I have finally figured out what the problem is with our BUCK recruiting!

Carlos Johnson should have been sat down by Petersen and Romar2.0 before transferring. Kid doesn't have the right skillset and attitude for a basketball player. But it would have been perfect for buck.
 
“We tell everybody they’re going to play BUCK for us” - 2017 narrative

“We barely offer anyone at BUCK” -2018 narrative

2019 narrative will be special!!
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2019 Narrative: "Look kid, I'll give you 100 bucks to come play for us."
 
We offer very few BUCK/OLB’s per year. Look at the scholarship offers, it’s Trice, Latu and Tuputala, of which we’re batting 1/3. What other guys have offers?

And finding a guy who can play BUCK, DE and OLB with essentially equal effectiveness is significantly more difficult than finding a corner or nose tackle (literally 100’s of thousands of players to choose from). Very few high schools are likely to run a sophisticated defense that would have a BUCK-type player, so kids rarely train themselves for it or play it live, so you have to project the player’s body and skill development more, an OLB to the body type and pass rushing or a DE to be able to drop in coverage. Nearly every school has a NT-type position, and all have CB’s, so guys are groomed for those roles.

CB and NT bodies are not nearly as hard to find. Elite ones, arguably, but they’re far more common than elite pass rusher bodies. That body type is just not the norm.
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I don't agree with this at all based on experience. Ten years ago, sure, you are correct. Every team that runs a 3-4, 4-2-5, and a stack has an "overhang" at the high school level now. In a 10 game season 8 teams will have one.

Kenny Rowe is by far the best Buck type player the Ducks have had, but once Dion Jordan existed everyone wanted one. I still think he is the most successful one going #3 overall, then Washington followed him, then Prevot, now Hollins, and DJ Johnson will follow.

I don't think there are a lot of those spider looking freaks out there and Oregon has probably been the most successful getting them and that's probably because they cam just show a kid what it looks like on film at their program like Bama with big running backs.

UW could easily find a Kenny Rowe type that is built like a brick shit house, can run, and plays with a super high motor. That even fits the OKG nonsense.
 
“We tell everybody they’re going to play BUCK for us” - 2017 narrative

“We barely offer anyone at BUCK” -2018 narrative

2019 narrative will be special!!
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2019 Narrative: "Look kid, I'll give you 100 bucks to come play for us."
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I've spent more then that to get a kid to join my nephews little league team.
 
This video of a legit BUCK next to regular humans has been cracking me up for months. Are these people really the same species?https://twitter.com/Grantjones111/status/986815632263049216
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This is this for reference. https://247sports.com/Player/Zach-Harrison-46035767/
He might win the fucking state in the 100m while being the biggest strongest human as well
cant believe how unfair life is
buck is the most genetics position on the entire field and its why okg philosophy will continue to fail horribly there
 
We offer very few BUCK/OLB’s per year. Look at the scholarship offers, it’s Trice, Latu and Tuputala, of which we’re batting 1/3. What other guys have offers?

And finding a guy who can play BUCK, DE and OLB with essentially equal effectiveness is significantly more difficult than finding a corner or nose tackle (literally 100’s of thousands of players to choose from). Very few high schools are likely to run a sophisticated defense that would have a BUCK-type player, so kids rarely train themselves for it or play it live, so you have to project the player’s body and skill development more, an OLB to the body type and pass rushing or a DE to be able to drop in coverage. Nearly every school has a NT-type position, and all have CB’s, so guys are groomed for those roles.

CB and NT bodies are not nearly as hard to find. Elite ones, arguably, but they’re far more common than elite pass rusher bodies. That body type is just not the norm.
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I don't agree with this at all based on experience. Ten years ago, sure, you are correct. Every team that runs a 3-4, 4-2-5, and a stack has an "overhang" at the high school level now. In a 10 game season 8 teams will have one.

