Hardcore Husky Podcast: The Fisch Era has jumped the Shark

[HFNY]

I don't want him fired, at least now, but the Wisconsin loss was much more troubling because they were coming off a bye. What's worse is that the offense showed no creativity and scored ZERO points after the half…for supposed offensive gurus (Fisch / Dougherty), that's a pretty big indictment.
The long field goal was questionable too and then was blocked.
The punter sucks too and shanks too many balls. Can't they find a better guy than him? It doesn't matter if he punts 70 yards in practice if he usually shanks 35 yarders when the lights come on.
Bottom line is that in my humble opinion, he's not the guy. Very good recruiter and can assemble a good staff but he's not the right head coach for UW. I'll gladly eat my words if he wins out but I don't think he will.

 

[BarbarasHedge]

We've scored I think 14 points in the last 6 first quarters.
Totally unacceptable. Getting behind the 8 ball like that every game is a huge part of why we keep struggling

 

[flatus]

Stalin's former boss on the other site has some thoughts

"Losing sucks. The worst part about is listening to those who seem to enjoy the losses more than celebrating the wins. The mental gymnastics some perform to be the smartest guy in the room is amazing at times. And the over the top emotional fans who are so over the top, it’s embarrassing. Fire the coach. Bring in the backup. They’ll never win another game."

Redacted last sentence:
"Boastfully sit in the first seat behind first class. You'll be a loser for life."

 

[DerekJohnson]

I don't want him fired, at least now, but the Wisconsin loss was much more troubling because they were coming off a bye. What's worse is that the offense showed no creativity and scored ZERO points after the half…for supposed offensive gurus (Fisch / Dougherty), that's a pretty big indictment.
The long field goal was questionable too and then was blocked.
The punter sucks too and shanks too many balls. Can't they find a better guy than him? It doesn't matter if he punts 70 yards in practice if he usually shanks 35 yarders when the lights come on.
Bottom line is that in my humble opinion, he's not the guy. Very good recruiter and can assemble a good staff but he's not the right head coach for UW. I'll gladly eat my words if he wins out but I don't think he will.

You don't think he's the guy, but you also don't want him fired?

 

[dtd]

I kept trying to convince myself Judd could be at least a guy in some capacity. He's not. I don't think he's terrible, but I think he's just okay AND has his eyes around, wasting time and energy and focus trying to get an extension and flirting with a shitty job in the middle of a golden opportunity season.
Worst part is this schedule is so gifted we could have had a fake big season and we are also squandering a chance to beat a flawed Oregon team in Seattle.

When you put it this way, Judd must be absolutely distraught …
He had his golden opportunity here to "double pop" (AZ & again at UW) and it would have happened RIGHT when his dream job came open down in Gainesville!
He blew this bigly.

The question is, do the Arizona Cardinals or LV Raiders come calling? If he finishes 8-4 (with the win @ UCLA being key, never easy for UW for some reason), he can sell that he is a builder once he has his QB in there.

 

[NeGgaPlEaSe]

Use Mohammed and Coleman in more dual sets, because Mohammed can thump would-be tacklers very hard.

Use Mohammed or a TE as a FB more often..line them up as a WR that motions inside to block for Coleman..because Coleman is not escaping the first and second tacklers right now.

should have went more Jim Harbaugh against them and used a few O-Linemen as tight ends

Too much finesse from Fisch. These lines aren't good enough…they're getting pushed around.

His late offensive scoring starts suggest that the offense is not prepared enough for what to expect from the other team's defense enough.

The OL was the worst part of yesterday's game. They were pushed back too far every play. He needs to buy 2-3 OLs in the portal for next year.

Demond was panicking too much. He needs better outlets when things are breaking down in the offense. Otherwise Fisch's offense scores ZERO TDs. His deep balls were horrible yesterday.
Maybe add more 2-3 flea-flicker type style runs and passes a game for Demond???

Fisch needs to hire a real DL assistant coach who can recruit. Fisch needs to buy 2 legit DTs and 2 DEs in the portal. The lack of depth is obvious on the DL. Otherwise, expect 7-5 to 8-4 every year.

Demond absolutely needs to learn to do some pooch punts…it worked great when Browning used to do it. The punting is terrible. More pooch punts near midfield from the UW QBs. Every UW QB should be able to do that at least a handful of times a year.

he should have already hired in some capacity Ikaika Malloe

 

[YellowSnow]

I can't believe I didn't get a Perrier with Electrolytes shout out from @DerekJohnson at the start of the pod.
Agree with @joey about being strangely at peace with Fisch probably not being the guy. Beating UCLA and Oregon might change my mind.

 

[RoadDawg55]

I can't believe I didn't get a Perrier with Electrolytes shout out from @DerekJohnson at the start of the pod.
Agree with @joey about being strangely at peace with Fisch probably not being the guy. Beating UCLA and Oregon might change my mind.

Everyone would be thinking Fisch is the guy if next year is a playoff appearance. Nobody gave a fuck about 2014 and 2015 when Pete made the final 4 in 2016. By 2019 many were sick of Petersen.

