EsophagealFeces
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If they do that and score 24 points, we still win
Give Michigan their Roses
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If they do that and score 24 points, we still win
backthepack
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Oregon ran for 204 at 5 yards a clip and still lost.
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Kingdome_Urinals
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If I was Michigan I would be scared. There is just no preparation for how different the UW offense is to everything else they have seen.
I've been watching the Bama, tOSU, Maryland, and Penn St. games. Those are the best teams they've played.
When the QB's are competent the game is close. But you will literally not see a single deep shot thrown by an elite QB to an elite WR against them. There are none on tape. Zero
The closest thing is the tOSU nobody QB throwing to MHJ. That game was down to the wire.
Michigan will have to play almost perfectly on offense to win IMO.
That being said, they are pretty good on that side. McCarthy can run, is accurate, and they will pound the rock. Corum is a Gaskin, Bucky Irvin type who is very efficient.
However, this is a game where Bruener and Eddie will have a lot more shots to make plays than against Texas.
I've been watching the Bama, tOSU, Maryland, and Penn St. games. Those are the best teams they've played.
When the QB's are competent the game is close. But you will literally not see a single deep shot thrown by an elite QB to an elite WR against them. There are none on tape. Zero
The closest thing is the tOSU nobody QB throwing to MHJ. That game was down to the wire.
Michigan will have to play almost perfectly on offense to win IMO.
That being said, they are pretty good on that side. McCarthy can run, is accurate, and they will pound the rock. Corum is a Gaskin, Bucky Irvin type who is very efficient.
However, this is a game where Bruener and Eddie will have a lot more shots to make plays than against Texas.
Kingdome_Urinals
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This is a legit fear. Michigan will play like Oregon St. has played against UW recently, and they have a better QB. Keep UW's offense on the sidelines and put pressure on them to score every time in a limited possession game.
I just don't think a non-conference opponent with 1 week of prep can keep UW out of the endzone.
Michigan has almost always played from ahead and controlled the tempo. If they get down two scores in a very high pressure situation, I don't think they're built for that.
Sell out to stop the run and if they score quickly against us a few times, that's fine. It just gets Penix back on the field faster.
UW likes that kind of party.
PostGameOrangeSlices
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Yup
If UW scores in the first half it negates that
Sobchak_Security
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Keep reading and hearing that Michigan was "built to stop Ohio State and its receivers." They managed to give up 9.1 yards per attempt to Kyle McCord at home in 30 degree weather. Had one of his best games of the year.
Last time they played a true spread 'em out team, TCU put 50 on them.
I don't see it with Michigan. I think Michigan is a lot like Washington in that no one has watched them play. This team ran for 1.9 yards per rush and threw for 4.9 yards per attempt in a dome in its conference title game. It needed Bama to piss down its leg to advance. Bama literally couldn't snap the ball for half the game.
It got outgained at home by an Ohio State team that wasn't its normal juggernaut self. McCarthy has regularly thrown for 140 yards. Penn State repeatedly stepped on its own dick in a game that remained competitive to the end.
Michigan is fine but people have slotted them as the Alabama/Georgia of this year because people need a team to occupy that role. In reality, Georgia was the Georgia of this year. Everybody got a little lucky they played a bad half against Alabama. Michigan is not Georgia.
I keep hearing about the relentless pass rush but they sacked Kyle McCord one time in that game. If they're so fucking dominant, why weren't they dominant against a bunch of teams that looked like total shit any time they went out of conference. Ohio State sucked shit against a Notre Dame team that ended up being pretty average the one real time they went out of conference then embarrassed themselves against Missouri.
Penn State did nothing and lost to a mediocre Ole Miss team.
Tennessee looked better against Iowa than Michigan did. Bowls don't tell as big a story as they once did, but none of these teams were worth a shit.
Last time they played a true spread 'em out team, TCU put 50 on them.
I don't see it with Michigan. I think Michigan is a lot like Washington in that no one has watched them play. This team ran for 1.9 yards per rush and threw for 4.9 yards per attempt in a dome in its conference title game. It needed Bama to piss down its leg to advance. Bama literally couldn't snap the ball for half the game.
It got outgained at home by an Ohio State team that wasn't its normal juggernaut self. McCarthy has regularly thrown for 140 yards. Penn State repeatedly stepped on its own dick in a game that remained competitive to the end.
Michigan is fine but people have slotted them as the Alabama/Georgia of this year because people need a team to occupy that role. In reality, Georgia was the Georgia of this year. Everybody got a little lucky they played a bad half against Alabama. Michigan is not Georgia.
I keep hearing about the relentless pass rush but they sacked Kyle McCord one time in that game. If they're so fucking dominant, why weren't they dominant against a bunch of teams that looked like total shit any time they went out of conference. Ohio State sucked shit against a Notre Dame team that ended up being pretty average the one real time they went out of conference then embarrassed themselves against Missouri.
