Finals Prediction Pole

[dnc]

What if I told you the 2017 Finals weren't about LBJ stepping up as GOAT but about Durant beginning a run of four straight titles and staking the claim?

Durant is a soft cunt. He's never staking a claim.

People said the same things about LeBron at one point.

I think KDs absolute ceiling is number 3 all time. Most likely he settles into the 7-12 range. But there's a chance he stays outside the top 25 if he never wins a ring besides this year.

If he wins at least three (especially if he can a couple finals MVPs) the super teams asterisk will fade hard.

But yeah I don't ever see him in the GOAT convo.

Kobe won 3 with Shaq and had to win again to shake the can't win without Shaq tag. The asterisk will fade when he wins without a super team and that's not happening because he's a front running loser. Durant's career will always be defined by game 6 and 7 last year vs the Warriors. He wasn't good enough to be the man so he ran to ride someone else's coat tails.

I don't think it's the same - Shaq was clearly the best player on at least two of those 3 titles with Kobe and probably all three though IIRC Kobe had one better finals. If the Warriors rip off the next three I think history remembers KD as the best player on the teams (depending perhaps on how KD and Steph do in the Finals). But if he goes down as the best player on three title teams, his legacy will be fine.

If he's Steph's number two then I agree but I think that's unlikely.

I think it was year 2 of the Shaq/Kobe 3 peat where Kobe dominated. So did Shaq. They only lost one game the entire playoffs.

Fair or not, Durant and Steph need to win a few titles in a row (it seems very possible) to really have an elite legacy. I think Durant joining GS hurts Steph's more than it hurts his own.

Steph might have been able to win 3+ without KD.

Agree with that 100%. KD takes over as Batman. Steph got demoted to Robin.

The only saving grace for Steph's legacy is that he won one without KD (so he won't get the "Kobe only won with Shaq" criticism or the "LBJ had to join forces with Wade and Bosh to win" criticisms, even if those were eventually disproven) but 2 or 3 rings as Batman >>> 1 ring as Batman and 3 as Robin, there's just no way around that.

If this becomes a dynasty, Curry basically becomes the new DWade to KD's LBJ, though at least he didn't need Shaq to get his first one.

 

[allpurpleallgold]

I genuinely don't understand what you're doing here. We saw Durant as "Batman" last season. He wasn't up to it. Now you're crediting him for winning a championship on a team that would have been the favorite to win without him? Ok.

Congrats to Durant on being able to make wide open jumpers up by 20. He's totally Michael Jordan.

 

[dnc]

I genuinely don't understand what you're doing here. We saw Durant as "Batman" last season. He wasn't up to it. Now you're crediting him for winning a championship on a team that would have been the favorite to win without him? Ok.

Congrats to Durant on being able to make wide open jumpers up by 20. He's totally Michael Jordan.

I'm not crediting him with shit. I'm talking about how history's going to remember him. And if they win 3 and he gets multiple Finals MVP's, this is how he'll be remembered.

Narratives change over time as Lebron has demonstrated. This KD narrative only sticks if he doesn't win or Steph emerges as the Alpha.

 

[Doogles]

Jordan didn't win his first title until he was 28. People forget that.

If Durant goes off and is a finals mvp 3x he will make his name regardless.

Jordan won most of his titles on super teams too. If you knock Durant for losing to the 73 win warriors, you have to knock Jordon for losing to the bad boy pistons.

 

[haie]

Jordan didn't win his first title until he was 28. People forget that.

If Durant goes off and is a finals mvp 3x he will make his name regardless.

Jordan won most of his titles on super teams too. If you knock Durant for losing to the 73 win warriors, you have to knock Jordon for losing to the bad boy pistons.

His failures with the Thunder are damning and the main difference here. He had plenty of help in OKC to prove himself. He should have gone to D.C., but he's scared shitless of Lebrom unless he has GS roster behind him. He's a pussy faggit.

 

[Doogles]

Jordan didn't win his first title until he was 28. People forget that.

If Durant goes off and is a finals mvp 3x he will make his name regardless.

Jordan won most of his titles on super teams too. If you knock Durant for losing to the 73 win warriors, you have to knock Jordon for losing to the bad boy pistons.

His failures with the Thunder are damning and the main difference here. He had plenty of help in OKC to prove himself. He should have gone to D.C., but he's scared shitless of Lebrom unless he has GS roster behind him. He's a pussy faggit.

