How would things be different?
If FSP and Heir never existed…
- Thread starter Quietcowskee
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Less talent in state. They’ve drawn more attention to local players but lake is too fucking stupid to create a pipeline. He thinks udub matters and is a national brand. It’s not even a regional brand.
Show up at these events to massage Ford and Reggies ego. Then turn one or two of their guys into day one draft picks. Then just gurgle.
#fucklake
Show up at these events to massage Ford and Reggies ego. Then turn one or two of their guys into day one draft picks. Then just gurgle.
#fucklake
There isn’t more talent because of FSP and Heir. They help kids get discovered and do give them another platform to be found by college coach. Training year round is mostly good too, although there are drawbacks to it as well.
Tracy has done a great job building his brand. I still think he’s mostly a grifter and his ego is enormous, but I don’t know shit.
My thought was there’s a little more talent in the state now, but it’s also valued higher than it was by these field trips they go on. We’d keep a lot more of these in state kids if they weren’t getting whisked away to Alabama as sophomores.
Neighbor2972
Active poster
Well there would be some other 7on7 team, because there are teams everywhere now.
But regardless, I don't think much would be different. They aren't pushing kids to leave the state, they aren't the reason we can't recruit.
But regardless, I don't think much would be different. They aren't pushing kids to leave the state, they aren't the reason we can't recruit.
WTF does that shit even mean?
They get mad about other 7 on 7 teams asking a FSP guy to play with them, but have no problem poaching a kid if FSP wants them.
It’s hypocritical. If they really cared so much about the Northwest kids, they wouldn’t let Jalen McMillan and other out of state kids play for them. When they do, it’s a NW kid that stands on the sidelines. So it’s all about the kids to Tracy and others, except when a highly recruited player from out of state wants they persuade to join them.
GrundleStiltzkin
New Fish
These are businesses, and creepy ones at that.
It’s AAU basketball except for football. Most of the coaches are grifters trying to grift their way up. A few of them mean well. Some are a mix of the two.
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RealRhino
New Fish
Agree some other grifter would have filled the void by creating useless bullshit workouts and preying on kids, but disagree about the claim they don’t hurt our recruiting. I know they don’t *owe* the UW anything, but they could show a little more discernment when it comes to touting the offers one of “their” guys gets.
They shout it from the rooftops when a local kid gets a USC offer, for example, even though they must know Helton sucks and going there actually harms the kid’s chances. Ditto treating Oregon as if it’s as good as Washington. It’s not, but they want to promote themselves more than helping kids, IMO.
The most hurtful thing is their promotion of out-of-state programs as if they’re better than Washington. They tweet so breathlessly that a guy “is going to be a NATIONAL recruit!” Are there programs that have had better football success? Of course. But that doesn’t make them better. FSP/Heir are like a friend who makes you miserable bc you’re in a great relationship with a 7 who treats you great, is drama-free and is good for you, but they keep pushing that you can do better and points out all these 9s that you should be with bc they’re hotter wo considering whether they’re actually better *for you*.
Fuck Those Grifters
1to392831weretaken
New Fish
Salvon Ahmed would have ran a 4.3 at the combine.
rustysavage
New Fish
Idk what they could do to create a pipeline (they did hire Tracy's bro btw) with either program that wouldn't backfire fairly often.
Sell out for one and quite likely be shut out by the other.
Sell out for one and then be forced to take guys we don't want just to "maintain" the relationship.
End up looking like even bigger pussies than usual when they inevitably forget about our plan as soon as Saban or Dabo or any USC or quacks coach shows up.
Like someone said earlier... this shit is just AAU basketball. U gotta be a weirdo or a piece of shit to make ur "career" a never ending cycle of jock sniffing teens. The training is whatever. Not much ground breaking stuff goin on at these places.
Sell out for one and quite likely be shut out by the other.
Sell out for one and then be forced to take guys we don't want just to "maintain" the relationship.
End up looking like even bigger pussies than usual when they inevitably forget about our plan as soon as Saban or Dabo or any USC or quacks coach shows up.
Like someone said earlier... this shit is just AAU basketball. U gotta be a weirdo or a piece of shit to make ur "career" a never ending cycle of jock sniffing teens. The training is whatever. Not much ground breaking stuff goin on at these places.
GrundleStiltzkin
New Fish
Peddlers of broken dreams, 81% of the tim.
So training all yr or almost all year doesn’t make you better thus creating more talent?
Ok!
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Good players would train all year anyways. It’s not really a new concept. High school teams have been doing it for a long time.
Training with pros and with other talented peers probably does help motivate some and makes them better. I don’t think there is substantially more PAC 12 level talent because of Tracy Ford and FSP.
We to go to Steven's Field in the summer to watch the Oly Bears put in the summer work
dnc
New Fish
Moar good nooze
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