Unrelated to your post, but I remember doogs on doogman loving recruits that wrestled. I would always argue that while there have been good wrestlers that were good football players, if the kid was really a great athlete, he’s playing basketball.
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Horrible advice. Football, basketball, baseball. Other sports are for the kids that can’t cut it in those.
Row boat is a funny sport because it's driven by rare human V02 max. You can have a shitty basketball player be an elite rower while an elite basketball player might not have the VO2 max for row boat.
But yeah, I'm dumb and don't listen to Creep. We're all in on hoops due to mom.
I will say, tennis is a great sport to get a kid with good hand eye coordination into. Yella, your kids have got to be pretty good sized and athletic, so that is a good sport to get them into if you or Mrs. Yella don’t let them play football.
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Right, but that's the point. If you're trying to get your kid into a school with single digit admission percentages, those schools have all those sports and need people to play them. Planning to have your kid get recruited to play hoops at Stanford is a low probability plan.
Having said that, I encourage everyone reading this to do as Yella is doing. I have grand kids. Less competition is better competition. We? play the long game in the creepy household.
Mrs Yella dreams of going back in time and being a pro tennis star. She would have been great at it.
creepycoug
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Tennis is another high-barrier sport in that the vast majority of people will need professional coaching to get to an elite level because that's what you're up against. Other than Mr. Williams and his two mega athletes, they're not coaching tennis in low SES environments and the kid who knows how to play is going to eat up the natural athlete who doesn't really know what they're doing.
In my yute, I was 50X the athlete Mrs. creep was relative to gender. Mrs. creep was an all-state tennis player. Other than the occasional hard serve I would accidentally come up with here and there, she mostly had me running all over the court knocking balls out of play all over the place. Made a fool ole creep.
You gotta start tennis young if you plan to play D1 at some place anybody has heard of.
I grew up with my parents loving tennis and we played it as a core sport as a family, but any time we played against outside people that destroyed us, they were of generational wealth. It's a huge turn off of the sport in general.
creepycoug
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100%. I have watched people who don't seem very athletic or even competitive just make fools of people who have those traits but who don't play or don't play enough or haven't been playing since they were very young. And like golf and baseball, if you really want to get good, you have to invest the time that most people don't want to or can't invest.
@creepycoug is clearly not the Bobby Riggs of the Harb!
Also, it seems like basketball is trending away from sport with low socio economic barrier.
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Pro sports have long seemed like the closest thing we have to a true meritocracy. But maybe not anymore.
One of the Throbber's two dads was a tennis coach - he'd fill out the roster with hoop players.
Young Throbber was hitting with high school varsity players while in grade school and was ranked in juniors.
Then young Throbber grew 9 inches one summer and decided playing hoops was the ticket to riches. Young Throbber did not factor in his skin color and inability/unwillingness to play D.
One of the very few regrets in life. Giving up tennis. Playing D is still for losers.
We had this family from Catholic church that my parents became friends with. I was too young at the time to understand that these white people in Camas had a "primary residence" in Hawaii but chose to live in a mansion on Livingston mountain, and the husband did nothing. All inheritance.
Anyways my parents only hated getting their asses kicked on the tennis court. Because yes, these people weren't athletic.
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Hockey is pretty unique in that you are playing a game with the hands dexterity and finesse of basketball combined with the physicality of football while needing to be excellent at an entirely separate sport in skating. Generally "athleticism" is helpful but the amount of skills you need to round your game out can quickly overshadow someone who's got no hands or vision
Goalies are just kickers in pads. All weirdos
Hockey is pretty unique in that you are playing a game with the hands dexterity and finesse of basketball combined with the physicality of football while needing to be excellent at an entirely separate sport in skating. Generally "athleticism" is helpful but the amount of skills you need to round your game out can quickly overshadow someone who's got no hands or vision
Goalies are just kickers in pads. All weirdos
Hockey is above football. In football there would be some athletic guy in another sport that the coaches were trying to court to go play tight end for us.
You obviously can't just collect stats in football and then think you're going to skate like a non retard, let alone be a competent hockey player.