Good Jack Lockner Analysis For Those Who Care

Locker was never going to be Drew Brees, but I do wonder if he had more time with Sark and Nussmeier if he actually could have developed into an accurate QB. Sark's real strengths lie in QB coaching as far as I can tell. Likewise if he had QB coaches at Tennessee it would be interesting. Right now it is not interesting.

Lockner is still who he was in college, even with 2.5 years of pro coaching.

It has fucking played out.

I bet the majority of Bronco fans are glad you weren't their GM:
http://www.nfl.com/player/johnelway/2500547/profile

As always, LIPO.

Elway proved he could actually play QB in college though:
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/john-elway-1.html
 
Is this another bullshit attempt at "not defending" Locker?!

Comparing Locker to Elway is dumber than anything AuburnDoogFS has ever said.

Take that bad Doog argument back to Doogman.

I know I am going to regret it, but I will respond.

It was a statement about writing off ANY QB after 19 NFL starts. Especially when half those starts were with a bum shoulder.

Once again, not a comparison, just a statement about LIPO.

Not throw this post into the spin machine in 3, 2, 1.....

 
Is this another bullshit attempt at "not defending" Locker?!

Comparing Locker to Elway is dumber than anything AuburnDoogFS has ever said.

Take that bad Doog argument back to Doogman.

I know I am going to regret it, but I will respond.

It was a statement about writing off ANY QB after 19 NFL starts. Especially when half those starts were with a bum shoulder.

Once again, not a comparison, just a statement about LIPO.

Not throw this post into the spin machine in 3, 2, 1.....

So you think Brandon Weeden can still be a quality NFL QB?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WeedBr00.htm
 
Frank Beamer was bad enough but comparing Lockner to Elway may be the ultimate doogdumb of all time
 
Is this another bullshit attempt at "not defending" Locker?!

Comparing Locker to Elway is dumber than anything AuburnDoogFS has ever said.

Take that bad Doog argument back to Doogman.

I know I am going to regret it, but I will respond.

It was a statement about writing off ANY QB after 19 NFL starts. Especially when half those starts were with a bum shoulder.

Once again, not a comparison, just a statement about LIPO.

Not throw this post into the spin machine in 3, 2, 1.....

So you think Brandon Weeden can still be a quality NFL QB?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WeedBr00.htm

Sample size is really small and that franchise is a mess. He has shown some upside, but the number of INTs is a major concern. If I was the GM, the QB spot would be the least of my worries right now.

Outside of last year's crazy rookie seasons, history tells us it usually take 3+ years (in terms of starts) for a QB to settle in.
 
Frank Beamer was bad enough but comparing Lockner to Elway may be the ultimate doogdumb of all time

IrishDoogFS has SURPASSED Section14AFS territory in this thread.
 
Frank Beamer was bad enough but comparing Lockner to Elway may be the ultimate doogdumb of all time

I better start using more pics for the "special" people around here.

I do donate as much as possible so I hope it helps.
 
Every QB who is considered good in today's NFL established themselves by year three if not much sooner.

So continue to spread bullshit myths.

Great passive aggressive pussy defense as always.
 
Peyton Manning's avg. QB rating Years 1-5 = 85.8

Avg QB rating the rest of his career = 105

Even one of the greatest QBs of all time show dramatic improvement after Yr 5.

Now someone will do their best 23 degrees of KB and say I am now comparing JL to Peyton.

 
Peyton Manning by year two had already established himself as a good QB.

Great pussy passive aggressive skewing stats to defend Jake as always.

The only QB who is considered good in today's NFL who didn't lead his team to the playoffs by his third year was Drew Brees.

So your bullshit it takes QB's at least 3 years myth is as fucktarded as you need to give a coach at least 5 years before you can judge him.
 
Like I said Brees is the only good QB today who didn't establish himself as a good QB by year three.
 
Denver is thankful IrishDoog isn't there GM.

He would have let it play out on Tebow while Elway pulled the plug after only two years. He even won a playoff game.

Denver is in a much better spot today using our thinking than IrishDoogFS thinking.
 
Elway's ratings 1st 4 yrs:

54.9
76.8
70.2
79.0

Finally got over 80 in year 5.

I bet Bronco fans are glad their GM didn't subscribe to your 3yr theory.
 
Eli's ratings 1st 4 yrs:

55.4
75.9
77.0
73.9

Then jumped up to 86.4 in yr 5 and hasn't finished a season under 85.3 since. Glad they did not get rid of him after that 3rd year or they would have missed out on a couple of rings.
 
Eli's ratings 1st 4 yrs:

55.4
75.9
77.0
73.9

Then jumped up to 86.4 in yr 5 and hasn't finished a season under 85.3 since. Glad they did not get rid of him after that 3rd year or they would have missed out on a couple of rings.

He led them to the playoffs in years two and three and won a SB in year four dumb fuck.
 
Irish one question for you:

Has Jake done anything, in college or pro, that makes you believe he can become a (I'll be generous) top 15 passer in the NFL?
 
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