Fozzy to Stanford

[RoadDawg55]

Look, our smallest, youngest and weakest offensive lineman who is a true freshman and was maybe a 3* is the guy that the tv announcers are praising week in and week out for his amazing play.

i think we'll be okay without mr. sarrell.

Yep. We survived no Garnett and Banner.
But 2018 I hope the recruiting focuses on
both lines. That's how you stay elite.

We didn't survive no Garnett or Banner at all. Weird logic.

The 2013-2015 teams would have been quite a bit better with those guys, especially Garnett.

Banner would have thrived under Petersen. No way would this staff let him weigh 380 like he did at USC.

We haven't got Banner this year and
have a pretty damn good line. If we don't
have Sarell next year we'll still have a better
line than this year. Pretty straightfoward
to me. Love to have him but people wetting
their pants when it looks like he's headed
elsewhere, WTF? Strauser seems pretty damn good
at development. Don't think Shelton or Eldenkramp
were very high rated but look where they are now.
And Harris is the next low rated jewel.

I love Strausser and think it's beyond retarded to complain about him for any reason.

If Fozzy doesn't come, he doesn't come. Not much more anyone could have done than win the conference, show we can have a great OL, and have the head coach arrive in a helicopter to a high school game.

Assuming that Fozzy doesn't come here (LIPO) ... you do realize that when it comes to the 3 primary OL targets that we had this year in this class we will have gotten 1 of 3?

The one we got is a local kid ...

The local national recruit (top 5 player by any service) is going to Stanford ...

The out of state kid from the Bay Area who is coached by a UW legend has chosen USC ...

IF this program is to compete at a national level, as others have stated, it will be because we are able to compete first and foremost on the OL. The reality is that the top 2 targets we had in this class we'll likely miss on both. Bainivalu is a really good OL prospect and nothing to sneeze at ... but if he is your 3rd OL in the class you are dancing in the streets. If he's your top OL recruit in this class then you probably aren't building the kind of combination of depth/talent needed to compete with the Alabama's, Ohio State's, Michigan, and even USC's to the point where you walk onto the field knowing you are going to beat them.

What other positional groupings on the field can you say that about going forward given what is currently on the roster and where this class has recruited?

Still want to stand by the fact that it's beyond retarted to complain about Strausser for any reason?

We already are competing on a national level, so yes it is beyond retarded to complain about the OL coach of a really good OL from a team very likely to make the playoff. I've only posted that line of thought maybe 20-25 times.

Cart before the horse ...

We have proven that we can compete at the PAC level ... and BTW our OL got their shit pushed in in the game against elite DL talent that we lost this year.

We haven't proven shit on a national scale ...

You're FS enough to say that if we get our shit pushed in by Alabama or Ohio St or Clemson that those teams do it to everybody so it's not that big of a deal.

Since when do you have standards? You've defended some horrific performances for years but since you are obsessed with me, you would pretend like the OL had a bad year if we get beat by an elite team?

 

[animate]

Well, i'll put it this way:

- AVT, coached by husky legend but with resurgent USC, even if he's a "norcal" kid. Hard to argue that going to USC is somehow a slap in the face or a "miss"
- Bainivalu. Back yard prospect commits to us. Makes sense, he didn't seem to do as much of the pub camps as others too, I kinda knew this was coming.
- Fozzy, guy appears cerebral and extremely capable, identifies with Stanford who by everyone's account fits the OL bill or at least the hype. Realizes that UW is here to stay with Petersen, is probably torn with that realization. Shaw turned around the Furd season which makes it less difficult to turn down the emotional attachment in Fozzy's head coupled with probably mother support for Furd. Doesn't appear that Shaw is on any hot seat anymore so he can play future close to his vest. Fozzy can't read the poker cards so he's left with his initial emotional investment versus the new UW reality under Petersen.

But how about what has happened lately? Pulled the top two players out of Oregon including a very much need DL high-end prospect.

2018 kids already lining up for UW.

