If you don’t think AI will kill us all

Rome had an idle population and how did that work out? At the end they didn't have the will to defend themselves. Sounds familiar. We will pay money we don't have to defend a border 4600 miles away, but won't even pretend to defend our own southern border. Then we are happy to provide bread and circuses to the invaders. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. If you won't work to earn a living but expect someone else to provide for you, you aren't living, you are just existing.
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Rome was always going to fall. If it wasn't that (and I'm not sure it was entirely or mostly that), it would have been something else. Rome was born of high stakes betrayal. Romulus killed Remus over an argument about where to begin the building of Rome. Even at its very beginning, one brother killed another to hold @Swaye over Rome. The city was constantly ebbing and flowing for the better and for the worse over political rivalry and skulduggery. Rome was doomed from the start. But what a fucking empire it was, eh?
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Rome was also complacent and didnt have better military tech than the competition

Legions were great. Then everyone else caught up.

Doesn't help when you have dozens of civil wars all the time, either.
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Doesn't help when you give away all your war fighting equipment either.
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The US has given Ukraine lots of older artillery equipment, old Bradleys, and old Abrams

All of these models are scheduled to be replaced.

The thing that matters most if you are the United States is the Air Force and the Navy. These are the real teeth of the military. There is no peer to the F-22 or the F-35.

Many military experts believe the F-16 is better than anything Russia can field, and especially China.

Additionally, the naval equipment is vastly superior. The US has over a dozen carrier groups. China sort of has 1, and Russia can't even take their dilapidated POS out to sea.

The only thing China has that is at all decent is their anti-ship missles. No one knows how good those are and how well a carrier group with submarine support would do against them. And we will more than 99.99% likely never find out.

The US does not want to invade Russia or China, so who really gives a shit about artillery? The US will be fine and can produce shells at a decent clip if needed.

Tldr, the Air Force and Navy is the real imperial force. Not the javelin infantry launcher or some old ass humvees
 
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Rome had an idle population and how did that work out? At the end they didn't have the will to defend themselves. Sounds familiar. We will pay money we don't have to defend a border 4600 miles away, but won't even pretend to defend our own southern border. Then we are happy to provide bread and circuses to the invaders. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. If you won't work to earn a living but expect someone else to provide for you, you aren't living, you are just existing.
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Rome was always going to fall. If it wasn't that (and I'm not sure it was entirely or mostly that), it would have been something else. Rome was born of high stakes betrayal. Romulus killed Remus over an argument about where to begin the building of Rome. Even at its very beginning, one brother killed another to hold @Swaye over Rome. The city was constantly ebbing and flowing for the better and for the worse over political rivalry and skulduggery. Rome was doomed from the start. But what a fucking empire it was, eh?
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Rome was also complacent and didnt have better military tech than the competition

Legions were great. Then everyone else caught up.

Doesn't help when you have dozens of civil wars all the time, either.
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Doesn't help when you give away all your war fighting equipment either.
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The US has given Ukraine lots of older artillery equipment, old Bradleys, and old Abrams

All of these models are scheduled to be replaced.

The thing that matters most if you are the United States is the Air Force and the Navy. These are the real teeth of the military. There is no peer to the F-22 or the F-35.

Many military experts believe the F-16 is better than anything Russia can field, and especially China.

Additionally, the naval equipment is vastly superior. The US has over a dozen carrier groups. China sort of has 1, and Russia can't even take their dilapidated POS out to sea.

The only thing China has that is at all decent is their anti-ship missles. No one knows how good those are and how well a carrier group with submarine support would do against them. And we will more than 99.99% likely never find out.

The US does not want to invade Russia or China, so who really gives a shit about artillery? The US will be fine and can produce shells at a decent clip if needed.

Tldr, the Air Force and Navy is the real imperial force. Not the javelin infantry launcher or some old ass humvees
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My father in law is jerking off uncontrollably to your comments about the navy.
 
