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Listening to a podcast from Mandel and Feldman from the Athletic. They both put *us as under our Vegas O/U of 7.5 and surmised that if they had to bet which was more likely for Washington between 4-8 and 8-4, they picked 4-8 was more likely.
I am a bit concerned about our dooging being too optimistic, but 4-8? Just fire everyone into the sun.
Lets go Fisch, prove the national media wrong.
 
whlinder said:
Listening to a podcast from Mandel and Feldman from the Athletic. They both put *us as under our Vegas O/U of 7.5 and surmised that if they had to bet which was more likely for Washington between 4-8 and 8-4, they picked 4-8 was more likely.
I am a bit concerned about our dooging being too optimistic, but 4-8? Just fire everyone into the sun.
Lets go Fisch, prove the national media wrong.
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I keep going back to the fact that Sark could win 7 a year with an awful offensive line. Fish should be able to scheme around the line deficiencies against the middle/bottom of the Big 10. 7-8 seems right.
 
I've got no expectations for 2024. It's a write off year. I'd be shocked if we were better than 7-5.

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The staff is paid like and publicly talks about what great coaches and developers they are. and obviously, they know they're following a staff that just lost 3 games in two years.
I keep going back to the fact that it would be weird to succeed at Arizona (completely bottomed out, 0wen Arizona) but would somehow fail at Washington. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
 
haie said:
The staff is paid like and publicly talks about what great coaches and developers they are. and obviously, they know they're following a staff that just lost 3 games in two years.
I keep going back to the fact that it would be weird to succeed at Arizona (completely bottomed out, 0wen Arizona) but would somehow fail at Washington. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Right - but Arizona was a 3 year project.
The Fisch resume is good, but he's not inheriting the same level of roster that DeBoer had in 2022.
 
I'm more optimistic than the general consensus. I'd also take anything any cfb media dorks say with a grain of salt. When I was more in blogging I ended up being around and chatting with some and was shocked with how little they seemed to know about Pac-12 programs beyond the first layer or whatever the national supposed consensus was. Keep in-mind these are the same guys I think had USC picked to win the conference last year and Oregon to win more games than UW after how UW finished the season and with what they had coming back in comparison to those programs, and Oregon coming to Seattle.
I trust Fisch and company are good developers and judges of talent. Winning what they did at Arizona is no joke. I also know that they only won one game in his first year and five in his second so I do worry we're in for something like that, but just better - like 4 wins, then 8, then a breakthrough when Demond is a junior etc.
Sark's winning is hard to compare to me. The Pac-10/12 was two really good teams most those year then shit and he inherited closer to a situation like DeBoer inherited because the roster actually had some talent, a Top 10 NFL talent QB, and he and Ty benefitted from the state having more talent and most guys other than 5 stars generally going to UW.
 
YellowSnow said:
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Right - but Arizona was a 3 year project.
The Fisch resume is good, but he's not inheriting the same level of roster that DeBoer had in 2022.
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That's still downplaying how bad off Arizona was. It was even shittier/worse than Gary Andersen Oregon State. A bunch of people here were down about how Lake was playing 3rd stringers all second half against them, but our 2020 starters ass-blasted them in record fashion. Podcast of Champions guys were saying that their jaws dropped when they checked the yards at halftime.

Herm Edwards put up 70 on them and media people that do actually follow the Pac 12 closely were questioning whether Arizona was even a better job than WSU.
 
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WoolleyDoog said:
I'm more optimistic than the general consensus. I'd also take anything any cfb media dorks say with a grain of salt. When I was more in blogging I ended up being around and chatting with some and was shocked with how little they seemed to know about Pac-12 programs beyond the first layer or whatever the national supposed consensus was. Keep in-mind these are the same guys I think had USC picked to win the conference last year and Oregon to win more games than UW after how UW finished the season and with what they had coming back in comparison to those programs, and Oregon coming to Seattle.
I trust Fisch and company are good developers and judges of talent. Winning what they did at Arizona is no joke. I also know that they only won one game in his first year and five in his second so I do worry we're in for something like that, but just better - like 4 wins, then 8, then a breakthrough when Demond is a junior etc.
Sark's winning is hard to compare to me. The Pac-10/12 was two really good teams most those year then shit and he inherited closer to a situation like DeBoer inherited because the roster actually had some talent, a Top 10 NFL talent QB, and he and Ty benefitted from the state having more talent and most guys other than 5 stars generally going to UW.
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cfb media dorks dont know fuck about shit, theyve spent their time wiping saban's jizz off their chins.
 
YellowSnow said:
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/1969858#Comment_1969858
Lambo was Don James compared to Jimmy Lake, Boss.
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I don't really agree with that.
If he just says the word 'yes' to Mark Helfrich (who really wanted the OC job and was probably pretty motivated to stick it to the quooks) then he's still coaching here. I don't know if he's a true contender in the conference or any of that, but he's definitely still at Washington.
Look at all of his losses including Michigan. Yes he lost to Montana and deserved to be fired just for that.
 
haie said:
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/1969869#Comment_1969869
I don't really agree with that.
If he just says the word 'yes' to Mark Helfrich (who really wanted the OC job and was probably pretty motivated to stick it to the quooks) then he's still coaching here. I don't know if he's a true contender in the conference or any of that, but he's definitely still at Washington.
Look at all of his losses including Michigan. Yes he lost to Montana and deserved to be fired just for that.
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haie said:
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/1969869#Comment_1969869
I don't really agree with that.
If he just says the word 'yes' to Mark Helfrich (who really wanted the OC job and was probably pretty motivated to stick it to the quooks) then he's still coaching here. I don't know if he's a true contender in the conference or any of that, but he's definitely still at Washington.
Look at all of his losses including Michigan. Yes he lost to Montana and deserved to be fired just for that.
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Losing to Montana is the worst performance by a Husky head coach in my life time.
Jimmy Lake would have been Tyrone level bad had he stayed here.
 
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