FAN PODCAST: Analysis of 2013 Schedule & Metrics for Improvement

[MikeDamone]

Its a young but experienced team who returns lots of players for this year but also next year.

Does not compute.

Make sure to lather before you rinse.

Its possible to be young and experienced at the same time. Think Sankey, Shelton, Kasen, Timu, etc. These guys have experience but still have half their career left. Shaq could be considered experienced by the second half of this year (would be starting close to his 20th game). Whereas a guy who hasn't played until his 3rd or 4th year would be not experienced. Its actually a good position to be in and why we should expect to be a lot better this season and next season. Glad I could clear that up for you.

There is a difference between having young talent and being a young team overall.

You seem to be forgetting the part where we only lost a handful of players that were worth two shits from last years team. I count 13 Seniors and 24 Juniors on this years' roster. Go ahead and compare that to some of the other successful teams in the conference last year, if you want. The difference is coaching.

I respect the fact that you took the time to make a podcast and contribute content, but you should really consider some constructive criticism if you are to be successful with your future endeavors.

Also, the guy who won the Heisman last year was a Freshman. I don't really buy into the youth excuses.

If you want to offer constructive criticism, next time actually listen before commenting on it. I never mentioned anything about a young team (IIRC) in the podcast. Better yet, just go dive head first into a bonfire.

Sounds like Purple J is just here to beat his chest. I'm hearing he won't last long.

Violent J > Purple J.

 

[PurpleJ]

You initiated a rant based on nothing in the podcast.

Whatever.....but do jump in a fire though.

Next time I will only talk about the podcast and just ignore the words you write in your posts.

Silly me. I thought this was a message board or something.

If you have to blindly defend everything you say and downthumb everything I say in response, you won't last long.

 

[[Deleted User]]

You initiated a rant based on nothing in the podcast.

Whatever.....but do jump in a fire though.

Next time I will only talk about the podcast and just ignore the words you write in your posts.

Silly me. I thought this was a message board or something.

If you have to blindly defend everything you say and downthumb everything I say in response, you won't last long.

That's because he is just here to beat his chest.

 

[BennyBeaver]

Its a young but experienced team who returns lots of players for this year but also next year.

Does not compute.

Make sure to lather before you rinse.

Its possible to be young and experienced at the same time. Think Sankey, Shelton, Kasen, Timu, etc. These guys have experience but still have half their career left. Shaq could be considered experienced by the second half of this year (would be starting close to his 20th game). Whereas a guy who hasn't played until his 3rd or 4th year would be not experienced. Its actually a good position to be in and why we should expect to be a lot better this season and next season. Glad I could clear that up for you.

There is a difference between having young talent and being a young team overall.

You seem to be forgetting the part where we only lost a handful of players that were worth two shits from last years team. I count 13 Seniors and 24 Juniors on this years' roster. Go ahead and compare that to some of the other successful teams in the conference last year, if you want. The difference is coaching.

I respect the fact that you took the time to make a podcast and contribute content, but you should really consider some constructive criticism if you are to be successful with your future endeavors.

Also, the guy who won the Heisman last year was a Freshman. I don't really buy into the youth excuses.

If you want to offer constructive criticism, next time listen before commenting on it. I never mentioned anything about a young team (IIRC). Better yet, just go dive head first into a bonfire.

I actually did listen to the whole thing.

You mentioned youth in your post. Did you not? That's why I was quoting it with the quotes and stuff.

Not trying to be a dick here. Just trying to give you a bit of perspective on the argument you made in your post.

The fire thing was creative, though. Props.

I appreciate the listen. I think it is fair to say we are experienced, but other than Parker, Price, and probably ASJ, the rest of the team will be back next year. I think that qualifies as a young team, seeing as we are only losing 3 good players. As long as one of the 4* QB's is good, we should have a very strong team in 2014.

If we had a better coach, I would even say we should compete with Oregon for a Pac 12 title in 2014 because Stanford loses a lot of studs off their defense after this year. With Sark, I think we will be pretty good, but not as good as we should be. That's the problem with average coaches.

I agree whole heartedly about the problem being coaching. If it were up to me, Sark would already be gone after last year, but I do think if we won 9, there would be reason for some optimism for the future.

there's no shame in losing in Corvallis. check the facts.

 

[PurpleJ]

You initiated a rant based on nothing in the podcast.

Whatever.....but do jump in a fire though.

Next time I will only talk about the podcast and just ignore the words you write in your posts.

Silly me. I thought this was a message board or something.

If you have to blindly defend everything you say and downthumb everything I say in response, you won't last long.

That's because he is just here to beat his chest.

Don't you need to be right about something in order to do that?

 

[[Deleted User]]

You initiated a rant based on nothing in the podcast.

Whatever.....but do jump in a fire though.