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I mean, hasn't been brought up but Quantum Computing and that whole race was the doomsday thing 10 years ago. What happened to that?
 
I talk to guys still doing the real shit. I don't make vague references. An F16 is still a great fighter and may still have older missiles to use after a week. An older m1 Abrams is still better than 99% of tanks we'd face. Same with a Bradley. Scheduled to be replaced and have been replaced is quite a bit different!
 
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You guys worry too much...

UBI is a lot more likley than Skynet

The machines wont need to do population control anyways. Births are down across the globe.
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Your generation is exactly what @Doogles is talking about. Too cool for school as we used to say. Why worry?

Because you have no grasp of history or human nature. Keep scrolling bro. UBI needs someone to pay into it. Who would that be?

There is no reason to keep a large population that does nothing that you need to pay. You're actually giving credence to the theory that your masters want to trim 81% of the world population.

@Doogles is dialed in on deep fakes and the general destruction of society

Good luck the rest of the way

I had a good run. I doubt you will because you want to leave it in the hands of folks who don't give a shit about you
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Sounds grim.

Bodies stacked like cordwood? Lmao

Again - you worry too much

Keep worrying buddy
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I don't think he's worried. I think he's trying to provide some advice which is falling on deaf ears.
 
I mean, hasn't been brought up but Quantum Computing and that whole race was the doomsday thing 10 years ago. What happened to that?
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Quantum Computing is helping advance AI. Once the spectrum of light is used to move data, and copper, gold etc become obsolete, this advancement will become exponential. My only input in this debate would be to focus on the positive but have a healthy respect for the negative.
 
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You guys worry too much...

UBI is a lot more likley than Skynet

The machines wont need to do population control anyways. Births are down across the globe.
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Your generation is exactly what @Doogles is talking about. Too cool for school as we used to say. Why worry?

Because you have no grasp of history or human nature. Keep scrolling bro. UBI needs someone to pay into it. Who would that be?

There is no reason to keep a large population that does nothing that you need to pay. You're actually giving credence to the theory that your masters want to trim 81% of the world population.

@Doogles is dialed in on deep fakes and the general destruction of society

Good luck the rest of the way

I had a good run. I doubt you will because you want to leave it in the hands of folks who don't give a shit about you
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Sounds grim.

Bodies stacked like cordwood? Lmao

Again - you worry too much

Keep worrying buddy
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I don't think he's worried. I think he's trying to provide some advice which is falling on deaf ears.
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Advice about what.

This is a football message board.

What can you, me, or Race do about anything? Besides vote every now and then
 
It's coming for every white collar job that is not related to tech.

Lawyers, Loan officers, etc are fucked. Within a decade if not 5 years.
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You forgot one thing: the government. They'll regulate the fuck out of it.

They love to list lawyers on this list, but what they really mean is paralegal and low-level associate volume work. The judgment isn't there yet for a real lawyer. Accountants? Much more vulnerable. Traders and Finance Bros? Already happening. Fake conservative debaters on anonymous internet message boards? Already happening. And as I said long ago, coders are also on the hook. The AI can or will be able to code better than people.

It technically has the ability to replace everybody. It won't. We're freaking out again like it's Y2K, which turned out to be a nothing sandwich.

Can't stop progress. The benies will outweigh the costs. May as well sit back and enjoy it[/b] and let @oregonblitzkrieg rant about it wherever he ran off to. Maybe this is the beginning of a technological evolutionary pivot Marx envisioned as giving birth to his socialist paradise where scarcity is eliminated. @UW_Doog_Bot ?
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Disagree if 10% of the population becomes unemployable. There will be rioting, or this ushers in universal basic income at the federal level where people are paid for simply existing.

OTOH, there's a chance that this could push some folks back into the trades which could be a benefit for our infrastructure needs, housing shortages, etc.
 
You guys worry too much...

