~80% destroyed or heavily degraded. U.S. officials report over 13,000 targets struck overall, with air defenses among the top priorities. This has given U.S./Israeli forces near air superiority over much of Iran for sustained operations.
9news.com.au
Navy and Maritime Forces- Pre-war: IRGC Navy and regular navy with hundreds of fast-attack craft, missile boats, frigates, submarines, and mine-laying capabilities focused on asymmetric threats in the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz.
- Current state: Catastrophic losses. Over 90% of the regular naval fleet sunk or destroyed (including all major surface combatants), with ~150 vessels at the bottom of the ocean. Shipyards and support infrastructure also hit hard. Iran retains some small craft, submarines (partially), and shore-based anti-ship missiles/mines, allowing limited harassment of shipping, but it can no longer project meaningful naval power.
- Pre-war: Large arsenal (estimates 2,500–6,000+ missiles) with underground facilities, mobile launchers (~470 estimated), and production capacity.
- Current state: Significantly degraded.
- Missile fire rate down ~90% from initial salvos.
- ~190+ launchers destroyed or disabled (Israel claims ~330 of ~470).
- Many underground sites and tunnel entrances struck (77% of analyzed entrances hit in one assessment), rendering launchers inaccessible or ineffective even if physically intact.
- Production facilities: ~90% of weapons factories attacked, with two-thirds or more of arms manufacturing capacity damaged. Stockpiles depleted from launches and strikes.
Drones and Other Capabilities- Drones: Retained ~50% capability per some reports, but launch rates down sharply (73–95%). Easier to produce than missiles but still vulnerable.
- Air Force: Limited manned aircraft losses reported (dozens of older jets destroyed on ground), but grounded effectively by air defenses and fuel/logistics issues.
- Ground Forces/IRGC/Basij: Heavy leadership losses (dozens of senior commanders killed, including top IRGC, Basij, and defense officials). ~6,000+ military deaths and ~15,000 wounded per U.S./Israeli figures (Iranian sources lower). Morale issues, desertions, and recruitment problems reported; many units combat-ineffective due to fear of strikes and command disruption.
HHusky
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Before the war, the Strait, a narrow passage carrying around a fifth of the world’s oil and gas, was formally treated as an international waterway. Iran monitored it, harassed shipping and intermittently intercepted vessels, but it stopped short of asserting outright control.
In the new reality, Tehran has moved from shadowing tankers to effectively dictating terms. It currently functions as the de facto gatekeeper of the shipping route, selectively deciding on passage and on what terms. Iran wants to charge ships for safe passage.
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At home, Iran’s leadership remains firmly in control - even though the country’s economy is in tatters and great swathes of infrastructure in ruins from American and Israeli bombs.
“What did the U.S.–Israeli war actually achieve?” asked Gerges. “Regime change in Tehran? No. The surrender of the Islamic Republic? No. Containment of Iran’s stockpile of highly enriched uranium? No. An end to Tehran’s support for its regional allies? No.”
In the new reality, Tehran has moved from shadowing tankers to effectively dictating terms. It currently functions as the de facto gatekeeper of the shipping route, selectively deciding on passage and on what terms. Iran wants to charge ships for safe passage.
. . .
At home, Iran’s leadership remains firmly in control - even though the country’s economy is in tatters and great swathes of infrastructure in ruins from American and Israeli bombs.
“What did the U.S.–Israeli war actually achieve?” asked Gerges. “Regime change in Tehran? No. The surrender of the Islamic Republic? No. Containment of Iran’s stockpile of highly enriched uranium? No. An end to Tehran’s support for its regional allies? No.”
Sounds like they aren’t acting as good global neighbors and could disrupt shipping anytime they wanted to do so. They’re already slaughtering their own citizens and H is fine with it. That type of authoritarian control makes H feel young again.
How does Oman feel about Iran asserting complete control over their shipping lanes in the Strait, H?
To get real regime change to people who are ideologically and culturally more friendly to the West (cough* will let us have oil *COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH), you'd have to do a major invasion. I don't think the CIA is going to do the trick this tim.
I still don't know what the exact objectives are, though some are obvious.
I still don't know what the exact objectives are, though some are obvious.
Civilians die in war. It sucks, but you don't stop fighting because of it. And considering how many more were and are being massacred by the mullahs and IRGC I don't think your "but what about the school children?" snark is as important as you believe it to be.
Imagine starting a thread this retarded
CallMeBigErn
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Thank you for asking, Stumpy. Iran's proposal includes tolls for Oman. That's just how nice Iran is.
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Iran's 10-point proposal for ending the war includes a provision allowing it and Oman to charge ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz, according to a regional official who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss negotiations they were directly involved in. The official said Iran would use the money it raised for reconstruction.
But the Law of the Sea Treaty's Article 17 guarantees a right of "innocent passage" for ships that do not threaten the coastal states. So allowing Iran and Oman to start charging for passage through the strait would set a dangerous precedent, experts said.
We just took ownership of the strait. Countries don't control oceans and charge passage fee's. If that's what's going to happen we have the largest and best Navy and we'll charge every country to travel on every ocean. We can pay the Demonrat national fraud debt off in a month.
HHusky
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CallMeBigErn
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Christ
There's not going to be a toll mullahs
Int'l Maritime Law says countries have domain 12 miles out, but I don't know how that works for straits. I don't think Iran cares about the 12 mile rule.