Hey Kim, zona is #12 witb 2 and 3* talent

[KenND]

I don't recall Chris Izbicki ever being a 5* and his final scout rating was a 4* (which was clearly pushing it too).
http://washington.scout.com/a.z?s=147&p=8&c=1&nid=2329304

Kavario Middleton was the only 5* Tyrone ever got.

It wouldn't surprise me if they retroactively changed Izbicki to a 4-star a year or more after that recruiting cycle. They used to get crap from people about that on the old Dawgman boards, and I am 100% sure that the top for TEs that year were 5-stars. They had him rated right behind Rob Gronkowski. Holy shit.

He was downgraded to a 4 star long before signing day.

Conspiracy theories are fun, but you're full of shit.

Settle down. I didn't say that it happened, just that it wouldn't surprise me if they did. I've seen guys lose stars and change to NR after recruiting is over. Either way, I stand by my opinion that Izbicki was only rated what he was to try and hype up UW's recruiting.

I'm calling bullshit.

And Izbicki was the #11 TE on ESPN and #13 on Rivals, while #4 on Scout. Four star recruit by all three services. If you follow recruiting at all, and you clearly do, you know that there is a much wider disparity between services on tons of recruits every year. Your conspiracy theory is just as fucking stupid now as it was then.

You can call bullshit all that you'd like. Any example that I'd give to you would be a ND player, and I highly doubt that you'd be familiar enough with where a ND player was ranked years ago for it to be convincing to you, so I'm not going to waste my time.

As far as the other stuff goes, it seems like everyone here but you knows that Scout inflates rankings for NW and Western recruits.

 

[MikeDamone]

One thing about recruiting is you can't teach size or speed.

If someone sucks dick on the field, that's concerning but it might not be the end of the world because that's something you can coach. Put them in the weight room every day for 2-3 years and let them see the field as a RS-soph or RS-Jr once they're ready. And if they're never ready, run them out of the program like Sark did.

Not everyone needs to be a Jake Locker or Budda Baker. It'd be nice if they were, but it's not completely necessary.

Saying you can't teach speed is 100% bullshit.

 

[MisterEm]

One thing about recruiting is you can't teach size or speed.

If someone sucks dick on the field, that's concerning but it might not be the end of the world because that's something you can coach. Put them in the weight room every day for 2-3 years and let them see the field as a RS-soph or RS-Jr once they're ready. And if they're never ready, run them out of the program like Sark did.

Not everyone needs to be a Jake Locker or Budda Baker. It'd be nice if they were, but it's not completely necessary.

Saying you can't teach speed is 100% bullshit.

Kasen says hello, allegedly.

 

[whatshouldicareabout]

One thing about recruiting is you can't teach size or speed.

If someone sucks dick on the field, that's concerning but it might not be the end of the world because that's something you can coach. Put them in the weight room every day for 2-3 years and let them see the field as a RS-soph or RS-Jr once they're ready. And if they're never ready, run them out of the program like Sark did.

Not everyone needs to be a Jake Locker or Budda Baker. It'd be nice if they were, but it's not completely necessary.

Saying you can't teach speed is 100% bullshit.

Proof?

 

[KenND]

One thing about recruiting is you can't teach size or speed.

If someone sucks dick on the field, that's concerning but it might not be the end of the world because that's something you can coach. Put them in the weight room every day for 2-3 years and let them see the field as a RS-soph or RS-Jr once they're ready. And if they're never ready, run them out of the program like Sark did.

Not everyone needs to be a Jake Locker or Budda Baker. It'd be nice if they were, but it's not completely necessary.

Saying you can't teach speed is 100% bullshit.

Proof?

Underwater treadmills?

 

[MisterEm]

Frank Gore is all I got. (Post surgery of course)

 

[bananasnblondes]

Once upon a time, before Scooot hired Biggins, F3 was actually their Northwest recrooting analrapist. He up-rated a bunch of Seattle kids, which made people on eQuook start the "King County All Stars" meme. Once Scooot hired people that had some idea of how football works, F3 went back to some bullshit made-up job at doogman. But yeah, back when F3 was involved in the process, he definitely overrated a bunch of NW guys.

Ahhh the Chris Fetters Seattle All-Star team:
Chris Izbicki
Quinton Richardson
Vonzell McDowell
Cody Bruns