Kenny Rowe is by far the best Buck type player the Ducks have had, but once Dion Jordan existed everyone wanted one. I still think he is the most successful one going #3 overall, then Washington followed him, then Prevot, now Hollins, and DJ Johnson will follow.

I don't think there are a lot of those spider looking freaks out there and Oregon has probably been the most successful getting them and that's probably because they cam just show a kid what it looks like on film at their program like Bama with big running backs.

UW could easily find a Kenny Rowe type that is built like a brick shit house, can run, and plays with a super high motor. That even fits the OKG nonsense.
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Bama’s defensive ends say hi!
 
Ok, I can dig this but the only solution that comes to mind is doing exactly what Pete won’t do, what whoregon does, and offer every 4-5 ⭐️ Buck prospect.
I’m going to pretend I know how Pete thinks and I do the same thing when I’m recruiting sales people. I live in the armpit of FL and no one with real sales chops wants to live here. I’m not going to find the perfect sales rep much as Pete knows kwat sux at recruiting this position and they aren’t going to land the perfect recruit. As such, I find people who I can work with who are strong in my areas of weakness and weak in areas of my strengths. Essentially OKG’s who possess at least one of the multitude of skills needed to perform.
Fuck... if we could just get one mutha fucker to terrorize the Qb’s in ‘19. Secondary is lights out but few (1 or 2) turnovers because of no edge rush and occasional interior pressure. I want to see more blitzes
Thinking only MORE winning (cfp) appearance fixes this as we know Pete’s loyal to a fault. Guess we’ll see.
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How is the door to door book sales these days?
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Well, your wife bought a copy of kauma sutra after I showed her how page 17 & 42 work (you’re welcome) I’d say things are great! 👍
 
This is horseshit. What we need is to fucking recruit fast strategy dudes because they're the good BUCKs. End of fucking story.
 
You fucks can’t tell that’s dawgman doog bullshit?
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Some of us haven’t read Doognan in years
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I mean - sure. Hopefully you recognize the quality of the argument as being inferior. Obviously Mosster thought it was real, because he thinks those types of things are real. Because Ducks still say shit like that.

But us, here? Hopefully we have some standards.
 
We offer very few BUCK/OLB’s per year. Look at the scholarship offers, it’s Trice, Latu and Tuputala, of which we’re batting 1/3. What other guys have offers?

And finding a guy who can play BUCK, DE and OLB with essentially equal effectiveness is significantly more difficult than finding a corner or nose tackle (literally 100’s of thousands of players to choose from). Very few high schools are likely to run a sophisticated defense that would have a BUCK-type player, so kids rarely train themselves for it or play it live, so you have to project the player’s body and skill development more, an OLB to the body type and pass rushing or a DE to be able to drop in coverage. Nearly every school has a NT-type position, and all have CB’s, so guys are groomed for those roles.

CB and NT bodies are not nearly as hard to find. Elite ones, arguably, but they’re far more common than elite pass rusher bodies. That body type is just not the norm.
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I don't agree with this at all based on experience. Ten years ago, sure, you are correct. Every team that runs a 3-4, 4-2-5, and a stack has an "overhang" at the high school level now. In a 10 game season 8 teams will have one.

Kenny Rowe is by far the best Buck type player the Ducks have had, but once Dion Jordan existed everyone wanted one. I still think he is the most successful one going #3 overall, then Washington followed him, then Prevot, now Hollins, and DJ Johnson will follow.

I don't think there are a lot of those spider looking freaks out there and Oregon has probably been the most successful getting them and that's probably because they cam just show a kid what it looks like on film at their program like Bama with big running backs.

UW could easily find a Kenny Rowe type that is built like a brick shit house, can run, and plays with a super high motor. That even fits the OKG nonsense.
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Bama’s defensive ends say hi!
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One of Bama's 5* DE's played for us. He is 6'7" 280lbs right now. That's not a buck/overhang type. That's a 4i or 5 rush end. They play a different style than Oregon and UW, which they should. They get NFL players at every spot.
 
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