Happy End of Summer (for those that celebrate) !!

Got damn, this thread has lifted my spirits immensely…I do not envy what you youngsters are going through. I was in the grinder for 30 years (as was my bride), got the girls thru grad school, damn near have the house paid off. There were several lean years, no vacations, almost no discretionary spending, everything pretty tight.
I am turning 65 next week, and in November we will begin a 6 month walk on the beach, hopefully gaining some much needed perspective along the way.
I do not come here to brag, but to confirm that it can be done. We lost our asses (twice) in RE, and once in the market. I still can’t believe we made it to this point, but here we are…csb
 
Got damn, this thread has lifted my spirits immensely…I do not envy what you youngsters are going through. I was in the grinder for 30 years (as was my bride), got the girls thru grad school, damn near have the house paid off. There were several lean years, no vacations, almost no discretionary spending, everything pretty tight.
I am turning 65 next week, and in November we will begin a 6 month walk on the beach, hopefully gaining some much needed perspective along the way.
I do not come here to brag, but to confirm that it can be done. We lost our asses (twice) in RE, and once in the market. I still can’t believe we made it to this point, but here we are…csb
Pretty hard to fuck up being a boomer ! Most cushy generation in US history.
 
Got damn, this thread has lifted my spirits immensely…I do not envy what you youngsters are going through. I was in the grinder for 30 years (as was my bride), got the girls thru grad school, damn near have the house paid off. There were several lean years, no vacations, almost no discretionary spending, everything pretty tight.
I am turning 65 next week, and in November we will begin a 6 month walk on the beach, hopefully gaining some much needed perspective along the way.
I do not come here to brag, but to confirm that it can be done. We lost our asses (twice) in RE, and once in the market. I still can’t believe we made it to this point, but here we are…csb
Pretty hard to fuck up being a boomer ! Most cushy generation in US history.
Well, other than that whole Nam thing.
 
Got damn, this thread has lifted my spirits immensely…I do not envy what you youngsters are going through. I was in the grinder for 30 years (as was my bride), got the girls thru grad school, damn near have the house paid off. There were several lean years, no vacations, almost no discretionary spending, everything pretty tight.
I am turning 65 next week, and in November we will begin a 6 month walk on the beach, hopefully gaining some much needed perspective along the way.
I do not come here to brag, but to confirm that it can be done. We lost our asses (twice) in RE, and once in the market. I still can’t believe we made it to this point, but here we are…csb
Pretty hard to fuck up being a boomer ! Most cushy generation in US history.
Well, other than that whole Nam thing.
Nam was an early boomer thing. But still, pretty good economics for achieving the American Dream as a boomer.

My dad bought a house 3 blocks from the ocean in Huntington Beach, CA on a $25,000 salary in 1979. That’s $103,000 in 2025 USD. My mom didn’t work. Axe @UW_Doog_Bot if that’s doable today.
 
Got damn, this thread has lifted my spirits immensely…I do not envy what you youngsters are going through. I was in the grinder for 30 years (as was my bride), got the girls thru grad school, damn near have the house paid off. There were several lean years, no vacations, almost no discretionary spending, everything pretty tight.
I am turning 65 next week, and in November we will begin a 6 month walk on the beach, hopefully gaining some much needed perspective along the way.
I do not come here to brag, but to confirm that it can be done. We lost our asses (twice) in RE, and once in the market. I still can’t believe we made it to this point, but here we are…csb
Pretty hard to fuck up being a boomer ! Most cushy generation in US history.
Yep. Dad was an engineer and mom was at home. We had money, but my old man was born in 1917, and grew up thru the depression, so he never wanted to spend it. The only vacations we ever took was driving to Texas every summer to see family. I’ve got some of that stinginess, and it has served me well to this point. I never took a proper vacation until I was 40, and have been on the go ever since.
 