I’m sure many Clemson fans would be happy if Dabo was forced out and he’s won two titles and had a couple other runner ups. Alabama wanted Deboer gone two months ago, but now are thinking natty.

The week to week dramatics are what make college football great. Every loss is the end of the world.

 

[YellowSnow]

I can't believe I didn't get a Perrier with Electrolytes shout out from @DerekJohnson at the start of the pod.
Agree with @joey about being strangely at peace with Fisch probably not being the guy. Beating UCLA and Oregon might change my mind.

Everyone would be thinking Fisch is the guy if next year is a playoff appearance. Nobody gave a fuck about 2014 and 2015 when Pete made the final 4 in 2016. By 2019 many were sick of Petersen.

I’m sure many Clemson fans would be happy if Dabo was forced out and he’s won two titles and had a couple other runner ups. Alabama wanted Deboer gone two months ago, but now are thinking natty.

The week to week dramatics are what make college football great. Every loss is the end of the world.

I was frustrated with the slow progress with Pete in Year 1 and 2, but that guy came into the role with about as good of resume as possible. And by the end of year 2 you could see the vision taking hold with optimism going into Year 3.
Fisch isn't the same proven commodity and has some Sarkish vibes at times. If we finish 7-5 (4-5) - which is still very much on the table - this would be pretty disappointing and not a lot of optimism heading in year 3.
As much as we liked to shit talk @RaceBannon on Year 1 DeBoer, I think it would have been silly for Alabama to not give the guy, at least, 2 full seasons to get his reads down. His pre Bammer resume merited it.

 

[TheHB]

I can't believe I didn't get a Perrier with Electrolytes shout out from @DerekJohnson at the start of the pod.
Agree with @joey about being strangely at peace with Fisch probably not being the guy. Beating UCLA and Oregon might change my mind.

Everyone would be thinking Fisch is the guy if next year is a playoff appearance. Nobody gave a fuck about 2014 and 2015 when Pete made the final 4 in 2016. By 2019 many were sick of Petersen.

I’m sure many Clemson fans would be happy if Dabo was forced out and he’s won two titles and had a couple other runner ups. Alabama wanted Deboer gone two months ago, but now are thinking natty.

The week to week dramatics are what make college football great. Every loss is the end of the world.

You make good points.
But I have seen absolutely nothing in the 22 games Fisch has coached at UW that scream big improvement. His offense is still retarded. He can’t win games on the road that he should. His teams continue to look unprepared—even after byes, which is unforgivable. On top of all that, he’s an idiot at playing the “how to get an extension” game.
I’ve seen more than enough.

 

[WoolleyDoog]

It's a much different time in college football than 10 years ago. We joke about needing more Tim but we were all good with giving Petersen 3-4 years, especially because there were talent/experience gaps those first two years you couldn't do anything about back then.
I am a recorded negadoog but I thought Pete would clearly be the guy in 2015 if he got that team to even just a bowl, and he did.
Fisch in absolutely no way had the leverage to publicly come off like he was flirting with another job or even strong-arming an extension at this point with what he has done at Washington. Then when you go out and lose an embarrassing game, well here we are.
Plus, his calling card is the weakness of the team and lacking improvement year over year.

 

[Joey]

I can't believe I didn't get a Perrier with Electrolytes shout out from @DerekJohnson at the start of the pod.
Agree with @joey about being strangely at peace with Fisch probably not being the guy. Beating UCLA and Oregon might change my mind.

Everyone would be thinking Fisch is the guy if next year is a playoff appearance. Nobody gave a fuck about 2014 and 2015 when Pete made the final 4 in 2016. By 2019 many were sick of Petersen.

I’m sure many Clemson fans would be happy if Dabo was forced out and he’s won two titles and had a couple other runner ups. Alabama wanted Deboer gone two months ago, but now are thinking natty.

The week to week dramatics are what make college football great. Every loss is the end of the world.

I hope you’re right then

 

[HFNY]

I don't want him fired, at least now, but the Wisconsin loss was much more troubling because they were coming off a bye. What's worse is that the offense showed no creativity and scored ZERO points after the half…for supposed offensive gurus (Fisch / Dougherty), that's a pretty big indictment.
The long field goal was questionable too and then was blocked.
The punter sucks too and shanks too many balls. Can't they find a better guy than him? It doesn't matter if he punts 70 yards in practice if he usually shanks 35 yarders when the lights come on.
Bottom line is that in my humble opinion, he's not the guy. Very good recruiter and can assemble a good staff but he's not the right head coach for UW. I'll gladly eat my words if he wins out but I don't think he will.

You don't think he's the guy, but you also don't want him fired?

I should have been clearer. I don't think he's the guy to win a conference championship at UW but that doesn't mean I want him fired after Year 2.
The way I see it now (and it easily could be with @GrandpaSankey eyes), he doesn't win the conference in 2026 or 2027 but gets UW into the playoffs, loses in the 1st round, and then leaves for the NFL.
In the meantime, he and a good recruiting staff build up the talent and depth that was obliterated by DeBoer leaving.

