ESPN plagarisms Coker's Jesse Callier Initiative

[DawgFader]

It makes no sense to "re rank" recruiting classes. They are ranked at the time because they generally reflect how badly the players were wanted during that recruiting cycle.

Sure, some kids are underrated, etc, but in general star averages are good approximations of how well you did vs your competitors.

Everything else is coaching.

I'm surprised to see DDY make such a silly argument. I guess he's indeed drinking again.

It makes no sense to NOT rerank classes based on performance, that's how you know if your evaluation processes are working or not.

Pete's are.

The problem with relying on stars because they reflect interest is that there are differences in how coaches evaluate. Pete watched the same film as USC on pili, you don't think it makes sense to check in in a few years to see who was right?

Re-Ranking recruiting classes down the line is a reflection of the coaches ability to coach. I love it for that, that's what the whole Jesse Callier thing is all about.

Brandon Pili sucks right now, if he gets good at USC it tells me they coached him up really well.

It's not just the coaches ability to coach. It's also their ability, as recruiters, to identify talent and identify players who will work thrive in their system.

Yup, and I trust them so much at their ability to evaluate talent that that is one of the reasons I hate to see us miss guys that they offered before the guys we offered late.

I love all the guys we got late, they are all really talented kids and with the way we coach they should develop great. But I can still wish we could've seen them coach up the elite guys that we missed on, that's all.

You and I are in agreement on this point. However, no school is going to get every top kid. I do think part of "recruiting" is being able to find guys that might be a little under the radar, but you recognize their potential in your system

Sidney Jones is a great example. We didn't have to fight off USC or Bama for him. We were his best offer. A couple years of coaching was not the difference between him being a bust and a first round NFL prospect. He had that potential from the get-go. Lake gets "recruiting kudos" for recognizing that.

Seems like the elite programs year in and year out (Top 10) get most every kid they want or a close clone.

Then they tell the 3 stars to fuck off about a week before the LOI's are faxed.

 

[huskyhooligan]

Pete says fuck stars give me a kid with want to and heart these are our guys going forward whether we like it or not

I think I heard him say that a lot kids just want to be recruited and tolerate football, and he looks for kids that love football. #ibeatforpete