Go make enough money so that your wife can stay at home and take care of them then?
There's a fucking school strike going on where I live and I don't even care.
We got A LOT of overhead, bud.
Yeah I'm familiar with the "We have a massive house in Happy Valley with a bunch of kids and now we both have to hustle until we're 70" couples.
It's really great to be around that and hear that kind of complaining.
Oh we'll be retired by our early 60's god willing. And our housing cost is pretty low relative to household income in spite of living in an expensive zip code. Just saying life starts to get expensive when you factor in 2 kids, college savings, travel sports ball, 4 x skiing season passes, all the gear, fancy vacations, etc.
That kinda sounds like hell to me. We keep some of our discretionary fun for the leisure of mom and dad and omit the kids going on our big vacations. They're probably also much younger than your kids, though.
The two things I've learned from watching other families in the same ballpark as us are:
  1. Travel sports will never happen in the Anus household. Don't care how good any of my boys end up being at a sport.
  2. Kids can take out loans for school if they want to go. Make them think twice about how they go into debt. Worked fine for me. Don't get a shitty degree.
 
There's more than one way to skin a cat here @haie . It's just a matter of priorities.
For our family to live off my income alone, we'd be living in Redmond, OR and not Bend. MrsSnow would be driving a gently used Libaru instead of a new Audi. Family vacation would be the Oregon Coast vs Copenhagen and Tahiti (we've done both in 2025). I'd be listening to music on shitty Sonos system like @CFetters_Nacho_Lover instead of spending my all my dough on vinyl.
Hamster wheel of death it is for the Yella Clan!!

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Also, huh?
 
There's more than one way to skin a cat here @haie . It's just a matter of priorities.
For our family to live off my income alone, we'd be living in Redmond, OR and not Bend. MrsSnow would be driving a gently used Libaru instead of a new Audi. Family vacation would be the Oregon Coast vs Copenhagen and Tahiti (we've done both in 2025). I'd be listening to music on shitty Sonos system like @CFetters_Nacho_Lover instead of spending my all my dough on vinyl.
Hamster wheel of death it is for the Yella Clan!!

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Also, huh?
I use Sonos as metaphor for household fiscal sanity.
 
@BleachedAnusDawg
1- I generally agree that youth travel sports ball is out of control and families get carried away here. That said, if you mated with some elite sports ball DNA as I did and you're kid is going to be somewhere between 6'8" and 6'10" and can dribble you gotta let it play out. I don't know if little piss 1.0 has what it takes to play college hoops like mom, but it's worth, at least, providing the opportunity. Hell @Baseman was TBS stalking my kid 2 years ago in the zone before the Oregon game.
2- Our philosophy on college is you go to an affordable public school and not incur a ton of debt. If you want to go private or out of state there needs to be an athletic of academic scholarship. I don't make @creepycoug bucks so there will be no liberal arts schools back east.
 
@BleachedAnusDawg
1- I generally agree that youth travel sports ball is out of control and families get carried away here. That said, if you mated with some elite sports ball DNA as I did and you're kid is going to be somewhere between 6'8" and 6'10" and can dribble you gotta let it play out. I don't know if little piss 1.0 has what it takes to play college hoops like mom, but it's worth, at least, providing the opportunity. Hell @Baseman was TBS stalking my kid 2 years ago in the zone before the Oregon game.
2- Our philosophy on college is you go to an affordable public school and not incur a ton of debt. If you want to go private or out of state there needs to be an athletic of academic scholarship. I don't make @creepycoug bucks so there will be no liberal arts schools back east.
Yeah, no kids in my house are coming close to 6'10" and there's the old saying that you can't teach height. My oldest seems to be pretty athletic and has picked up baseball pretty well. Hell, he might even reach 6' tall at the rate he's going. If he hits .500 and strikes out 15 a game on a high school team maybe I'll think about adding a summer team to the budget.
Sounds like Ol' Yella is gonna have a family of Ducks in the future. SAD!
 