The train is chugging forward, i'm just saying that it's one year premature for OL worries. If we are swinging and missing next year then maybe we can string up Strausser by the gonads. But let's wait another year.

 

[Tequilla]

Look, our smallest, youngest and weakest offensive lineman who is a true freshman and was maybe a 3* is the guy that the tv announcers are praising week in and week out for his amazing play.

i think we'll be okay without mr. sarrell.

Yep. We survived no Garnett and Banner.
But 2018 I hope the recruiting focuses on
both lines. That's how you stay elite.

We didn't survive no Garnett or Banner at all. Weird logic.

The 2013-2015 teams would have been quite a bit better with those guys, especially Garnett.

Banner would have thrived under Petersen. No way would this staff let him weigh 380 like he did at USC.

We haven't got Banner this year and
have a pretty damn good line. If we don't
have Sarell next year we'll still have a better
line than this year. Pretty straightfoward
to me. Love to have him but people wetting
their pants when it looks like he's headed
elsewhere, WTF? Strauser seems pretty damn good
at development. Don't think Shelton or Eldenkramp
were very high rated but look where they are now.
And Harris is the next low rated jewel.

I love Strausser and think it's beyond retarded to complain about him for any reason.

If Fozzy doesn't come, he doesn't come. Not much more anyone could have done than win the conference, show we can have a great OL, and have the head coach arrive in a helicopter to a high school game.

Assuming that Fozzy doesn't come here (LIPO) ... you do realize that when it comes to the 3 primary OL targets that we had this year in this class we will have gotten 1 of 3?

The one we got is a local kid ...

The local national recruit (top 5 player by any service) is going to Stanford ...

The out of state kid from the Bay Area who is coached by a UW legend has chosen USC ...

IF this program is to compete at a national level, as others have stated, it will be because we are able to compete first and foremost on the OL. The reality is that the top 2 targets we had in this class we'll likely miss on both. Bainivalu is a really good OL prospect and nothing to sneeze at ... but if he is your 3rd OL in the class you are dancing in the streets. If he's your top OL recruit in this class then you probably aren't building the kind of combination of depth/talent needed to compete with the Alabama's, Ohio State's, Michigan, and even USC's to the point where you walk onto the field knowing you are going to beat them.

What other positional groupings on the field can you say that about going forward given what is currently on the roster and where this class has recruited?

Still want to stand by the fact that it's beyond retarted to complain about Strausser for any reason?

We already are competing on a national level, so yes it is beyond retarded to complain about the OL coach of a really good OL from a team very likely to make the playoff. I've only posted that line of thought maybe 20-25 times.

Cart before the horse ...

We have proven that we can compete at the PAC level ... and BTW our OL got their shit pushed in in the game against elite DL talent that we lost this year.

We haven't proven shit on a national scale ...

You're FS enough to say that if we get our shit pushed in by Alabama or Ohio St or Clemson that those teams do it to everybody so it's not that big of a deal.

Since when do you have standards? You've defended some horrific performances for years but since you are obsessed with me, you would pretend like the OL had a bad year if we get beat by an elite team?

I'm not the one that has talked about how great the OL is this year ... but solid deflection by you ...

As for obsessed with you ... far from it. Anybody that likes to take screen shots and play Monday Morning QB years after the fact are the ones that are tied to being obsessive.

As for you, I just don't like you ... particularly how you are Johnny Come Lately now that this team is successful and you now want to get in the discussion that you left because you were convinced Pete would never be successful here ... if I was obsessed with you I would go back to all the stupid shit you said on the HFP and call you out on it ... anybody that wants to do that would be left with a shit ton of gold

 

[Tequilla]

@animate

I'll be the last person to talk about general recruiting and saying it isn't going well ...

As for the OL this year, it's not just this year ... I suggest you find some of @Dennis_DeYoung comments on the topic

 

[dnc]

For those that like to say 1 in 3 recruiting is good ... I'd also like to point out that where that came from was that IF there were 3 elite prospects out of SoCal, the idea being that USC would get 1, UCLA would get 1, and UW would get 1 ... and that the reason the UW prospect would be better was because he'd get better coaching and have more of a chip on his shoulder. 1 in 3 never applied to local kids.

