Hardcore Husky Podcast: Canaries in the Coal Mine

[haie]

It's true, a top 4 of a real western conference based on size of fanbases would be Oregon, UW, Utah, and BYU.
A complete bursting of the TV bubble would give Utah and/or BYU the excuse they need to go beg the B1G, after which the national conference thing is already out of the bag and it would make too much sense if you're getting them for nothing. A B1G division of those 6 schools would feel a lot like the old Pac 12.

 

[YellowSnow]

I like to hope it happens but I am not optimistic about a west coast football conference coming back in reality. UCLA should be the second or third best program out west and they have barely been even above average more than a few years the past 25. Stanford had national title contending teams and couldn’t fill a small stadium. I don’t know if anyone in LA other than 97 year olds and a few Orange County flat billers give two shits about USC even if they came back. BYU might be few viable programs out west outside of Washington and Oregon.

@RaceBannon 's beloved NYD 1985 ain't walking back in the door anytime soon.
This was the first HCH pod I've listened to a while and it seems the college football apathy has taken hold in so many of us.

 

[haie]

Washington won a Sugar Bowl trophy and made it to a national title game. That just walked through the door 2 seasons ago.
Fuck the West Coast, those fags cry about us no matter if we win 0 games or 14.

 

[YellowSnow]

Washington won a Sugar Bowl trophy and made it to a national title game. That just walked through the door 2 seasons ago.
Fuck the West Coast, those fags cry about us no matter if we win 0 games or 14.

You're missing the point. NYD 1985 was the peak of the Pac-10 being the SEC of college football.
UCLA beat @creepycoug in the Fiesta.
Washington beat Oklahoma in the Orange.
USC beat Ohio State in the Rose Bowl.
I'd go back to that era in a heartbeat.

 

[haie]

Washington won a Sugar Bowl trophy and made it to a national title game. That just walked through the door 2 seasons ago.
Fuck the West Coast, those fags cry about us no matter if we win 0 games or 14.

You're missing the point. NYD 1985 was the peak of the Pac-10 being the SEC of college football.
UCLA beat @creepycoug in the Fiesta.
Washington beat Oklahoma in the Orange.
USC beat Ohio State in the Rose Bowl.
I'd go back to that era in a heartbeat.

Dude we JUST took the SEC's trophy from their current top program. 2-0 against them in fact
Were you in New Orleans?
San Antonio?
There's Texas fans that would read this and think we're just a straight broken fanbase.

 

[Southerndawg]

Washington won a Sugar Bowl trophy and made it to a national title game. That just walked through the door 2 seasons ago.
Fuck the West Coast, those fags cry about us no matter if we win 0 games or 14.

You're missing the point. NYD 1985 was the peak of the Pac-10 being the SEC of college football.
UCLA beat @creepycoug in the Fiesta.
Washington beat Oklahoma in the Orange.
USC beat Ohio State in the Rose Bowl.
I'd go back to that era in a heartbeat.

Agree. 100%. Even though I hate that faggy term 100%, it applies here.

 

[DerekJohnson]

Washington won a Sugar Bowl trophy and made it to a national title game. That just walked through the door 2 seasons ago.
Fuck the West Coast, those fags cry about us no matter if we win 0 games or 14.

You're missing the point. NYD 1985 was the peak of the Pac-10 being the SEC of college football.
UCLA beat @creepycoug in the Fiesta.
Washington beat Oklahoma in the Orange.
USC beat Ohio State in the Rose Bowl.
I'd go back to that era in a heartbeat.

Agree. 100%. Even though I hate that faggy term 100%, it applies here.

You could always use the criminally underused "+1"

 

[YellowSnow]

Washington won a Sugar Bowl trophy and made it to a national title game. That just walked through the door 2 seasons ago.
Fuck the West Coast, those fags cry about us no matter if we win 0 games or 14.

You're missing the point. NYD 1985 was the peak of the Pac-10 being the SEC of college football.
UCLA beat @creepycoug in the Fiesta.
Washington beat Oklahoma in the Orange.
USC beat Ohio State in the Rose Bowl.
I'd go back to that era in a heartbeat.

Dude we JUST took the SEC's trophy from their current top program. 2-0 against them in fact
Were you in New Orleans?
San Antonio?
There's Texas fans that would read this and think we're just a straight broken fanbase.