 

[DerekJohnson]

I can't believe I didn't get a Perrier with Electrolytes shout out from @DerekJohnson at the start of the pod.
Agree with @joey about being strangely at peace with Fisch probably not being the guy. Beating UCLA and Oregon might change my mind.

Everyone would be thinking Fisch is the guy if next year is a playoff appearance. Nobody gave a fuck about 2014 and 2015 when Pete made the final 4 in 2016. By 2019 many were sick of Petersen.

I’m sure many Clemson fans would be happy if Dabo was forced out and he’s won two titles and had a couple other runner ups. Alabama wanted Deboer gone two months ago, but now are thinking natty.

The week to week dramatics are what make college football great. Every loss is the end of the world.

I was frustrated with the slow progress with Pete in Year 1 and 2, but that guy came into the role with about as good of resume as possible. And by the end of year 2 you could see the vision taking hold with optimism going into Year 3.
Fisch isn't the same proven commodity and has some Sarkish vibes at times. If we finish 7-5 (4-5) - which is still very much on the table - this would be pretty disappointing and not a lot of optimism heading in year 3.
As much as we liked to shit talk @RaceBannon on Year 1 DeBoer, I think it would have been silly for Alabama to not give the guy, at least, 2 full seasons to get his reads down. His pre Bammer resume merited it.

Pup and Steel2 were the only two posters to stand by Petersen in years one and two.
YoBates and The Fire Marshall came on board in years three and four.
Now dipshits like Yellow Snow "knew it all along." You stupid fuck

 

[bananasnblondes]

The big difference between the Petersen situation and Fisch is the transfer portal. If you want to catch up to the big boys, the portal is your route to do that. Fisch has been abysmal in that regard.
-He whiffed on getting a bunch of the Arizona guys (they chose to stay at Zona and play for a limp-dick coach rather than transfer to UW)
-As was mentioned on the pod, there was a lot wrong with last years team but far and away, the biggest issue was the offensive line. He did, imo, below the bare minimum in addressing that issue through the portal. Took one guy (Willis) who other teams actually wanted and then said "we're good"

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

Dickert was not well liked by either the players or the alums at WSU. You think Jedd is a used car salesman, Dickert is the finance manager selling TruCoat.
Pass.

Good to know, thanks.
What about Dan Mullen at UNLV or Spencer Danielson of BSU? Eric Morris of North Texas recruited and coached Cam Ward to WSU in 2022 and has a very nice coaching record.

Eck. The whole Eck and nothing but the Eck.

He is a Wisconsin alumni and is probably getting hired there when Fickell doesnt work out

 

[Joey]

Dickert was not well liked by either the players or the alums at WSU. You think Jedd is a used car salesman, Dickert is the finance manager selling TruCoat.
Pass.

Good to know, thanks.
What about Dan Mullen at UNLV or Spencer Danielson of BSU? Eric Morris of North Texas recruited and coached Cam Ward to WSU in 2022 and has a very nice coaching record.

Eck. The whole Eck and nothing but the Eck.

He is a Wisconsin alumni and is probably getting hired there when Fickell doesnt work out

Or Sean Lewis

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

The big difference between the Petersen situation and Fisch is the transfer portal. If you want to catch up to the big boys, the portal is your route to do that. Fisch has been abysmal in that regard.
-He whiffed on getting a bunch of the Arizona guys (they chose to stay at Zona and play for a limp-dick coach rather than transfer to UW)
-As was mentioned on the pod, there was a lot wrong with last years team but far and away, the biggest issue was the offensive line. He did, imo, below the bare minimum in addressing that issue through the portal. Took one guy (Willis) who other teams actually wanted and then said "we're good"

The biggest issue with Fisch is that his team has gone 15 quarters in big games without doing anything on offense.
Ohio State, Michigan, greased undefeated Maryland pre collapse, 2-6 Wisconsin.
Outside one fever dream quarter at Maryland, this offense has shit the bed in every adverse situation.
Meanwhile you have Eck in his first fucking year at UNM putting up 17 @ Michigan.
I think Fisch is a decent roster evaluator, recruiter, and CEO.
I think he is fucking horrific at preparing the offense and calling plays, but that is what he seems to hang his hat on. And that is the problem.
Playoffs or fired next year. But UW doesnt have the balls to fire him. So we better hope for playoffs with a seemingly easy schedule.

 

[RaceBannon]

I think Fisch is a decent roster evaluator, recruiter, and CEO.
Based on what? The bad roster, lack of talent in key areas and his inability to delegate something like his shit playcalling?
He's a fraud

 

[Joey]

I think Fisch is a decent roster evaluator, recruiter, and CEO.
Based on what? The bad roster, lack of talent in key areas and his inability to delegate something like his shit playcalling?
He's a fraud

He’s smart enough to not stay long enough to fail