As it pertains to OL recruiting and the 1 of 3 ...

Bainivalu SHOULD have been a slam dunk given location and that he was more of a PAC recruit than he was a national recruit.

Fozzy being an in-state kid SHOULD be a minor favorite to UW but going nationally isn't a complete shock historically ... the big miss here (assuming that he goes to Stanford) wasn't that he left but that there was at best a very small window where having any expectation that we could be in the lead was reasonable.

AVT wasn't a SoCal kid ... he was a NoCal kid. Because of that, the USC/UCLA pull SHOULD have been less ... add to it the fact that he goes to a school that not only have we recruited reasonably well as of late (see Camilo Eifler), but the HC of that school is probably on the short list of all-time Husky Legends in Nip ... this is a kid that we should have been able to win over with high end recruiting ... instead he chose USC BEFORE they had even turn things around ... that's a FAIL by us in recruiting.

We're not going 1 for 3 on local kids.

You are all over the place.

Just stop.

 

[RoadDawg55]

Tequilla, Nobody cares. I always said I would love Pete if he won. I like discussing Husky Football because I've been a fan my whole life. What a confusing concept.

To you and many other dumb ass doog's surprise, I enjoy it when UW is good.

 

[backthepack]

For those that like to say 1 in 3 recruiting is good ... I'd also like to point out that where that came from was that IF there were 3 elite prospects out of SoCal, the idea being that USC would get 1, UCLA would get 1, and UW would get 1 ... and that the reason the UW prospect would be better was because he'd get better coaching and have more of a chip on his shoulder. 1 in 3 never applied to local kids.

As it pertains to OL recruiting and the 1 of 3 ...

Bainivalu SHOULD have been a slam dunk given location and that he was more of a PAC recruit than he was a national recruit.

Fozzy being an in-state kid SHOULD be a minor favorite to UW but going nationally isn't a complete shock historically ... the big miss here (assuming that he goes to Stanford) wasn't that he left but that there was at best a very small window where having any expectation that we could be in the lead was reasonable.

AVT wasn't a SoCal kid ... he was a NoCal kid. Because of that, the USC/UCLA pull SHOULD have been less ... add to it the fact that he goes to a school that not only have we recruited reasonably well as of late (see Camilo Eifler), but the HC of that school is probably on the short list of all-time Husky Legends in Nip ... this is a kid that we should have been able to win over with high end recruiting ... instead he chose USC BEFORE they had even turn things around ... that's a FAIL by us in recruiting.

He was being crooted by Michigan lol STFU

 

[Meek]

Can you guys take this off line?

 

[dhdawg]

For those that like to say 1 in 3 recruiting is good ... I'd also like to point out that where that came from was that IF there were 3 elite prospects out of SoCal, the idea being that USC would get 1, UCLA would get 1, and UW would get 1 ... and that the reason the UW prospect would be better was because he'd get better coaching and have more of a chip on his shoulder. 1 in 3 never applied to local kids.

As it pertains to OL recruiting and the 1 of 3 ...

Bainivalu SHOULD have been a slam dunk given location and that he was more of a PAC recruit than he was a national recruit.

Fozzy being an in-state kid SHOULD be a minor favorite to UW but going nationally isn't a complete shock historically ... the big miss here (assuming that he goes to Stanford) wasn't that he left but that there was at best a very small window where having any expectation that we could be in the lead was reasonable.

AVT wasn't a SoCal kid ... he was a NoCal kid. Because of that, the USC/UCLA pull SHOULD have been less ... add to it the fact that he goes to a school that not only have we recruited reasonably well as of late (see Camilo Eifler), but the HC of that school is probably on the short list of all-time Husky Legends in Nip ... this is a kid that we should have been able to win over with high end recruiting ... instead he chose USC BEFORE they had even turn things around ... that's a FAIL by us in recruiting.

AVT also chose USC before UW started rolling. so what is the point there?