UBI is a lot more likley than Skynet

The machines wont need to do population control anyways. Births are down across the globe.
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Enjoy having a social credit score determine what you have access to.

You don't need to be a "prepper," but it sounds like you need to talk a long walk for some perspective to THINK and CARE about what society could look like in 25 years if everyone has the lazy attitude you seem to have.
 
Rome had an idle population and how did that work out? At the end they didn't have the will to defend themselves. Sounds familiar. We will pay money we don't have to defend a border 4600 miles away, but won't even pretend to defend our own southern border. Then we are happy to provide bread and circuses to the invaders. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. If you won't work to earn a living but expect someone else to provide for you, you aren't living, you are just existing.
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Rome was always going to fall. If it wasn't that (and I'm not sure it was entirely or mostly that), it would have been something else. Rome was born of high stakes betrayal. Romulus killed Remus over an argument about where to begin the building of Rome. Even at its very beginning, one brother killed another to hold @Swaye over Rome. The city was constantly ebbing and flowing for the better and for the worse over political rivalry and skulduggery. Rome was doomed from the start. But what a fucking empire it was, eh?
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Rome was also complacent and didnt have better military tech than the competition

Legions were great. Then everyone else caught up.

Doesn't help when you have dozens of civil wars all the time, either.
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And try to expand the empire into the east as far as they did.
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If every Roman Emperor was similar to Augustus, we'd still be living in Rome

Conquest wasnt the problem IMO. Or the administration.

They definitely got complacent.

Despite the Tug's doom and gloom, America and friends remain lightyears ahead of the fucking Chinese and Russians.
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Notable expert on everything heard from.

I don't think anyone is suggesting the world is ending, but to argue that the US will endure forever is asinine. Regardless of whatever you consider complacency to mean
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Aliens scare me more than AI. Tuff to beat the hive mind fleet that appears on the edge of the solarsystem

We can't know the future, but the hypotheticals about AI are funny.

Society has markedly improved in damn near every way over the last 100 years of vast technological innovation.

The Tug wouldve been bitching about horse breeders losing their jobs at Henry Ford, and it wouldve been bitching about OSHA laws limiting children in the coal mines. How can the mines remain profitable?!?!?!?!

Society evolves.

You guys are like the climate kooks thinking the world will be underwater unless we go vegan. Just on the other end of the spectrum.

Also - no one here knows shit about fuck. Aint an expert in sight. Which is why its fun
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"Big Tech is my Lord and Savior. They would never deem people useless for the sake of making more money."
 
There was a lot of fear mongering about this pre China Cold in the media. Now it's starting up again. I don't think it happens all at once, but you already see it in Fry's, Safeway, Target, Costco, and Carl's Sr. has AI taking orders in Buckeye or some suburban Phx shithole. Luckily I'm in an industry that's pretty bullet proof to this.
 
AI that is programmed is different from REAL AI that learns how to think for itself and grows exponentially more intelligent than us
 
You guys worry too much...

UBI is a lot more likley than Skynet

The machines wont need to do population control anyways. Births are down across the globe.
Click to expand...

Your generation is exactly what @Doogles is talking about. Too cool for school as we used to say. Why worry?

Because you have no grasp of history or human nature. Keep scrolling bro. UBI needs someone to pay into it. Who would that be?

There is no reason to keep a large population that does nothing that you need to pay. You're actually giving credence to the theory that your masters want to trim 81% of the world population.

@Doogles is dialed in on deep fakes and the general destruction of society

Good luck the rest of the way

I had a good run. I doubt you will because you want to leave it in the hands of folks who don't give a shit about you
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Sounds grim.

Bodies stacked like cordwood? Lmao

Again - you worry too much

Keep worrying buddy
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I don't think he's worried. I think he's trying to provide some advice which is falling on deaf ears.
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Advice about what.

This is a football message board.

What can you, me, or Race do about anything? Besides vote every now and then
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FMFYFE
 
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