Next time I will only talk about the podcast and just ignore the words you write in your posts.

Silly me. I thought this was a message board or something.

If you have to blindly defend everything you say and downthumb everything I say in response, you won't last long.

That's because he is just here to beat his chest.

Don't you need to be right about something in order to do that?

You initiated a rant based on nothing in the podcast.

Whatever.....but do jump in a fire though.

Next time I will only talk about the podcast and just ignore the words you write in your posts.

Silly me. I thought this was a message board or something.

If you have to blindly defend everything you say and downthumb everything I say in

response, you won't last long.

That's because he is just here to beat his chest.

Don't you need to be right about something in order to do that?

Kim is never right and he beats his chest all the time.

 

[PurpleJ]

You initiated a rant based on nothing in the podcast.

Whatever.....but do jump in a fire though.

Next time I will only talk about the podcast and just ignore the words you write in your posts.

Silly me. I thought this was a message board or something.

If you have to blindly defend everything you say and downthumb everything I say in response, you won't last long.

That's because he is just here to beat his chest.

Don't you need to be right about something in order to do that?

You initiated a rant based on nothing in the podcast.

Whatever.....but do jump in a fire though.

Next time I will only talk about the podcast and just ignore the words you write in your posts.

Silly me. I thought this was a message board or something.

If you have to blindly defend everything you say and downthumb everything I say in

response, you won't last long.

That's because he is just here to beat his chest.

Don't you need to be right about something in order to do that?

Kim is never right and he beats his chest all the time.

Don't you need a chest that isn't dwarfed by a regulation size football in order to do that?

 

[HeretoBeatmyChest]

You initiated a rant based on nothing in the podcast.

Whatever.....but do jump in a fire though.

Next time I will only talk about the podcast and just ignore the words you write in your posts.

Silly me. I thought this was a message board or something.

If you have to blindly defend everything you say and downthumb everything I say in response, you won't last long.

That's because he is just here to beat his chest.

Don't you need to be right about something in order to do that?

You initiated a rant based on nothing in the podcast.

Whatever.....but do jump in a fire though.

Next time I will only talk about the podcast and just ignore the words you write in your posts.

Silly me. I thought this was a message board or something.

If you have to blindly defend everything you say and downthumb everything I say in

response, you won't last long.

That's because he is just here to beat his chest.

Don't you need to be right about something in order to do that?

Kim is never right and he beats his chest all the time.

Don't you need a chest that isn't dwarfed by a regulation size football in order to do that?

If you are here to beat up on Kim, then you will last long.

 

[Swaye]

Its a young but experienced team who returns lots of players for this year but also next year.

Does not compute.

Make sure to lather before you rinse.

Its possible to be young and experienced at the same time. Think Sankey, Shelton, Kasen, Timu, etc. These guys have experience but still have half their career left. Shaq could be considered experienced by the second half of this year (would be starting close to his 20th game). Whereas a guy who hasn't played until his 3rd or 4th year would be not experienced. Its actually a good position to be in and why we should expect to be a lot better this season and next season. Glad I could clear that up for you.

There is a difference between having young talent and being a young team overall.

You seem to be forgetting the part where we only lost a handful of players that were worth two shits from last years team. I count 13 Seniors and 24 Juniors on this years' roster. Go ahead and compare that to some of the other successful teams in the conference last year, if you want. The difference is coaching.

I respect the fact that you took the time to make a podcast and contribute content, but you should really consider some constructive criticism if you are to be successful with your future endeavors.

Also, the guy who won the Heisman last year was a Freshman. I don't really buy into the youth excuses.

If you want to offer constructive criticism, next time actually listen before commenting on it. I never mentioned anything about a young team (IIRC) in the podcast. Better yet, just go dive head first into a bonfire.

Sounds like Purple J is just here to beat his chest. I'm hearing he won't last long.

He is pretty classy though.

 

[Swaye]

Its a young but experienced team who returns lots of players for this year but also next year.

Does not compute.

Make sure to lather before you rinse.

Its possible to be young and experienced at the same time. Think Sankey, Shelton, Kasen, Timu, etc. These guys have experience but still have half their career left. Shaq could be considered experienced by the second half of this year (would be starting close to his 20th game). Whereas a guy who hasn't played until his 3rd or 4th year would be not experienced. Its actually a good position to be in and why we should expect to be a lot better this season and next season. Glad I could clear that up for you.

There is a difference between having young talent and being a young team overall.

You seem to be forgetting the part where we only lost a handful of players that were worth two shits from last years team. I count 13 Seniors and 24 Juniors on this years' roster. Go ahead and compare that to some of the other successful teams in the conference last year, if you want. The difference is coaching.

I respect the fact that you took the time to make a podcast and contribute content, but you should really consider some constructive criticism if you are to be successful with your future endeavors.