I'm glad to this day that my dad hated little league and whatever youth sports there were
On the other hand we had school football and basketball teams from 7th grade on
 
@BleachedAnusDawg
1- I generally agree that youth travel sports ball is out of control and families get carried away here. That said, if you mated with some elite sports ball DNA as I did and you're kid is going to be somewhere between 6'8" and 6'10" and can dribble you gotta let it play out. I don't know if little piss 1.0 has what it takes to play college hoops like mom, but it's worth, at least, providing the opportunity. Hell @Baseman was TBS stalking my kid 2 years ago in the zone before the Oregon game.
2- Our philosophy on college is you go to an affordable public school and not incur a ton of debt. If you want to go private or out of state there needs to be an athletic of academic scholarship. I don't make @creepycoug bucks so there will be no liberal arts schools back east.
Yeah, no kids in my house are coming close to 6'10" and there's the old saying that you can't teach height. My oldest seems to be pretty athletic and has picked up baseball pretty well. Hell, he might even reach 6' tall at the rate he's going. If he hits .500 and strikes out 15 a game on a high school team maybe I'll think about adding a summer team to the budget.
Sounds like Ol' Yella is gonna have a family of Ducks in the future. SAD!
If we stay in Oregon that might be the case - who knows.
Living in Wakanda as a remote worker is always a bit tenuous, so you never know if economis would force us to relocate somewhere shitty like front range of Colorado or SoCal.
 
Travel ball before high school is a grift on unrealistic parents.
It all comes down to genetics. And 4'11" 7th grade point guard is going to be 5'4" point guard playing noon ball once puberty hits.
6'8" little Yella would be just fine waiting until he was going into his soph year before hitting the road for exposure.
 
Travel ball before high school is a grift on unrealistic parents.
It all comes down to genetics. And 4'11" 7th grade point guard is going to be 5'4" point guard playing noon ball once puberty hits.
6'8" little Yella would be just fine waiting until he was going into his soph year before hitting the road for exposure.
100% agreement.
But I'm sure you can appreciate where I'm coming from. If mom is 6'2" and held her own against future WNBA chicks in the NCAA tournament and dad is just a shy of 6'7" it's possible there may be some potential worth working on. He's 5'8" heading into 6th grade and starting to figure things out.
For the record, our travel sports ball commitment isn't terrible right now. It's like 4 or 5 tournaments per year in Salem/PDX and the local select league on Central Oregon. If he ends up being good, then you can start looking at more serious travel teams in HS.
 
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Travel ball before high school is a grift on unrealistic parents.
It all comes down to genetics. And 4'11" 7th grade point guard is going to be 5'4" point guard playing noon ball once puberty hits.
6'8" little Yella would be just fine waiting until he was going into his soph year before hitting the road for exposure.
100% agreement.
But I'm sure you can appreciate where I'm coming from. If mom is 6'2" and held her own against future WNBA chicks in the NCAA tournament and dad is just a shy of 6'7" it's possible there may be some potential worth working on. He's 5'8" heading into 6th grade and starting to figure things out.
For the record, our travel sports ball commitment isn't terrible right now. It's like 4 or 5 tournaments per year in Salem/PDX and the local select league on Central Oregon. If he ends up being good, then you can start looking at more serious travel teams in HS.
guess you could say he has good genes.
 
Travel ball before high school is a grift on unrealistic parents.
It all comes down to genetics. And 4'11" 7th grade point guard is going to be 5'4" point guard playing noon ball once puberty hits.
6'8" little Yella would be just fine waiting until he was going into his soph year before hitting the road for exposure.
100% agreement.
But I'm sure you can appreciate where I'm coming from. If mom is 6'2" and held her own against future WNBA chicks in the NCAA tournament and dad is just a shy of 6'7" it's possible there may be some potential worth working on. He's 5'8" heading into 6th grade and starting to figure things out.
For the record, our travel sports ball commitment isn't terrible right now. It's like 4 or 5 tournaments per year in Salem/PDX and the local select league on Central Oregon. If he ends up being good, then you can start looking at more serious travel teams in HS.
guess you could say he has good genes.
Indeed.
It well known that I'm a Sydney Sweeney contrarian in this space, mostly due to 5'3" prejudice and a touch of Downs in the face. But she does have mostly good genes.

