I recall Chest used to say that you needed to be above 3.5 on the per player star average to have truly elite classes...and that we usually had 3.2-3.3 classes but just stuffed 30 bodies in them during the Sark years to inflate the class to top 20. I'm not sure if he is right, but his logic always made sense to me. Interesting to see if we have a high per player average when all the dust settles. Do punters count in that?