Husky Jacks open thread [2019]

Has Illinois infiltrated our whole athletic department? I see only 1 dude putting up dubs vs 9 illini I's and 1 suh dude.
 
From Bruce Feldman’s top 50 freaks in college article:

14. Kyler Gordon, Washington, cornerback

Jimmy Lake has produced a boat-load of big-time DBs since coming to UDub, so when he calls a guy the most athletic defensive back he’s had, that’s a mouthful. Meet the Huskies’ next stud cover man. Gordon still needs to hone his technique and his attention to detail and deliver in games, but this kid has a chance to be very special.

The 6-0, 195-pound redshirt freshman, who has a background in dance, ballet and kung fu, is a former member of the Seattle Storm’s hip hop dance troupe at age 9. This spring he had the top vertical jump on the team at 42.5 — four more inches than the next best leap. He took second in the 3-cone drill (6.52 seconds) and in pro agility drill (3.87 seconds), which would have been No. 1 at this year’s NFL combine among DBs. He also broad jumped 10-5.

“He’s like Gumby,” Lake says. “He’s so flexible, and the way he can jump and run. He’s definitely got some freakish ability.
 
From Bruce Feldman’s top 50 freaks in college article:

14. Kyler Gordon, Washington, cornerback

Jimmy Lake has produced a boat-load of big-time DBs since coming to UDub, so when he calls a guy the most athletic defensive back he’s had, that’s a mouthful. Meet the Huskies’ next stud cover man. Gordon still needs to hone his technique and his attention to detail and deliver in games, but this kid has a chance to be very special.

The 6-0, 195-pound redshirt freshman, who has a background in dance, ballet and kung fu, is a former member of the Seattle Storm’s hip hop dance troupe at age 9. This spring he had the top vertical jump on the team at 42.5 — four more inches than the next best leap. He took second in the 3-cone drill (6.52 seconds) and in pro agility drill (3.87 seconds), which would have been No. 1 at this year’s NFL combine among DBs. He also broad jumped 10-5.

“He’s like Gumby,” Lake says. “He’s so flexible, and the way he can jump and run. He’s definitely got some freakish ability.
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Our? RS Frosh DB is at least on one list considered the 14th biggest physical freak in College Football.....

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I keep wondering where he'll be best used. Guys like this need some opportunity to freelance if you want to maximize opportunity to make game changing plays. Isolating him outside limits that to an extent. He seems made for nickel or free safety.

Maybe not though. Shutting down one side of the field and being somewhat anonymous as a CB is pretty good too.
 
I keep wondering where he'll be best used. Guys like this need some opportunity to freelance if you want to maximize opportunity to make game changing plays. Isolating him outside limits that to an extent. He seems made for nickel or free safety.

Maybe not though. Shutting down one side of the field and being somewhat anonymous as a CB is pretty good too.
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Athletic corners remove a huge chunk of the field that you can operate on. Barry Sanders and Deion Sanders 2.0. If he really is that good put him there and he will get a bunch of turnovers before his reputation precedes him.
 
How has using Kyler sparingly as a two way player not been considered?
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I think he's had some reps fielding punts.

You mean offense though I suppose. I'd rather they just find receivers with equal abilities. Nacua and McMillan, Pettis and Ross fit the mold. It's awful 2019 out here for 2020 or 2016 though, so maybe you have a legit question.
 
How has using Kyler sparingly as a two way player not been considered?
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I think he's had some reps fielding punts.

You mean offense though I suppose. I'd rather they just find receivers with equal abilities. Nacua and McMillan, Pettis and Ross fit the mold. It's awful 2019 out here for 2020 or 2016 though, so maybe you have a legit question.
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The last place I'd want him is fielding punts, frankly.

And while I definitely agree with your sentiment of "just find real receivers" and generally think two way players are folly, I'm not sure there are many athletes that are Kyler's equal, at any position. That video of him skywalking way back when in his recruiting thread has had me dreaming on him ever since, and it just occurred to me you want players like that on the field at much as possible.
 
How has using Kyler sparingly as a two way player not been considered?
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I think he's had some reps fielding punts.

You mean offense though I suppose. I'd rather they just find receivers with equal abilities. Nacua and McMillan, Pettis and Ross fit the mold. It's awful 2019 out here for 2020 or 2016 though, so maybe you have a legit question.
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The last place I'd want him is fielding punts, frankly.

And while I definitely agree with your sentiment of "just find real receivers" and generally think two way players are folly, I'm not sure there are many athletes that are Kyler's equal, at any position. That video of him skywalking way back when in his recruiting thread has had me dreaming on him ever since, and it just occurred to me you want players like that on the field at much as possible.
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Why wouldn't you want him returning punts?

