How many coaches have left Washington for better jobs? How many have left Oregon

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This is a false equivalency - UW hasn’t had a coach perform well enough other than Pete to be wanted, and Pete quit on UW. Sark dipped on UW first chance he had. Would anyone really be surprised if Kalen performs well here, and in a few years if one of the better Big 10 jobs opens up he leaves?

durrr, thanks for getting it. Oregon has had a bunch of successful coaches, but don't forget kids, the run is now officially over! 4 Rose Bowel(or 2001 equivalent) wins from 4 coaches in 20 years at Oregon.

 

[creepycoug]

With the way it works now, you almost hope that there is a good amount of turnover.

"Stability on the coaching staff" has become the most overrated piece. Miami won NCs with 4 different coaches. I'm don't fall in love with coaches unless a Nick Saban comes along, then all bets are off.

 

[dtd]

With the way it works now, you almost hope that there is a good amount of turnover.

"Stability on the coaching staff" has become the most overrated piece. Miami won NCs with 4 different coaches. I'm don't fall in love with coaches unless a Nick Saban comes along, then all bets are off.

The continuity narrative is what got UW Owen and Oregon Mark Helfrich. It's only good if it's good.

 

[ntxduck]

This is some pretty serious coping

Not really. FSU and Miami poaching your coaches in less than a five year span is a serious black eye for Oregon. And despite his in-game coaching flaws, Mario was 3-0 against us and whooped our asses on the recruiting trail. So him getting poached is a fucking delight on both levels.

Taggart was for sure. A guy bouncing after one year with no connections to the school (fsu). Mario was always leaving Oregon for Miami. He’d have left Usc or Texas for Miami. This was known when he was hired. Hope he can make it work at Miami.

 

[RaceBannon]

As long as Husky fans understand that Kellen Deboner has no long lost love for Washington and if he starts out three and 0 next year UW will need to tear up the bargain contract and pay him 100 million for the final 9 games plus the post season

Its always about the money. Even Bama had to give Nick the ultimate escalation clause because Texas was SERIOUS about taking him

 

[creepycoug]

As long as Husky fans understand that Kellen Deboner has no long lost love for Washington and if he starts out three and 0 next year UW will need to tear up the bargain contract and pay him 100 million for the final 9 games plus the post season

Its always about the money. Even Bama had to give Nick the ultimate escalation clause because Texas was SERIOUS about taking him

Are you trying to tell me that these guys don't really, really like us? ?

 

[YellowSnow]

As long as Husky fans understand that Kellen Deboner has no long lost love for Washington and if he starts out three and 0 next year UW will need to tear up the bargain contract and pay him 100 million for the final 9 games plus the post season

Its always about the money. Even Bama had to give Nick the ultimate escalation clause because Texas was SERIOUS about taking him

If DeBoner wins the Pac in Year 1 you double his salary at a minimum.

We're getting the 1.5 years of MWC head coach experience, dealing in hypotheticals discounts.

If he proves his worth, pay the man his monies no questions asked.

 

[creepycoug]

Sark and Royal are the obvious ones, although Sark was very close to being fired [/b]and was going to be had he lost the 2013 AC. As always, Saint Haden did indeed work miracles.

James and Pete both got burned out and quit football instead of hopping. I'm not sure if that reflects better on UW honestly lol

There are few things that annoy me more than the fact that he slithered out of here like a victorious Roman general and that 99% of the country saw it that way. When I was at the RR Shootout this year, Sark came up and a much of Sooners (with whom I was at that game) said, "Hey, Creep, you? guys had Sark, what do you think." When I got to the part of "he was door ass out just before Pat Haden FS threw our? hail mary for us?" they all chuckled and clearly thought it was sour grapes.

It's just about the best escape job I've ever seen. Even now ... I know 3 or 4 of his former players, and they are loyal to him beyond belief. You'd be surprised how many Huskies from that era credit him for bringing Washington back damnit!

 

[dnc]

Sark and Royal are the obvious ones, although Sark was very close to being fired [/b]and was going to be had he lost the 2013 AC. As always, Saint Haden did indeed work miracles.