 

[NEsnake12]

Can you guys take this off line?

 

[animate]

@animate

I'll be the last person to talk about general recruiting and saying it isn't going well ...

As for the OL this year, it's not just this year ... I suggest you find some of @Dennis_DeYoung comments on the topic

Well, I hear ya.

How about this?

It is what it is. Strausser doesn't appear to be a recruiting savant, ok I get that. But there seems to be some ol development there that we can be happy with.

Perhaps we could wish that strausser could be the ol equivalent of tosh lupoi. But he isn't so let's allow development to be strausser's strength then allow the team to win more and be further entrenched on the national scene under Petersen and get Petersen to close out the big uglies in the future (and QBs).

I mean, apart from complaining about strausser, what are you going to do? Just allow the play on the field to do the talking.

 

[Tequilla]

For those that like to say 1 in 3 recruiting is good ... I'd also like to point out that where that came from was that IF there were 3 elite prospects out of SoCal, the idea being that USC would get 1, UCLA would get 1, and UW would get 1 ... and that the reason the UW prospect would be better was because he'd get better coaching and have more of a chip on his shoulder. 1 in 3 never applied to local kids.

As it pertains to OL recruiting and the 1 of 3 ...

Bainivalu SHOULD have been a slam dunk given location and that he was more of a PAC recruit than he was a national recruit.

Fozzy being an in-state kid SHOULD be a minor favorite to UW but going nationally isn't a complete shock historically ... the big miss here (assuming that he goes to Stanford) wasn't that he left but that there was at best a very small window where having any expectation that we could be in the lead was reasonable.

AVT wasn't a SoCal kid ... he was a NoCal kid. Because of that, the USC/UCLA pull SHOULD have been less ... add to it the fact that he goes to a school that not only have we recruited reasonably well as of late (see Camilo Eifler), but the HC of that school is probably on the short list of all-time Husky Legends in Nip ... this is a kid that we should have been able to win over with high end recruiting ... instead he chose USC BEFORE they had even turn things around ... that's a FAIL by us in recruiting.

He was being crooted by Michigan lol STFU

Also pretty sure Michigan was full on the OL and he may not have had a commitable offer ... Dennis or Pepsi can probably speak better to that

 

[Tequilla]

Tequilla, Nobody cares. I always said I would love Pete if he won. I like discussing Husky Football because I've been a fan my whole life. What a confusing concept.

To you and many other dumb ass doog's surprise, I enjoy it when UW is good.

Sounds to me like you are a bandwagon front runner to me

 

[RoadDawg55]

Tequilla, Nobody cares. I always said I would love Pete if he won. I like discussing Husky Football because I've been a fan my whole life. What a confusing concept.

To you and many other dumb ass doog's surprise, I enjoy it when UW is good.

Sounds to me like you are a bandwagon front runner to me

Because I'm excited UW is actually good? I watched all the games when they sucked too.

 

[dhdawg]

Tequilla, Nobody cares. I always said I would love Pete if he won. I like discussing Husky Football because I've been a fan my whole life. What a confusing concept.

To you and many other dumb ass doog's surprise, I enjoy it when UW is good.

Sounds to me like you are a bandwagon front runner to me

Vagina. Sand. Full.

 

[bananasnblondes]

For those that like to say 1 in 3 recruiting is good ... I'd also like to point out that where that came from was that IF there were 3 elite prospects out of SoCal, the idea being that USC would get 1, UCLA would get 1, and UW would get 1 ... and that the reason the UW prospect would be better was because he'd get better coaching and have more of a chip on his shoulder. 1 in 3 never applied to local kids.

As it pertains to OL recruiting and the 1 of 3 ...

Bainivalu SHOULD have been a slam dunk given location and that he was more of a PAC recruit than he was a national recruit.

Fozzy being an in-state kid SHOULD be a minor favorite to UW but going nationally isn't a complete shock historically ... the big miss here (assuming that he goes to Stanford) wasn't that he left but that there was at best a very small window where having any expectation that we could be in the lead was reasonable.