The dropoff from Pettis to Fuller should be all anyone needs to know about the value of the position.

Don't play scared. Let your playmakers make plays.
 
How has using Kyler sparingly as a two way player not been considered?
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I think he's had some reps fielding punts.

You mean offense though I suppose. I'd rather they just find receivers with equal abilities. Nacua and McMillan, Pettis and Ross fit the mold. It's awful 2019 out here for 2020 or 2016 though, so maybe you have a legit question.
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The last place I'd want him is fielding punts, frankly.

And while I definitely agree with your sentiment of "just find real receivers" and generally think two way players are folly, I'm not sure there are many athletes that are Kyler's equal, at any position. That video of him skywalking way back when in his recruiting thread has had me dreaming on him ever since, and it just occurred to me you want players like that on the field at much as possible.
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Why wouldn't you want him returning punts?

The dropoff from Pettis to Fuller should be all anyone needs to know about the value of the position.

Don't play scared. Let your playmakers make plays.
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Hell I would be happy with a returner that catches the punt on the run and doesn't let it bounce. Nothing worse than watching field position lost on a rolling punt.
 
How has using Kyler sparingly as a two way player not been considered?
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I think he's had some reps fielding punts.

You mean offense though I suppose. I'd rather they just find receivers with equal abilities. Nacua and McMillan, Pettis and Ross fit the mold. It's awful 2019 out here for 2020 or 2016 though, so maybe you have a legit question.
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The last place I'd want him is fielding punts, frankly.

And while I definitely agree with your sentiment of "just find real receivers" and generally think two way players are folly, I'm not sure there are many athletes that are Kyler's equal, at any position. That video of him skywalking way back when in his recruiting thread has had me dreaming on him ever since, and it just occurred to me you want players like that on the field at much as possible.
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Why wouldn't you want him returning punts?

The dropoff from Pettis to Fuller should be all anyone needs to know about the value of the position.

Don't play scared. Let your playmakers make plays.
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Sure, if he proves to be Pettis-esque at punt returning, that's a no brainier. But if he's JAGy at it, I'd rather put a much lower premium player in that role than what appears to be a generational athlete.
 
How has using Kyler sparingly as a two way player not been considered?
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I think he's had some reps fielding punts.

You mean offense though I suppose. I'd rather they just find receivers with equal abilities. Nacua and McMillan, Pettis and Ross fit the mold. It's awful 2019 out here for 2020 or 2016 though, so maybe you have a legit question.
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The last place I'd want him is fielding punts, frankly.

And while I definitely agree with your sentiment of "just find real receivers" and generally think two way players are folly, I'm not sure there are many athletes that are Kyler's equal, at any position. That video of him skywalking way back when in his recruiting thread has had me dreaming on him ever since, and it just occurred to me you want players like that on the field at much as possible.
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Why wouldn't you want him returning punts?

The dropoff from Pettis to Fuller should be all anyone needs to know about the value of the position.

Don't play scared. Let your playmakers make plays.
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Sure, if he proves to be Pettis-esque at punt returning, that's a no brainier. But if he's JAGy at it, I'd rather put a much lower premium player in that role than what appears to be a generational athlete.
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Why would you expect a generational athlete to be JAGy at it?
 
How has using Kyler sparingly as a two way player not been considered?
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I think he's had some reps fielding punts.

You mean offense though I suppose. I'd rather they just find receivers with equal abilities. Nacua and McMillan, Pettis and Ross fit the mold. It's awful 2019 out here for 2020 or 2016 though, so maybe you have a legit question.
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The last place I'd want him is fielding punts, frankly.

And while I definitely agree with your sentiment of "just find real receivers" and generally think two way players are folly, I'm not sure there are many athletes that are Kyler's equal, at any position. That video of him skywalking way back when in his recruiting thread has had me dreaming on him ever since, and it just occurred to me you want players like that on the field at much as possible.
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Why wouldn't you want him returning punts?

The dropoff from Pettis to Fuller should be all anyone needs to know about the value of the position.

Don't play scared. Let your playmakers make plays.
Click to expand...

Sure, if he proves to be Pettis-esque at punt returning, that's a no brainier. But if he's JAGy at it, I'd rather put a much lower premium player in that role than what appears to be a generational athlete.
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Why would you expect a generational athlete to be JAGy at it?
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Because it's my default belief about any player regarding punt returning. It seems unpredictable bordering on unknowable what makes a good punt returner. Pete is supposed to be a punt return savant, and somehow Aaron "Fair Catch" Fuller was his enlightened selection?

I'll admit my initial response was flippant, especially in light of my started sentiment of getting him maximally on the field. But, unless he's a revelation at punt returning, even if he is marginally the best option, I think it would be better to risk Sean McGrew/Trey Lowe depth chart fodder.
 
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