Disagree. Embrace the Durantula.

 

[RavennaDawg]

Jalen with the Iceberg Slim reference.

 

[dnc]

Der Golve is our first prognosticator eliminated.

Good job, good effort.

FO, G is alone no longer as he welcomes @RaceBannon and @RavennaDawg to his prestigious club.

Sounds like citrus.

 

[dnc]

Der Golve is our first prognosticator eliminated.

Good job, good effort.

FO, G is alone no longer as he welcomes @RaceBannon and @RavennaDawg to his prestigious club.

Sounds like citrus.

Glove, Race and Ravenna have added @PurpleJ and @whlinder to the eliminated starting 5.

@allpurpleallgold and @Doogles looking good.

 

[PurpleThrobber]

Der Golve is our first prognosticator eliminated.

Good job, good effort.

FO, G is alone no longer as he welcomes @RaceBannon and @RavennaDawg to his prestigious club.

Sounds like citrus.

Glove, Race and Ravenna have added @PurpleJ and @whlinder to the eliminated starting 5.

@allpurpleallgold and @Doogles looking good.

Cavs will take Game 4 - and if not, Rashard Lewis picked the wrong softy.

 

[dnc]

Der Golve is our first prognosticator eliminated.

Good job, good effort.

FO, G is alone no longer as he welcomes @RaceBannon and @RavennaDawg to his prestigious club.

Sounds like citrus.

Glove, Race and Ravenna have added @PurpleJ and @whlinder to the eliminated starting 5.

@allpurpleallgold and @Doogles looking good.

Down goes @allpurpleallgold and @Doogles. Next up, the LeBron haters @TierbsHsotBoobs, @Tequila (bff's!), @PurpleThrobber and @DubSixGamer (who?).

7 people eliminated, now Sven with a chance to win it. Feels right.

 

[TierbsHsotBoobs]

Der Golve is our first prognosticator eliminated.

Good job, good effort.

FO, G is alone no longer as he welcomes @RaceBannon and @RavennaDawg to his prestigious club.

Sounds like citrus.

Glove, Race and Ravenna have added @PurpleJ and @whlinder to the eliminated starting 5.

@allpurpleallgold and @Doogles looking good.

Down goes @allpurpleallgold and @Doogles. Next up, the LeBron haters @TierbsHsotBoobs, @Tequila (bff's!), @PurpleThrobber and @DubSixGamer (who?).

7 people eliminated, now Sven with a chance to win it. Feels right.

NTD, BB

 

[PurpleThrobber]

Der Golve is our first prognosticator eliminated.

Good job, good effort.

FO, G is alone no longer as he welcomes @RaceBannon and @RavennaDawg to his prestigious club.

Sounds like citrus.

Glove, Race and Ravenna have added @PurpleJ and @whlinder to the eliminated starting 5.

@allpurpleallgold and @Doogles looking good.

Down goes @allpurpleallgold and @Doogles. Next up, the LeBron haters @TierbsHsotBoobs, @Tequila (bff's!), @PurpleThrobber and @DubSixGamer (who?).

7 people eliminated, now Sven with a chance to win it. Feels right.

I don't hate Bron bron - he's just not the GOAT. And never will be. Jordan never relied on Pippen to drop 40 to stave off a sweep.

 

[RavennaDawg]

Der Golve is our first prognosticator eliminated.

Good job, good effort.

FO, G is alone no longer as he welcomes @RaceBannon and @RavennaDawg to his prestigious club.

Sounds like citrus.

Glove, Race and Ravenna have added @PurpleJ and @whlinder to the eliminated starting 5.

@allpurpleallgold and @Doogles looking good.

Down goes @allpurpleallgold and @Doogles. Next up, the LeBron haters @TierbsHsotBoobs, @Tequila (bff's!), @PurpleThrobber and @DubSixGamer (who?).

7 people eliminated, now Sven with a chance to win it. Feels right.

I don't hate Bron bron - he's just not the GOAT. And never will be. Jordan never relied on Pippen to drop 40 to stave off a sweep.

You're right he didn't need Pippen. Jordan just got swept on his own.

Twice.

And he didn't need a 40 point game from Pippen. He needed a 30 point game from Sam Vincent.

 

[PurpleJ]

Stop mentioning me fags. Cavs in 7. Everyone always wrong. Purp always right.

