Grubb rumored to be going to Bama

[DerekJohnson]

@MikeSeaver
Yes I understand that

Sometimes coaches that seem like they should thrive at new universities, don’t. I thought when RichRod left West Virginia he would take the Big 10 by storm with his crazy zone read offense. He’d had the Mountaineers on the doorstep of a title game. What would he do with Michigans resources? Scott Frost going home to Nebraska seemed like the perfect fit. Undefeated at UCF the previous year. He could never get over the hump. Harbaugh took forever to get Michigan where they wanted to be. You think Bama will give Boner four or five years to get it right? Dan Mullen won 11 games at Mississippi State and had them ranked #1 for a spell. The Cougars of the SEC at number one. Crazy. He was an Urban Meyer guy, and I thought he was the perfect coach to get Florida right. Nope. Lincoln Riley at USC, Dirk Koetter at ASU, Dan Hawkins at Colorado, Brian Kelly at LSU (so far), all of them had massive success at other universities and failed at the bigger job. It happens all the time. I think to myself, that guy will kill it there, and then they fail. There’s something to be said about fit. Grass isn’t greener, Bigger isn’t always better. Do I think that will happen to KDB? Probably not, but I sure hold out hope it does. FTG. I’m still bitter.

I agree with all that and it's a good point. But there are also numerous examples of guys you think will do well that do great. DeBoer has an extensive history to review and it shows that he gets the best out of people and is a proven winner. One season of going 9-4 doesn't mean he's suddenly a fraud and a bust, despite the doogish wishful thinking from many on this bored.

 

[Fire_Marshall_Bill]

Bammer isn't going to win five championships in 12 years again. That's unheard of since Knute Rockne and with the field more level, the SEC is going back to what it was before 2007 or so.

 

[theknowledge]

@MikeSeaver
Yes I understand that

Sometimes coaches that seem like they should thrive at new universities, don’t. I thought when RichRod left West Virginia he would take the Big 10 by storm with his crazy zone read offense. He’d had the Mountaineers on the doorstep of a title game. What would he do with Michigans resources? Scott Frost going home to Nebraska seemed like the perfect fit. Undefeated at UCF the previous year. He could never get over the hump. Harbaugh took forever to get Michigan where they wanted to be. You think Bama will give Boner four or five years to get it right? Dan Mullen won 11 games at Mississippi State and had them ranked #1 for a spell. The Cougars of the SEC at number one. Crazy. He was an Urban Meyer guy, and I thought he was the perfect coach to get Florida right. Nope. Lincoln Riley at USC, Dirk Koetter at ASU, Dan Hawkins at Colorado, Brian Kelly at LSU (so far), all of them had massive success at other universities and failed at the bigger job. It happens all the time. I think to myself, that guy will kill it there, and then they fail. There’s something to be said about fit. Grass isn’t greener, Bigger isn’t always better. Do I think that will happen to KDB? Probably not, but I sure hold out hope it does. FTG. I’m still bitter.

I agree with all that and it's a good point. But there are also numerous examples of guys you think will do well that do great. DeBoer has an extensive history to review and it shows that he gets the best out of people and is a proven winner. One season of going 9-4 doesn't mean he's suddenly a fraud and a bust, despite the doogish wishful thinking from many on this bored.

I agree with you as well. I DO think he'll get the ship righted at Alabama. I really do. Losing DeBoer hurt me a lot and I'm still bitter at him and UW. But to play the side of the doogs on this one I could point out that DeBoer was 12-6 at Fresno. A program historically top 3 in the MW. 3-3 the Covid year and 9-3 the year after with his program culture set. They didn't play for a MW title in 2022 because he/they lost head scratching games to a loser program like Hawaii and getting throttled by a 7-5 Boise team 40-14 when the path to a title was in their hands. They pushed Oregon, they beat UCLA but how could they blow two gimmies? The 2022 loss to a bad ASU team coached by a HS coach and quarterbacked by their third string guy cost UW a chance at a conference title. 2023 ASU, WSU and Stanford were all razor thin margins against bad teams with losing records. Now in 2024 he kicks a games against 6-7 Oklahoma and 7-6 Vanderbilt. He's got an amazing record at D3 or NAIA or whatever that was but his track record in D1 football has holes and things a doog could point at and say maybe UW dodged a bullet. Just a devils advocate argument, again I do think he'll win at Bama, too many built in advantages there for someone as talented as him at morale building and offense to fail …
I think.