James and Pete both got burned out and quit football instead of hopping. I'm not sure if that reflects better on UW honestly lol

There are few things that annoy me more than the fact that he slithered out of here like a victorious Roman general and that 99% of the country saw it that way. When I was at the RR Shootout this year, Sark came up and a much of Sooners (with whom I was at that game) said, "Hey, Creep, you? guys had Sark, what do you think." When I got to the part of "he was door ass out just before Pat Haden FS threw our? hail mary for us?" they all chuckled and clearly thought it was sour grapes.

It's just about the best escape job I've ever seen. Even now ... I know 3 or 4 of his former players, and they are loyal to him beyond belief. You'd be surprised how many Huskies from that era credit him for bringing Washington back damnit!

The gap between perception and reality has never been greater with anyone in history than Steve Sarkisian.

That dude is either a master manipulator, chincredibly lucky or probably both.

 

[Motown]

So are we making an argument for why oregon is the better job? You are telling me you can be a mediocre coach and get paid because of the Oregon brand and the leverage that job to get your actual dream job and get paid again ?
Vs washington is so prestigious that it very may be the very last place you coach because the job is too stressful (Peterman), or the athletic department is so incompetent that guys like ty willingham and Jimmy lake were hired and were proven so bad they will never head coach ever again!

Washington should be a desired destination job. But your hires might very well stay content that they've made it and stop you know , actually doing the job that got them there ..like recruiting.

 

[creepycoug]

So are we making an argument for why oregon is the better job? You are telling me you can be a mediocre coach and get paid because of the Oregon brand and the leverage that job to get your actual dream job and get paid again ?
Vs washington is so prestigious that it very may be the very last place you coach because the job is too stressful (Peterman), [/b]or the athletic department is so incompetent that guys like ty willingham and Jimmy lake were hired and were proven so bad they will never head coach ever again!

Washington should be a desired destination job. But your hires might very well stay content that they've made it and stop you know , actually doing the job that got them there ..like recruiting.

Not sure I've seen anyone doog that far. Try www.dogman.com.

 

[gmo]

This is a false equivalency - UW hasn’t had a coach perform well enough other than Pete to be wanted, and Pete quit on UW. Sark dipped on UW first chance he had. Would anyone really be surprised if Kalen performs well here, and in a few years if one of the better Big 10 jobs opens up he leaves?

If he performs well I'd be surprised if he left. I think DeBoer wants to win championships and if he is capable of that he is capable of doing that at UW. If he shows that potential then his road to a championship is probably easier here at that point than whoever his suitors are. Sure, maybe he is clearly really good next year and Ryan Day is in a plane crash and there is a risk to us. Otherwise if he is the guy he can set himself up here and achieve his goals.

Also 81% chance Jen disappears his wife and steps in to fill the void, thus locking him in[/b].

that's next level recruiting right there. "Let's go get a hubby".

 

[Motown]

So are we making an argument for why oregon is the better job? You are telling me you can be a mediocre coach and get paid because of the Oregon brand and the leverage that job to get your actual dream job and get paid again ?
Vs washington is so prestigious that it very may be the very last place you coach because the job is too stressful (Peterman), [/b]or the athletic department is so incompetent that guys like ty willingham and Jimmy lake were hired and were proven so bad they will never head coach ever again!

Washington should be a desired destination job. But your hires might very well stay content that they've made it and stop you know , actually doing the job that got them there ..like recruiting.

Not sure I've seen anyone doog that far. Try www.dogman.com.

Sorry the sarcasm font wasn't working, but then again context might have informed you that dawgs aren't getting the best coaches

 

[MikeSeaver]

This is some pretty serious coping

Not really. FSU and Miami poaching your coaches in less than a five year span is a serious black eye for Oregon. And despite his in-game coaching flaws, Mario was 3-0 against us and whooped our asses on the recruiting trail. So him getting poached is a fucking delight on both levels.

How is it a black eye? Two Florida guys left for Florida. Nobody outside of Oregon, Florida and Washington even knows this is happening.