No, I wasn't in New Orleans. Mrs Snow decided to book a 2 week holiday in Australia for our family w/o understanding the imminent BPE 14-0 storybook season. Home against Oregon was my only in person 2023 game.
I'm hesitant call Texas the class of the SEC just yet. Sark is still their coach after all.
I understand and appreciate how much fun and great the 2023 team was but that was eons ago and a different era of college football entirely.

 

[WoolleyDoog]

Put things back together a bit under Judd this year and next and we should be back on board. I don't think the magic of 2023 will ever be brought back but even this year we have a nice nucleus of guys who have been around for a while and very few transferred out this offseason. As much as we shit on the expanded playoff and Big 10 too I think there will be a new excitement generated if we can actually be relevant in those things the next couple of years.

 

[haie]

Eons ago you mean when our newly hired coach was going around poaching quarterbacks he knew were great from lesser programs? Then when he knew he had a stacked team he went after Mud Dawg U's stud back the next year?
And we had to beat a 9 year veteran quarterback in our biggest games?

 

[YellowSnow]

Eons ago you mean when our newly hired coach was going around poaching quarterbacks he knew were great from lesser programs? Then when he knew he had a stacked team he went after Mud Dawg U's stud back the next year?
And we had to beat a 9 year veteran quarterback in our biggest games?

Most of the key impact players on the 2023 squad with the exception on BPE and Mud Dawg stud back were Pete and Jimmy recruits who had been at UW their entire careers (coming in pre pro CFP). That seems like a bygone era to me.
It's not QBs didn't transfer to other schools back in the old days- e.g, Aikman to UCLA or a Warren Moon/Aaron Rodgers type coming up from the JC ranks. The BPE transfer never felt to me like it was driven by the portal mess.

 

[WoolleyDoog]

Eons ago you mean when our newly hired coach was going around poaching quarterbacks he knew were great from lesser programs? Then when he knew he had a stacked team he went after Mud Dawg U's stud back the next year?
And we had to beat a 9 year veteran quarterback in our biggest games?

Most of the key impact players on the 2023 squad with the exception on BPE and Mud Dawg stud back were Pete and Jimmy recruits who had been at UW their entire careers (coming in pre pro CFP). That seems like a bygone era to me.
It's not QBs didn't transfer to other schools back in the old days- e.g, Aikman to UCLA or a Warren Moon/Aaron Rodgers type coming up from the JC ranks. The BPE transfer never felt to me like it was driven by the portal mess.

Only a few other important players were portal guys and even most of those were kind of unique - Polk (but had been on the team since 2021), Bernard (weird, he came back to his first school), Muhammad (mercenary). Not many key guys for a team in 2023. If anything, looking back they could have benefitted from going harder, especially at DT.

 

[BleachedAnusDawg]

Eons ago you mean when our newly hired coach was going around poaching quarterbacks he knew were great from lesser programs? Then when he knew he had a stacked team he went after Mud Dawg U's stud back the next year?
And we had to beat a 9 year veteran quarterback in our biggest games?

Most of the key impact players on the 2023 squad with the exception on BPE and Mud Dawg stud back were Pete and Jimmy recruits who had been at UW their entire careers (coming in pre pro CFP). That seems like a bygone era to me.
It's not QBs didn't transfer to other schools back in the old days- e.g, Aikman to UCLA or a Warren Moon/Aaron Rodgers type coming up from the JC ranks. The BPE transfer never felt to me like it was driven by the portal mess.

Agree that Penix was the "old way" of transferring. Dude was hurt constantly and looking for a new place to call home. UW didn't hire him away from Indiana.

 

[YellowSnow]

Eons ago you mean when our newly hired coach was going around poaching quarterbacks he knew were great from lesser programs? Then when he knew he had a stacked team he went after Mud Dawg U's stud back the next year?
And we had to beat a 9 year veteran quarterback in our biggest games?

Most of the key impact players on the 2023 squad with the exception on BPE and Mud Dawg stud back were Pete and Jimmy recruits who had been at UW their entire careers (coming in pre pro CFP). That seems like a bygone era to me.
It's not QBs didn't transfer to other schools back in the old days- e.g, Aikman to UCLA or a Warren Moon/Aaron Rodgers type coming up from the JC ranks. The BPE transfer never felt to me like it was driven by the portal mess.