AVT wasn't a SoCal kid ... he was a NoCal kid. Because of that, the USC/UCLA pull SHOULD have been less ... add to it the fact that he goes to a school that not only have we recruited reasonably well as of late (see Camilo Eifler), but the HC of that school is probably on the short list of all-time Husky Legends in Nip ... this is a kid that we should have been able to win over with high end recruiting ... instead he chose USC BEFORE they had even turn things around ... that's a FAIL by us in recruiting.

He was being crooted by Michigan lol STFU

Also pretty sure Michigan was full on the OL and he may not have had a commitable offer ... Dennis or Pepsi can probably speak better to that

So we should go ahead and add Bainavalu to your list of husky o line recruits that don't actually count?

 

[Tequilla]

For those that like to say 1 in 3 recruiting is good ... I'd also like to point out that where that came from was that IF there were 3 elite prospects out of SoCal, the idea being that USC would get 1, UCLA would get 1, and UW would get 1 ... and that the reason the UW prospect would be better was because he'd get better coaching and have more of a chip on his shoulder. 1 in 3 never applied to local kids.

As it pertains to OL recruiting and the 1 of 3 ...

Bainivalu SHOULD have been a slam dunk given location and that he was more of a PAC recruit than he was a national recruit.

Fozzy being an in-state kid SHOULD be a minor favorite to UW but going nationally isn't a complete shock historically ... the big miss here (assuming that he goes to Stanford) wasn't that he left but that there was at best a very small window where having any expectation that we could be in the lead was reasonable.

AVT wasn't a SoCal kid ... he was a NoCal kid. Because of that, the USC/UCLA pull SHOULD have been less ... add to it the fact that he goes to a school that not only have we recruited reasonably well as of late (see Camilo Eifler), but the HC of that school is probably on the short list of all-time Husky Legends in Nip ... this is a kid that we should have been able to win over with high end recruiting ... instead he chose USC BEFORE they had even turn things around ... that's a FAIL by us in recruiting.

He was being crooted by Michigan lol STFU

Also pretty sure Michigan was full on the OL and he may not have had a commitable offer ... Dennis or Pepsi can probably speak better to that

So we should go ahead and add Bainavalu to your list of husky o line recruits that don't actually count?

Go find any place where I said that ...

What I said was that you need a strong and deep class if competing at the national level ... if he is your 3rd or 4th OL that's a GREAT class ... if he is your best probably not deep enough ...

 

[Meek]

For those that like to say 1 in 3 recruiting is good ... I'd also like to point out that where that came from was that IF there were 3 elite prospects out of SoCal, the idea being that USC would get 1, UCLA would get 1, and UW would get 1 ... and that the reason the UW prospect would be better was because he'd get better coaching and have more of a chip on his shoulder. 1 in 3 never applied to local kids.

As it pertains to OL recruiting and the 1 of 3 ...

Bainivalu SHOULD have been a slam dunk given location and that he was more of a PAC recruit than he was a national recruit.

Fozzy being an in-state kid SHOULD be a minor favorite to UW but going nationally isn't a complete shock historically ... the big miss here (assuming that he goes to Stanford) wasn't that he left but that there was at best a very small window where having any expectation that we could be in the lead was reasonable.

AVT wasn't a SoCal kid ... he was a NoCal kid. Because of that, the USC/UCLA pull SHOULD have been less ... add to it the fact that he goes to a school that not only have we recruited reasonably well as of late (see Camilo Eifler), but the HC of that school is probably on the short list of all-time Husky Legends in Nip ... this is a kid that we should have been able to win over with high end recruiting ... instead he chose USC BEFORE they had even turn things around ... that's a FAIL by us in recruiting.

He was being crooted by Michigan lol STFU

Also pretty sure Michigan was full on the OL and he may not have had a commitable offer ... Dennis or Pepsi can probably speak better to that

So we should go ahead and add Bainavalu to your list of husky o line recruits that don't actually count?

Go find any place where I said that ...

