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This is great. Now all non revenue generated sport will have no scholarships
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Considering this will directly affect me in the future, not sure how to feel about it. On one hand it's cool that superstars like Tebow or Johnny Football or Kyler Murray can get their bag for their college performance, but on the other hand this could affect sports like mine (baseball).

The only option for the NCAA that won't make everyone hate them is to allow it for all institutions. There's no way that they just let the Cali schools do it, since all the best players would want in.
 
Employers can prohibit shit all the time even though it's "legal." Why can't the NCAA continue to maintain that if you participate in its organization you have to play by its rules? Legal battles will drag this out another few years and nothing will change until it's settled.
 
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Saw this idea elsewhere and it made a lot of sense to me...

Give the kids a choice: either they get a scholarship from the school plus all of the living/food stipends that come with it, or forgo all of that to get endorsement money. They would still count towards the 85 cap.

We’d see real quick how many players can actually be worth the cost of all the things they’d be forgoing (hint: it’s not many)
 
Saw this idea elsewhere and it made a lot of sense to me...

Give the kids a choice: either they get a scholarship from the school plus all of the living/food stipends that come with it, or forgo all of that to get endorsement money. They would still count towards the 85 cap.

We’d see real quick how many players can actually be worth the cost of all the things they’d be forgoing (hint: it’s not many)
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Interesting idea.

What happens when they think they are the shit and forgo the scholarship only to find out they are actually just shit?

Thousands of what-if’s. This was just the first one that came to mind.
 
Saw this idea elsewhere and it made a lot of sense to me...

Give the kids a choice: either they get a scholarship from the school plus all of the living/food stipends that come with it, or forgo all of that to get endorsement money. They would still count towards the 85 cap.

We’d see real quick how many players can actually be worth the cost of all the things they’d be forgoing (hint: it’s not many)
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Interesting idea.

What happens when they think they are the shit and forgo the scholarship only to find out they are actually just shit?

Thousands of what-if’s. This was just the first one that came to mind.
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The same thing that happened when the NFL started drafting juniors. Guys declare and then don’t get picked and other guys learn from that.
 
Saw this idea elsewhere and it made a lot of sense to me...

Give the kids a choice: either they get a scholarship from the school plus all of the living/food stipends that come with it, or forgo all of that to get endorsement money. They would still count towards the 85 cap.

We’d see real quick how many players can actually be worth the cost of all the things they’d be forgoing (hint: it’s not many)
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I don't know if I like that, though. There'd be a lot of dumb teenagers taking the endorsement money who don't know any better and worse, snake oil salesmen in CFB would persuade them it's a good idea.

The counting towards the 85 cap makes sense, but how hard would it be for Nick Saban to use the Bama booster network, set up endorsements for all his top recruits, and start persuading all the kids in the country to come to Bama and make 100k a year?

I don't think that levels the playing field at all. The idea is fine - the kids will learn from the ones who make bad decisions - but there are ways that the rich programs can and will take advantage of it.

Winners win, I know. But that seems to just mean the rich get richer. This benefits flashy schools like Oregon and USC and downgrades ones like UW, since Pete would hate that.

 
Saw this idea elsewhere and it made a lot of sense to me...

Give the kids a choice: either they get a scholarship from the school plus all of the living/food stipends that come with it, or forgo all of that to get endorsement money. They would still count towards the 85 cap.

We’d see real quick how many players can actually be worth the cost of all the things they’d be forgoing (hint: it’s not many)
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I don't know if I like that, though. There'd be a lot of dumb teenagers taking the endorsement money who don't know any better and worse, snake oil salesmen in CFB would persuade them it's a good idea.

The counting towards the 85 cap makes sense, but how hard would it be for Nick Saban to use the Bama booster network, set up endorsements for all his top recruits, and start persuading all the kids in the country to come to Bama and make 100k a year[/b]?

I don't think that levels the playing field at all. The idea is fine - the kids will learn from the ones who make bad decisions - but there are ways that the rich programs can and will take advantage of it.

Winners win, I know. But that seems to just mean the rich get richer. This benefits flashy schools like Oregon and USC and downgrades ones like UW, since Pete would hate that.
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I think you're drastically overestimating the market.

DeAndre Ayton was rumored to be paid $10K per month by Sean Miller. That's a future NBA star in a sport where individual talent is far more important than in football (QB's excluded). Without finding exact $'s, I don't think I've ever seen a rumor of a CFB player getting more than $100K as a signing bonus, let alone annually.