 

[creepycoug]

So are we making an argument for why oregon is the better job? You are telling me you can be a mediocre coach and get paid because of the Oregon brand and the leverage that job to get your actual dream job and get paid again ?
Vs washington is so prestigious that it very may be the very last place you coach because the job is too stressful (Peterman), [/b]or the athletic department is so incompetent that guys like ty willingham and Jimmy lake were hired and were proven so bad they will never head coach ever again!

Washington should be a desired destination job. But your hires might very well stay content that they've made it and stop you know , actually doing the job that got them there ..like recruiting.

Not sure I've seen anyone doog that far. Try www.dogman.com.

Sorry the sarcasm font wasn't working, but then again context might have informed you that dawgs aren't getting the best coaches

It's not the first one I've missed; it won't be the last.

 

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

Sark and Royal are the obvious ones, although Sark was very close to being fired [/b]and was going to be had he lost the 2013 AC. As always, Saint Haden did indeed work miracles.

James and Pete both got burned out and quit football instead of hopping. I'm not sure if that reflects better on UW honestly lol

There are few things that annoy me more than the fact that he slithered out of here like a victorious Roman general and that 99% of the country saw it that way. When I was at the RR Shootout this year, Sark came up and a much of Sooners (with whom I was at that game) said, "Hey, Creep, you? guys had Sark, what do you think." When I got to the part of "he was door ass out just before Pat Haden FS threw our? hail mary for us?" they all chuckled and clearly thought it was sour grapes.

It's just about the best escape job I've ever seen. Even now ... I know 3 or 4 of his former players, and they are loyal to him beyond belief. You'd be surprised how many Huskies from that era credit him for bringing Washington back damnit!

The gap between perception and reality has never been greater with anyone in history than Steve Sarkisian.

That dude is either a master manipulator, chincredibly lucky or probably both.

Ty Willingham’s Rose Bowl victories disagree.

That said, Sarks perception vs reality casts a far wider net.

 

[greenblood]

This is some pretty serious coping

Not really. FSU and Miami poaching your coaches in less than a five year span is a serious black eye for Oregon. And despite his in-game coaching flaws, Mario was 3-0 against us and whooped our asses on the recruiting trail. So him getting poached is a fucking delight on both levels.

I don’t know. This last hire from Grocery Outlet I don’t think is going to work out for you. But good luck the rest of the way.

 

[pawz]

Washington:

Gil Dobie to Navy
Darrell Royal to Texas
Seven to USC

I thought Suzzzalo fired Gloomy Gil?

I can't find it now (actually I'm not going to look) but I know I read in the last month an account that he quit as a protest a la James. Suzzallo suspended one of his players for a championship game.

Suzzallo didn't get along to be sure, but he left on his own accord. He didn't tell anyone until the last game.

I'm sure I'm sure I'm butchering the details.

I seem to recall it was a Royal Brougham article?

 

[pawz]

As long as Husky fans understand that Kellen Deboner has no long lost love for Washington and if he starts out three and 0 next year UW will need to tear up the bargain contract and pay him 100 million for the final 9 games plus the post season

Its always about the money. Even Bama had to give Nick the ultimate escalation clause because Texas was SERIOUS about taking him

If DeBoner wins the Pac in Year 1 you double his salary at a minimum.

We're getting the 1.5 years of MWC head coach experience, dealing in hypotheticals discounts.

If he proves his worth, pay the man his monies no questions asked[/i][/b].

BUT HE HAS A CONTRACT!!! 1!!

@MikeDamone

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Washington:

Gil Dobie to Navy
Darrell Royal to Texas
Seven to USC

I thought Suzzzalo fired Gloomy Gil?

I can't find it now (actually I'm not going to look) but I know I read in the last month an account that he quit as a protest a la James. Suzzallo suspended one of his players for a championship game.

Suzzallo didn't get along to be sure, but he left on his own accord. He didn't tell anyone until the last game.

I'm sure I'm sure I'm butchering the details.

I seem to recall it was a Royal Brougham article?

Suzzallo forced him out IIRC. I have the book somewhere around here. Went onto continue to be a juggernaut coach even afterwards. Dumbest shit ever.