For those wondering why the millionaires are kneeling

That's sobering. I don't blame him for being pissed. But your subject line is misleading. It should say "For those wondering why Michael Bennett is kneeling"
 
That's sobering. I don't blame him for being pissed. But your subject line is misleading. It should say "For those wondering why Michael Bennett is kneeling"
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I think Boobs' poont is this isn't an isolated incident.

I've talked to too many upstanding citizens with high melanin content who have had similar experiences to disagree.
 
That's sobering. I don't blame him for being pissed. But your subject line is misleading. It should say "For those wondering why Michael Bennett is kneeling"
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I think Boobs' poont is this isn't an isolated incident.

I've talked to too many upstanding citizens with high melanin content who have had similar experiences to disagree.
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Exactly.

You said it better than I would have.
 
That's sobering. I don't blame him for being pissed. But your subject line is misleading. It should say "For those wondering why Michael Bennett is kneeling"
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I think Boobs' poont is this isn't an isolated incident.

I've talked to too many upstanding citizens with high melanin content who have had similar experiences to disagree.
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While we are throwing out anecdotes, my brother in law is half black and in the past two years has been cuffed and put in the back of a cop car twice for crimes he didn't commit. He's smart enough to stay calm and let them sort things out, but it's easy to see how things could escalate.

Most black people don't get the benefit of the doubt with police. That's reality.
 
http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/06/michael-bennett-arrest-video/

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It happened in Vegas... there's for sure going to be more footage of this that comes out from security sources or others. It happened over a week ago, which means Bennett probably now knows he has the evidence to back up what he's saying.

Pretty damning overall and I wouldn't be shocked if more Seahawks players kneel with him.
 
It happened in Vegas... there's for sure going to be more footage of this that comes out from security sources or others. It happened over a week ago, which means Bennett probably now knows he has the evidence to back up what he's saying.

Pretty damning overall and I wouldn't be shocked if more Seahawks players kneel with him.
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Guarantee there will be a bunch of them kneeling, if not all of them after this.

I don't think that's damning evidence though. All it does is confirm Bennett was handcuffed, it doesn't confirm innocence nor brutality.

But I'm chinclined to believe Bennett's story.
 
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It happened in Vegas... there's for sure going to be more footage of this that comes out from security sources or others. It happened over a week ago, which means Bennett probably now knows he has the evidence to back up what he's saying.

Pretty damning overall and I wouldn't be shocked if more Seahawks players kneel with him.
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Guarantee there will be a bunch of them kneeling, if not all of them after this.

I don't think that's damning evidence though. All it does is confirm Bennett was handcuffed, it doesn't confirm innocence nor brutality.

But I'm chinclined to believe Bennett's story.
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I was saying that there's probably more footage besides the TMZ stuff. Security cameras and whatnot
 
It happened in Vegas... there's for sure going to be more footage of this that comes out from security sources or others. It happened over a week ago, which means Bennett probably now knows he has the evidence to back up what he's saying.

Pretty damning overall and I wouldn't be shocked if more Seahawks players kneel with him.
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Guarantee there will be a bunch of them kneeling, if not all of them after this.

I don't think that's damning evidence though. All it does is confirm Bennett was handcuffed, it doesn't confirm innocence nor brutality.

But I'm chinclined to believe Bennett's story.
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I was saying that there's probably more footage besides the TMZ stuff. Security cameras and whatnot
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I was just responding to the "pretty damning overall" statement. My expectation is that you are correct, just saying it's not to that poont yet.
 
I just wish it weren't a racial issue. It's a cop issue, really. They overstep their boundaries to varying degrees too often, and they do it people of all races. Making it a racial issue just alienates white people who would otherwise support this cause.
 
I just wish it weren't a racial issue. It's a cop issue, really. They overstep their boundaries to varying degrees too often, and they do it people of all races. Making it a racial issue just alienates white people who would otherwise support this cause.
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Then how come all of my black friends have had these experiences but only my meth head white friends have?

It's a racial issue.
 
I just wish it weren't a racial issue. It's a cop issue, really. They overstep their boundaries to varying degrees too often, and they do it people of all races. Making it a racial issue just alienates white people who would otherwise support this cause.
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Then how come all of my black friends have had these experiences but only my meth head white friends have?

It's a racial issue.
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Gneau any white friends who have been falsely accused, detained, or just flat out fucked up by cops and left in the gutter? I know plenty.

Ever been to Boston?

More of a cop issue.

But continue on with the crusade.
 
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I just wish it weren't a racial issue. It's a cop issue, really. They overstep their boundaries to varying degrees too often, and they do it people of all races. Making it a racial issue just alienates white people who would otherwise support this cause.
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Then how come all of my black friends have had these experiences but only my meth head white friends have?

It's a racial issue.
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No any white friends who have been falsely accused, detained, or just flat out fucked up by cops and left in the gutter? I know plenty.

Ever been to a Boston?

More of a cop issue.

But continue on with the crusade.
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It's both.

Cops abuse their power AND disproportionately abuse it against black people.

HTH
 
I just wish it weren't a racial issue. It's a cop issue, really. They overstep their boundaries to varying degrees too often, and they do it people of all races. Making it a racial issue just alienates white people who would otherwise support this cause.
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Then how come all of my black friends have had these experiences but only my meth head white friends have?

It's a racial issue.
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You have black AND meth head friends?!!!

DDN: "The most Chinteresting Man on Earth!!"
 
I just wish it weren't a racial issue. It's a cop issue, really. They overstep their boundaries to varying degrees too often, and they do it people of all races. Making it a racial issue just alienates white people who would otherwise support this cause.
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Then how come all of my black friends have had these experiences but only my meth head white friends have?

It's a racial issue.
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I've been cuffed and taken downtown for the most silly of infractions and I'm not a meth using white person??
 
I just wish it weren't a racial issue. It's a cop issue, really. They overstep their boundaries to varying degrees too often, and they do it people of all races. Making it a racial issue just alienates white people who would otherwise support this cause.
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Then how come all of my black friends have had these experiences but only my meth head white friends have?

It's a racial issue.
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I'm not saying black people don't experience it more often. That's probably true. And while a whitey like myself has never experienced the extreme end of it, I have experienced blatant and unprofessional misuses of their power, and so have lots of white people. As such, there are white people who would love to join in on the fight for better behaving cops...but why should they if society is going to treat black people as the only victims?

Police abusing their power is the main problem. Who they're directing that abuse toward is also a problem, but it's secondary IMO, because if they simply shifted to abusing their power against everyone equally, we still have the same problem of them abusing their power.
 
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