And that's not to mention that there will be an inevitable bidding war for the elite of the elite talent, which will take away potential $ for the 4 star recruits
 
Saw this idea elsewhere and it made a lot of sense to me...

Give the kids a choice: either they get a scholarship from the school plus all of the living/food stipends that come with it, or forgo all of that to get endorsement money. They would still count towards the 85 cap.

We’d see real quick how many players can actually be worth the cost of all the things they’d be forgoing (hint: it’s not many)
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I don't know if I like that, though. There'd be a lot of dumb teenagers taking the endorsement money who don't know any better and worse, snake oil salesmen in CFB would persuade them it's a good idea.

The counting towards the 85 cap makes sense, but how hard would it be for Nick Saban to use the Bama booster network, set up endorsements for all his top recruits, and start persuading all the kids in the country to come to Bama and make 100k a year[/b]?

I don't think that levels the playing field at all. The idea is fine - the kids will learn from the ones who make bad decisions - but there are ways that the rich programs can and will take advantage of it.

Winners win, I know. But that seems to just mean the rich get richer. This benefits flashy schools like Oregon and USC and downgrades ones like UW, since Pete would hate that.
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I think you're drastically overestimating the market.

DeAndre Ayton was rumored to be paid $10K per month by Sean Miller. That's a future NBA star in a sport where individual talent is far more important than in football (QB's excluded). Without finding exact $'s, I don't think I've ever seen a rumor of a CFB player getting more than $100K as a signing bonus, let alone annually.

And that's not to mention that there will be an inevitable bidding war for the elite of the elite talent, which will take away potential $ for the 4 star recruits
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Albert Means was paid 200,000 by an Alabama booster in 2001 to sign, so it has happened and probably does often.

It's also different because it is paid public endorsements and not under the table. In a high penetration football market I would expect the endorsement setup for recruits to be very high, especially at an elite booster program.
 
Saw this idea elsewhere and it made a lot of sense to me...

Give the kids a choice: either they get a scholarship from the school plus all of the living/food stipends that come with it, or forgo all of that to get endorsement money. They would still count towards the 85 cap.

We’d see real quick how many players can actually be worth the cost of all the things they’d be forgoing (hint: it’s not many)
Click to expand...

I don't know if I like that, though. There'd be a lot of dumb teenagers taking the endorsement money who don't know any better and worse, snake oil salesmen in CFB would persuade them it's a good idea.

The counting towards the 85 cap makes sense, but how hard would it be for Nick Saban to use the Bama booster network, set up endorsements for all his top recruits, and start persuading all the kids in the country to come to Bama and make 100k a year[/b]?

I don't think that levels the playing field at all. The idea is fine - the kids will learn from the ones who make bad decisions - but there are ways that the rich programs can and will take advantage of it.

Winners win, I know. But that seems to just mean the rich get richer. This benefits flashy schools like Oregon and USC and downgrades ones like UW, since Pete would hate that.
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I think you're drastically overestimating the market.

DeAndre Ayton was rumored to be paid $10K per month by Sean Miller. That's a future NBA star in a sport where individual talent is far more important than in football (QB's excluded). Without finding exact $'s, I don't think I've ever seen a rumor of a CFB player getting more than $100K as a signing bonus, let alone annually.

And that's not to mention that there will be an inevitable bidding war for the elite of the elite talent, which will take away potential $ for the 4 star recruits
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Albert Means was paid 200,000 by an Alabama booster in 2001 to sign, so it has happened and probably does often.

It's also different because it is paid public endorsements and not under the table. In a high penetration football market I would expect the endorsement setup for recruits to be very high, especially at an elite booster program.
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I think you’re right
 
Paying a player to commit is stupid. That's how teams used to get probation and the players usually didn't pan out

Paying players after they commit and show up and do something has the same effect because the word gets out to the right people and the kid actually earned something

I'm a golden handshake kind of guy
 
This is going to snowball quickly, and players profiting off their likeness is probably unavoidable. Anyone here who thinks we’ll maintain the status quo is delusional.

The “scholarship or endorsements, your choice” solution is still the most solid I’ve heard, even though it’s not perfect as @jhfstyle24 illustrated
 
I really don't think much will change, other than the other P5 conferences will now be able to compete more with the SEC.

The people who seem to be most against it are Darren Rovell and other similar slapdicks, so it makes me like it just based on them opposing it.
 
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