What I said was that you need a strong and deep class if competing at the national level ... if he is your 3rd or 4th OL that's a GREAT class ... if he is your best probably not deep enough ...

Wait if Bainivalu is your best online recruit that's a problem?

Just stop talking.

 

[RoadDawg55]

For those that like to say 1 in 3 recruiting is good ... I'd also like to point out that where that came from was that IF there were 3 elite prospects out of SoCal, the idea being that USC would get 1, UCLA would get 1, and UW would get 1 ... and that the reason the UW prospect would be better was because he'd get better coaching and have more of a chip on his shoulder. 1 in 3 never applied to local kids.

As it pertains to OL recruiting and the 1 of 3 ...

Bainivalu SHOULD have been a slam dunk given location and that he was more of a PAC recruit than he was a national recruit.

Fozzy being an in-state kid SHOULD be a minor favorite to UW but going nationally isn't a complete shock historically ... the big miss here (assuming that he goes to Stanford) wasn't that he left but that there was at best a very small window where having any expectation that we could be in the lead was reasonable.

AVT wasn't a SoCal kid ... he was a NoCal kid. Because of that, the USC/UCLA pull SHOULD have been less ... add to it the fact that he goes to a school that not only have we recruited reasonably well as of late (see Camilo Eifler), but the HC of that school is probably on the short list of all-time Husky Legends in Nip ... this is a kid that we should have been able to win over with high end recruiting ... instead he chose USC BEFORE they had even turn things around ... that's a FAIL by us in recruiting.

He was being crooted by Michigan lol STFU

Also pretty sure Michigan was full on the OL and he may not have had a commitable offer ... Dennis or Pepsi can probably speak better to that

So we should go ahead and add Bainavalu to your list of husky o line recruits that don't actually count?

Go find any place where I said that ...

What I said was that you need a strong and deep class if competing at the national level ... if he is your 3rd or 4th OL that's a GREAT class ... if he is your best probably not deep enough ...

According to 24/7 Bainivulu is the highest rated OL Petersen has ever gotten. Higher than Adams, McGary, Roberts, and Wattenberg.

 

[Tequilla]

For those that like to say 1 in 3 recruiting is good ... I'd also like to point out that where that came from was that IF there were 3 elite prospects out of SoCal, the idea being that USC would get 1, UCLA would get 1, and UW would get 1 ... and that the reason the UW prospect would be better was because he'd get better coaching and have more of a chip on his shoulder. 1 in 3 never applied to local kids.

As it pertains to OL recruiting and the 1 of 3 ...

Bainivalu SHOULD have been a slam dunk given location and that he was more of a PAC recruit than he was a national recruit.

Fozzy being an in-state kid SHOULD be a minor favorite to UW but going nationally isn't a complete shock historically ... the big miss here (assuming that he goes to Stanford) wasn't that he left but that there was at best a very small window where having any expectation that we could be in the lead was reasonable.

AVT wasn't a SoCal kid ... he was a NoCal kid. Because of that, the USC/UCLA pull SHOULD have been less ... add to it the fact that he goes to a school that not only have we recruited reasonably well as of late (see Camilo Eifler), but the HC of that school is probably on the short list of all-time Husky Legends in Nip ... this is a kid that we should have been able to win over with high end recruiting ... instead he chose USC BEFORE they had even turn things around ... that's a FAIL by us in recruiting.

He was being crooted by Michigan lol STFU

Also pretty sure Michigan was full on the OL and he may not have had a commitable offer ... Dennis or Pepsi can probably speak better to that

So we should go ahead and add Bainavalu to your list of husky o line recruits that don't actually count?

Go find any place where I said that ...

What I said was that you need a strong and deep class if competing at the national level ... if he is your 3rd or 4th OL that's a GREAT class ... if he is your best probably not deep enough ...

According to 24/7 Bainivulu is the highest rated OL Petersen has ever gotten. Higher than Adams, McGary, Roberts, and Wattenberg.

And how many OL do you start?

You need more than 1 elite high end guy per class ... I know that's hard for you and a few others around here to understand.