Also, the guy who won the Heisman last year was a Freshman. I don't really buy into the youth excuses.

If you want to offer constructive criticism, next time listen before commenting on it. I never mentioned anything about a young team (IIRC). Better yet, just go dive head first into a bonfire.

I actually did listen to the whole thing.

You mentioned youth in your post. Did you not? That's why I was quoting it with the quotes and stuff.

Not trying to be a dick here. Just trying to give you a bit of perspective on the argument you made in your post.

The fire thing was creative, though. Props.

I appreciate the listen. I think it is fair to say we are experienced, but other than Parker, Price, and probably ASJ, the rest of the team will be back next year. I think that qualifies as a young team, seeing as we are only losing 3 good players. As long as one of the 4* QB's is good, we should have a very strong team in 2014.

If we had a better coach, I would even say we should compete with Oregon for a Pac 12 title in 2014 because Stanford loses a lot of studs off their defense after this year. With Sark, I think we will be pretty good, but not as good as we should be. That's the problem with average coaches.

I agree whole heartedly about the problem being coaching. If it were up to me, Sark would already be gone after last year, but I do think if we won 9, there would be reason for some optimism for the future.

The problem is no matter how much Sark might learn on the job in the next year or two, he is going to be limited by his lines. That is on him. He might actually move beyond an average Coach (evidence would suggest not but who knows), but his lack of success in recruiting/developing the trenches is going to hamstring him.

We finally got some studs on the DL last year. But, we still have to develop them. OL has been a wasteland for years. So yeah, he has some decent skill players sprinkled around the roster, but unless we "magic" some serious improvement upfront, I still just cannot see a 10 win plus rosy future.

In conclusion, Fuck Woodward.

 

[Global]

Sark is stuck on Dan Cozzetto. Who knows why, but that has been the problem with our OL development from the beginning. Now recruits are also aware that Cozzetto is a jerk who can only scream at them, not turn them into solid players, never mind NFL prospects. The word is out and we will not get many OL studs until that changes. That ought to have occurred long ago. That is on Sark.

 

[PurpleJ]

Sark is stuck on Dan Cozzetto. Who knows why, but that has been the problem with our OL development from the beginning. Now recruits are also aware that Cozzetto is a jerk who can only scream at them, not turn them into solid players, never mind NFL prospects. The word is out and we will not get many OL studs until that changes. That ought to have occurred long ago. That is on Sark.

Fun fact: Cozz is one of the 3 surviving members of the self-proclaimed "best coaching staff in America", along with Nansen and Ivan.

 

[PurpleJ]

http://www.philsteele.com/Blogs/2013/JUN13/DBJune15.htmlhttp://www.philsteele.com/Blogs/2013/JUN13/DBJune08.html

Here are a couple more metrics for you to consider. #4 in overall experience and #30 in OL experience.

The problem here is that we are still talking about getting to 9 wins (as if that is some sort of magical number) in year fucking 5 with all that returning talent. If that doesn't tell you something about the coach, I don't know what else will.

I'm sure we will get to hear plenty about how our team is young this year. Of course they are. They are 18-22 year olds, just like at every other school. Fuck.

We'll talk about Sark in a different podcast.

But your point is correct. Its a young but experienced team who returns lots of players for this year but also next year. The lack of improvement over the past 2-3 years is a big warning sign on the coach and if it occurs again this year, no reasonable fan would not fire Sark. The point is not that we'd be happy with 9 wins its that 9 wins is the minimum needed for the perception that the program is improving and moving forward.

Bump.

 

[PurpleJ]

You initiated a rant based on nothing in the podcast.

Whatever.....but do jump in a fire though.

Next time I will only talk about the podcast and just ignore the words you write in your posts.

Silly me. I thought this was a message board or something.

If you have to blindly defend everything you say and downthumb everything I say in response, you won't last long.

That's because he is just here to beat his chest.

Don't you need to be right about something in order to do that?

You initiated a rant based on nothing in the podcast.

Whatever.....but do jump in a fire though.

Next time I will only talk about the podcast and just ignore the words you write in your posts.

Silly me. I thought this was a message board or something.

If you have to blindly defend everything you say and downthumb everything I say in

response, you won't last long.

That's because he is just here to beat his chest.

Don't you need to be right about something in order to do that?

Kim is never right and he beats his chest all the time.

Ironic.

 

[TierbsHsotBoobs]

Did you discuss NBA summer league at all?

Who the fuck are you?

 

[PurpleJ]

Chest would have given Sark a 6th year.

 

[doogsinparadise]

Sounds like a money grab

Bump.

 

[doogsinparadise]

Board was better when there was something to debate.

 

[PurpleJ]

Board was better when there was something to debate.

Year 3 is coming up.

 

[TierbsHsotBoobs]

Board was better when there was something to debate.

There has never been anything to debate.