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smart thinking @YellowSnow.
unless you're doing something specific, yeah, most people don't care where you went to undergrad and those that do often don't know that Whitman has brighter students than Gonzaga. It's just not common information people tend to care about. Sure, Furd, Duke, Ivies, some of the elite LACs, etc. move the needle and can open some doors. But generally it makes sense to make the right economic decision for undergrad. Grad school is a different matter.
I banking is still eluding the schools in the PNW though UW is starting to scratch some turf there, but you're still better off at a feeder, most of which are elite (MIT, Furd, Duke, Ivy, etc.) and some have just worn a nice path by being super Guido (SMU, USC, Boston College and a few others that would surprise you). I say Guido because those schools, while hard to get into, are not in my estimation at the elite admissions line. SMU for example does not get the smartest kids in Texas - they go to Rice and UT Austin - but they are connected kids. Kind of like the old USC of Texas.
If you want hedge fund they want elite quant skills and often only hire at the grad school level. Those places don't play around. Unlike the I banks, which still maintain kind of a country club atmosphere, these places are mercenary and only want people with the right math skills to help them do what they do, which is use math to fuck around with the market. Fuckers.
PE is somewhere between I banking and hedge … hard to break in.
If your kid wants to end up in Finance in industry and goes the accounting route, which is accessible and doable for the average kid willing to work, then the Big 4 give zero fucks where you went. Totally different culture from the above. Having said that, the Seattle offices of the Big 4 view UW Foster as a very important source of recruiting. Still, you work at those places and you are going to be surrounded by Kewgs, Ducks, Beaves, WW Vikings and CWU Wildcats.

I still maintain that the elite LAC - in the PNW that's Whitman and Reed - is the gold standard for the best substantive undergrad prep. They are not trade schools. They educate in the classical sense and it's not possible to hide at those places. Your professors are going to know you on a first name basis and will know if you're not in class. No scantron multiple choice tests. You have to know your shit or your grades will suffer. My kid attended one in New England and is now a maff PhD student at an Ivy. Ask and she'll tell you majoring in physics at her LAC is still the hardest academic shit she's done. Worth the money? Depends on your priorities, but probably not.
 
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There's more than one way to skin a cat here @haie . It's just a matter of priorities.
For our family to live off my income alone, we'd be living in Redmond, OR and not Bend. MrsSnow would be driving a gently used Libaru instead of a new Audi. Family vacation would be the Oregon Coast vs Copenhagen and Tahiti (we've done both in 2025). I'd be listening to music on shitty Sonos system like @CFetters_Nacho_Lover instead of spending my all my dough on vinyl.
Hamster wheel of death it is for the Yella Clan!!
I know.
My family has a sick cabin and I hate travelling. Like absolutely fucking hate it.
It isn't lost on me how much that saves versus even just taking the kids down to a third world country like DisneyLand.
 
Travel ball before high school is a grift on unrealistic parents.
It all comes down to genetics. And 4'11" 7th grade point guard is going to be 5'4" point guard playing noon ball once puberty hits.
6'8" little Yella would be just fine waiting until he was going into his soph year before hitting the road for exposure.
100% agreement.
But I'm sure you can appreciate where I'm coming from. If mom is 6'2" and held her own against future WNBA chicks in the NCAA tournament and dad is just a shy of 6'7" it's possible there may be some potential worth working on. He's 5'8" heading into 6th grade and starting to figure things out.
For the record, our travel sports ball commitment isn't terrible right now. It's like 4 or 5 tournaments per year in Salem/PDX and the local select league on Central Oregon. If he ends up being good, then you can start looking at more serious travel teams in HS.
Get him into a boat. The competition in basketball is fucking fierce and one of the sports for which the PNW produces a shit load of talent.
Also, the AAU circuit is almost inevitable for hoops and that is a culture in which you have to mind yourself as a big white guy. Buddy just went through it and his son, one of the best Washington high school kids, is off to the east coast to play for a high academis school.
If this NIL shit is around when junior is out, I will tell you from having walked with my buddy through his son's recruitment that being a high school recruit has become a much tougher road than it used to be.
I don't know. I'd get that kid a killer 2K erg time and get him recruited to play rowboat. You will like your life much better. I'm not sure I could play the AAU game. The east side soccer shit show circus was about all I could take. Add the additional layer of shit you get with AAU and it would have been a hard pass for me.
 
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