Only a few other important players were portal guys and even most of those were kind of unique - Polk (but had been on the team since 2021), Bernard (weird, he came back to his first school), Muhammad (mercenary). Not many key guys for a team in 2023. If anything, looking back they could have benefitted from going harder, especially at DT.

I could also easily name more than 10 players on the 2023 roster heading into the season.

 

[theknowledge]

Eons ago you mean when our newly hired coach was going around poaching quarterbacks he knew were great from lesser programs? Then when he knew he had a stacked team he went after Mud Dawg U's stud back the next year?
And we had to beat a 9 year veteran quarterback in our biggest games?

Most of the key impact players on the 2023 squad with the exception on BPE and Mud Dawg stud back were Pete and Jimmy recruits who had been at UW their entire careers (coming in pre pro CFP). That seems like a bygone era to me.
It's not QBs didn't transfer to other schools back in the old days- e.g, Aikman to UCLA or a Warren Moon/Aaron Rodgers type coming up from the JC ranks. The BPE transfer never felt to me like it was driven by the portal mess.

Only a few other important players were portal guys and even most of those were kind of unique - Polk (but had been on the team since 2021), Bernard (weird, he came back to his first school), Muhammad (mercenary). Not many key guys for a team in 2023. If anything, looking back they could have benefitted from going harder, especially at DT.

I could also easily name more than 10 players on the 2023 roster heading into the season.

Zach Durfee-KDB
Jacob Lane-KDB
Devin Bryant-KDB
Ephe Loadsock-Fish
Taco Davis-Fish
Elineus Davis-KDB
Omar Kahn-KDB/Fish
Denzel Boston-Lake
Raiden Vines-Bright-Fish
Demond Williams-Fish
Landon Hatchett-KDB
Geiren Hatchett-Pete
Paki Finau-KDB/Fish
John Mills-Fish
Decker DeGraff-KDB/Fish
Jonah Coleman-Fish
Adam Muhammad-Fish
Quentin Moore-Lake
Not super hard to name 10. Not a ton of Lake guys left because most flamed out or quit football and not a ton of DeBoer guys because there were a lot of knuckleheads and rapists that were dismissed. The vast majority of Fish recruits are too young to make a huge impact yet but they seem like they all love playing for him and a few are ready to contribute. Half of UWs roster is freshman or redshirt freshman. After this season the portal stuff should mellow back out to 5-8 guys a year like it did eons ago in 2022 and 2023.

 

[whlinder]

I listened.

One of yall said something about Germie Bernard, I think maybe in the context of us not really losing too many talented players to Bama (other than Brailsford).

One of the ESPN hacks mocked him as a first rounder next year.

And yes airplanes are full and the only way that changes is if the economy tanks.

 

[DerekJohnson]

I listened.

One of yall said something about Germie Bernard, I think maybe in the context of us not really losing too many talented players to Bama (other than Brailsford).

One of the ESPN hacks mocked him as a first rounder next year.

And yes airplanes are full and the only way that changes is if the economy tanks.

I brought him up. I still think it's a shame he left here. He can still be special

 

[theknowledge]

I listened.

One of yall said something about Germie Bernard, I think maybe in the context of us not really losing too many talented players to Bama (other than Brailsford).

One of the ESPN hacks mocked him as a first rounder next year.

And yes airplanes are full and the only way that changes is if the economy tanks.

I brought him up. I still think it's a shame he left here. He can still be special

They also lost their top rated recruit, the DE from Arizona. When he followed DeBoer to Alabama he went from a 93 grade at UW to a 96 grade. LOL, recruiting rankings are so gay.

 

[WoolleyDoog]

Bernard has potential but hasn't quite put it all together yet and might be a bit soft (he sat out the natty with an injury that wasn't serious enough to have him miss spring football?). He needs a big 2025. He had more touchdowns at UW in 2023 than he did last year in Bama, which surprised me. Him and Boston would have been a great combo at UW last year/this year.

 

[DerekJohnson]

@theknowledge
If we still had the sacred ability to edit other people's posts, I would have added "Ben Ossai - Willingham" to your list