Penn State did nothing and lost to a mediocre Ole Miss team.
Tennessee looked better against Iowa than Michigan did. Bowls don't tell as big a story as they once did, but none of these teams were worth a shit.
dannarc
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Michigan has a very big, mauling, physical OL, Corem will get yards and they will mix up short passes and QB keepers off the edge(ZTF) side. This will be scary....however, Tuli is a monster inside, and Trice is playing the run really well right now, Bruener and Eddie are attackers, so run blitz galore, creep Dom close to LOS and make them go 1 on 1 with our corners, Muhamed will hold up, they won't scorch us deep. We need to be ready for TE Stanford edition, this scares me somewhat.. Michigan's offense isn't as explosive as Texas or Oregon's, so we should be fine.
On offense, keep within the game plan, RTDB!, even with our 1 legged DJ, setup the pass. So help me God/Alla/St Nick if Grubb comes out slinging 30yrd fades and quick 3 and outs, we are doomed, which I don't think he will. They can't stop our offense when we are dink and dunking then an occassion bombs away. Let the screen game rip. McMillihan, Polk, Rome, and Westy/Culp are lethal. Look for more designed runs for Penix.
Special teams, wouldn't be surprised if we do some trickery at some point.
This gayme will be an ALL IN, guns blazing, take no prisoners affair.
On offense, keep within the game plan, RTDB!, even with our 1 legged DJ, setup the pass. So help me God/Alla/St Nick if Grubb comes out slinging 30yrd fades and quick 3 and outs, we are doomed, which I don't think he will. They can't stop our offense when we are dink and dunking then an occassion bombs away. Let the screen game rip. McMillihan, Polk, Rome, and Westy/Culp are lethal. Look for more designed runs for Penix.
Special teams, wouldn't be surprised if we do some trickery at some point.
This gayme will be an ALL IN, guns blazing, take no prisoners affair.
I was shocked to find Corum only runs for 4.7 yards per-carry. Their #2 back 3.5 and McCarthy 2.8 with decent mobility. Sure committing to the run with those numbers equals a first down in three downs, but they're pretty pedestrian numbers for 2023 college football.
My worry is they are pretty solid at every position and their secondary looks like it should be the best UW has faced and they don't give up points.
Kingdome_Urinals
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Yeah, UW's OL is a lot better than Alabama's. Michigan is not going to do shit to Penix IMO.
Compare the amount of pressure UT got on Alabama early in the year to what they put on Penix this week. UW handled a UT line that caused problems for everybody else.
What UW presents is a far greater challenge than anything Michigan is prepared for.
UW has a much better chance of blowing out Michigan than they did Texas.
Kingdome_Urinals
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I was shocked to find Corum only runs for 4.7 yards per-carry. Their #2 back 3.5 and McCarthy 2.8 with decent mobility. Sure committing to the run with those numbers equals a first down in three downs, but they're pretty pedestrian numbers for 2023 college football.
My worry is they are pretty solid at every position and their secondary looks like it should be the best UW has faced and they don't give up points.
I don't see how Michigan has great secondary. They have not played a decent passing team all season. I don't think they are any match for Odunze, Polk, McMillan, Bernard, Westover....
The UW offense is a spaceship compared to what UM has played.
This is the thing to me. I always thought with Texas and Oregon there was no way Washington's defense would ever stop them from scoring so they'd always be able to make it a game. Even though I think Michigan is a little better than those teams, there's a scenario where they get behind and McCarthy throws them out of the game the way he did against TCU last year.
I like what I'm reading
Michigan has a brutally powerful DL and the big deal difference is that they are a super smart defense that understands orchestrated timing plays to get a myriad of front 7 players inside the offense ~ unlike everyone else that we have played, they are going to make some big plays defensively.
Our brain trust knows that Michigan has a killer front 7 and they know how to use them to create havoc. We have to counter with precision, creative misdirection and fluid motion to keep the ball moving with small ball plays and some dagger shots mixed in. The Dwags can do it.
As everyone has said, the Dwags have a spaceship offense, but i think the real point is that they are tough fucking guys that can take a pounding while they deliver the kill shot. Here is to that ~ this will be the difference.
Our brain trust knows that Michigan has a killer front 7 and they know how to use them to create havoc. We have to counter with precision, creative misdirection and fluid motion to keep the ball moving with small ball plays and some dagger shots mixed in. The Dwags can do it.
As everyone has said, the Dwags have a spaceship offense, but i think the real point is that they are tough fucking guys that can take a pounding while they deliver the kill shot. Here is to that ~ this will be the difference.
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UW needs to score early on deep balls or get some good stops early before the run game gets moving.
Michigan has a better run game than Oregon but not the perimeter or passing. We go up by 3 scores they are toast.
This will be Beavis but in a dome without the rainstorm.
Michigan has a better run game than Oregon but not the perimeter or passing. We go up by 3 scores they are toast.
This will be Beavis but in a dome without the rainstorm.