 

[Doogles]

Der Golve is our first prognosticator eliminated.

Good job, good effort.

FO, G is alone no longer as he welcomes @RaceBannon and @RavennaDawg to his prestigious club.

Sounds like citrus.

Glove, Race and Ravenna have added @PurpleJ and @whlinder to the eliminated starting 5.

@allpurpleallgold and @Doogles looking good.

Down goes @allpurpleallgold and @Doogles. Next up, the LeBron haters @TierbsHsotBoobs, @Tequila (bff's!), @PurpleThrobber and @DubSixGamer (who?).

7 people eliminated, now Sven with a chance to win it. Feels right.

Sad!

 

[PurpleThrobber]

Der Golve is our first prognosticator eliminated.

Good job, good effort.

FO, G is alone no longer as he welcomes @RaceBannon and @RavennaDawg to his prestigious club.

Sounds like citrus.

Glove, Race and Ravenna have added @PurpleJ and @whlinder to the eliminated starting 5.

@allpurpleallgold and @Doogles looking good.

Down goes @allpurpleallgold and @Doogles. Next up, the LeBron haters @TierbsHsotBoobs, @Tequila (bff's!), @PurpleThrobber and @DubSixGamer (who?).

7 people eliminated, now Sven with a chance to win it. Feels right.

I don't hate Bron bron - he's just not the GOAT. And never will be. Jordan never relied on Pippen to drop 40 to stave off a sweep.

You're right he didn't need Pippen. Jordan just got swept on his own.

Twice.

And he didn't need a 40 point game from Pippen. He needed a 30 point game from Sam Vincent.

Fuuuuuuck.

Getting swept by Bird, McHale and Parrish means jack shit. The 85-86 Celtics squad is EASILY Top 5 all-time NBA teams. Don't hate because it was a bunch of white guys.

Bron bron would cry the first time he had to take an elbow across his head from any of those three.

Seriously - that is the weakest argument against Jordan ever. Meme-like quality.

 

[RoadDawg55]

Der Golve is our first prognosticator eliminated.

Good job, good effort.

FO, G is alone no longer as he welcomes @RaceBannon and @RavennaDawg to his prestigious club.

Sounds like citrus.

Glove, Race and Ravenna have added @PurpleJ and @whlinder to the eliminated starting 5.

@allpurpleallgold and @Doogles looking good.

Down goes @allpurpleallgold and @Doogles. Next up, the LeBron haters @TierbsHsotBoobs, @Tequila (bff's!), @PurpleThrobber and @DubSixGamer (who?).

7 people eliminated, now Sven with a chance to win it. Feels right.

I don't hate Bron bron - he's just not the GOAT. And never will be. Jordan never relied on Pippen to drop 40 to stave off a sweep.

That's because the games were 86-82 types against the Utah Jazz.

Basketball has gotten better. Same for football. The old style was archaic and shows how few coach's actually innovate.

 

[PurpleJ]

I genuinely don't understand what you're doing here. We saw Durant as "Batman" last season. He wasn't up to it. Now you're crediting him for winning a championship on a team that would have been the favorite to win without him? Ok.

Congrats to Durant on being able to make wide open jumpers up by 20. He's totally Michael Jordan.

Batman died today. Cavs in 7.

 

[PurpleThrobber]

Der Golve is our first prognosticator eliminated.

Good job, good effort.

FO, G is alone no longer as he welcomes @RaceBannon and @RavennaDawg to his prestigious club.

Sounds like citrus.

Glove, Race and Ravenna have added @PurpleJ and @whlinder to the eliminated starting 5.

@allpurpleallgold and @Doogles looking good.

Down goes @allpurpleallgold and @Doogles. Next up, the LeBron haters @TierbsHsotBoobs, @Tequila (bff's!), @PurpleThrobber and @DubSixGamer (who?).

7 people eliminated, now Sven with a chance to win it. Feels right.

I don't hate Bron bron - he's just not the GOAT. And never will be. Jordan never relied on Pippen to drop 40 to stave off a sweep.

That's because the games were 86-82 types against the Utah Jazz.

Basketball has gotten better. Same for football. The old style was archaic and shows how few coach's actually innovate.

Nega. Please.

Showtime Lakers and Bird Celtics put up points. Don't confuse your late 90's shit ball with real players who had skills and could run the lanes.