Grantland headline - The Quiet Genius of Oregons Mark Helfreich

Oregon has had an amazing run, being an elite program for 5-7 years. Their SRS over the last 8 years is #1 in the country. Its difficult for even USC, Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, etc to sustain that type of success. The driving force was Chip and he's gone and not walking through that door.

Unfortunately, without a top flight coach they will never be near that level again. They could be top 25 for the next 5 years but it will feel like 6-6 because of where they just were.

Helfrich will have a better record than his replacement. Sometimes there isn't a great fit and sometimes you fuck up the hire. Having money doesn't mean everyone is interested and it doesn't mean you can hire a great coach. Oregon isn't USC, Texas or Alabama. By the time Helfrich is gone, who the fuck will want to coach a 7-8 win team? It might be an 8 win team this season. Certainly not some top 10 coach in the south or midwest. They could make a good hire but that doesn't mean they will return to elite status. As RD said, people said no to Texas and people said no to USC last season and in 2000.

Oregon is really fucked and this could be the season their fans realize it. Better for them that they collapse now rather than see Helfrich win enough games to keep his job for a few seasons.

Solid post chest, agree with most of it, but do think it's a stretch to use SRS to compare Oregon's run to runs USC, Alabama, Oklahoma, etc, have had. SRS is biased towards offensive production, which favors teams in conferences like the PAC, where defense is typically less than stellar. Oregon has had a great run, they've won a lot of games, but the teams you're comparing them to are teams that tend to win multiple national championships during their runs, with physical, dominating teams, kryptonite to the Kelly and Sling Blade duck teams. Anyway, no disrespect meant to Oregon or your post, just not a fan of SRS or any other statistical measures as a lone means to rank college football teams. Doing so results in an incomplete analysis.
 
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I swim in this pond a lot

I know your being sarkastic but that's not a pond, its the mill race.
 
Oregon has had an amazing run, being an elite program for 5-7 years. Their SRS over the last 8 years is #1 in the country. Its difficult for even USC, Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, etc to sustain that type of success. The driving force was Chip and he's gone and not walking through that door.

Unfortunately, without a top flight coach they will never be near that level again. They could be top 25 for the next 5 years but it will feel like 6-6 because of where they just were.

Helfrich will have a better record than his replacement. Sometimes there isn't a great fit and sometimes you fuck up the hire. Having money doesn't mean everyone is interested and it doesn't mean you can hire a great coach. Oregon isn't USC, Texas or Alabama. By the time Helfrich is gone, who the fuck will want to coach a 7-8 win team? It might be an 8 win team this season. Certainly not some top 10 coach in the south or midwest. They could make a good hire but that doesn't mean they will return to elite status. As RD said, people said no to Texas and people said no to USC last season and in 2000.

Oregon is really fucked and this could be the season their fans realize it. Better for them that they collapse now rather than see Helfrich win enough games to keep his job for a few seasons.

The lesson as always:

SRS is fucktarded.
 
Helfrich is a great QB coach. After he leaves Oregon some team will be able to pick him up at a good price and he will do great things in that role.
 
Helfrich is a great QB coach. After he leaves Oregon some team will be able to pick him up at a good price and he will do great things in that role.

You mean like the Eagles ;)
 
Helfrich is a great QB coach. After he leaves Oregon some team will be able to pick him up at a good price and he will do great things in that role.

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SRS or not, Eugene is not a prime destination, and Oregon isn't college football royalty. They basically lucked out with Chip. He was an unknown.

Part of me wants Helfraud to go nine and three this year just so it will buy him another year or two. Or they can fire him and promote Scott Frost. L O L.

 
Oregon was good under Bellotti and I think Knight thought it was a decent return to get a couple BCS bowls and 8 or 9 wins a year regardless. Chip came out of nowhere and showed Oregon they could be a major player. Thankfully a lot of fucktards down there didn't think he did it the right way not unlike our fucktards felt when James upped the ante after almost getting fired in the late 80's.

A lot of Oregon folks will be fine with Helfired winning 8 or 9 as long as every 5 years he gets a major bowl and wins 11. The question is, will Knight be happy. Nobody cares about the half brains who appreciated James and Chip doing whatever it took, like buying players, to be at the top.
 
SRS or not, Eugene is not a prime destination, and Oregon isn't college football royalty. They basically lucked out with Chip. He was an unknown.

Part of me wants Helfraud to go nine and three this year just so it will buy him another year or two. Or they can fire him and promote Scott Frost. L O L.
Location doesn't matter. Eugene > Tallahassee, Norman, Lincoln, Tuscaloosa and a hell of a lot of other locales that have done just fine getting great coaches when they wanted to.

The only way location matters is access to quality talent. Whether the city is big or small, nice or a dump makes no fucking difference in whether you can build a quality football program.

People who buy into Aubbie's FS IRON LAWS concept don't know shit about what actually goes on in college football.
 
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Helfrich is a great QB coach. After he leaves Oregon some team will be able to pick him up at a good price and he will do great things in that role.

But he's your head coach. QB coaches, along with all other position coaches, hardly matter. If he goes with a good head coach, he will look like a good QB coach. That's what happened at Oregon under Chip. If he goes with a shitty head coach, he will suck as a QB coach. That's what happened with Hawkins.
 
Helfrich is a great QB coach. After he leaves Oregon some team will be able to pick him up at a good price and he will do great things in that role.

But he's your head coach. QB coaches, along with all other position coaches, hardly matter. If he goes with a good head coach, he will look like a good QB coach. That's what happened at Oregon under Chip. If he goes with a shitty head coach, he will suck as a QB coach. That's what happened with Hawkins.

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