Dylan Morris, 4* 2019 QB, Graham (Graham-Kapowsin), WA (COMMITTED)

@Babushka officially moves out of the shit tier recruiters with this one. That's three 4 star QB's in two classes. Yeah two of them are in state and one of them came because of Lubick, but scorebored is all that matters. Smiff's scorebored looks pretty good of late. Especially given the RISE concerns.

Not saying he's Lubick or Lake, don't twist. But he's at least in the Bonerpoppa/PaoPao tier as opposed to the Malloe/Strausser tier where he was before.

Incremental progress and chit.
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Disagree: Sirmon was Pete, Yankoff was Lubick and this was Pete.

The only one that wasn't a chip in was Yankoff and that was all Lubick/Pete.

If we pull Tanner McKee and he cites Smith, then we can talk.
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Disagree. Smith's area of the team put up big numbers and he produced the 6th place vote-getter for the Heisman.

Babushka helps, though admittedly he may need Pete of Lubick to seal the deal. Malloe just needs to go away.
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Our offense was Jack Pardee bullshit. We plowed bad teams and scored 7-10 points against good teams.

I've said it a million times, if you give up 45 points in critical games, but only 10 against bad offenses you are not a good defense.

If you score 50+ against shit teams and 7 against a good one, you are not a good offense.

We have a better team than everyone. That's why we scored. Our offense is dreck against similar competition.
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I never really thought of it like that, but it's a brilliant point.

The one thing I did love about last year was it was the first year in forever we pushed guys around. We couldn't have pushed a team like Utah or Stanford around in previous years. I would call it a pretty good, much improved offense.
 
@Babushka officially moves out of the shit tier recruiters with this one. That's three 4 star QB's in two classes. Yeah two of them are in state and one of them came because of Lubick, but scorebored is all that matters. Smiff's scorebored looks pretty good of late. Especially given the RISE concerns.

Not saying he's Lubick or Lake, don't twist. But he's at least in the Bonerpoppa/PaoPao tier as opposed to the Malloe/Strausser tier where he was before.

Incremental progress and chit.
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Disagree: Sirmon was Pete, Yankoff was Lubick and this was Pete.

The only one that wasn't a chip in was Yankoff and that was all Lubick/Pete.

If we pull Tanner McKee and he cites Smith, then we can talk.
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Disagree. Smith's area of the team put up big numbers and he produced the 6th place vote-getter for the Heisman.

Babushka helps, though admittedly he may need Pete of Lubick to seal the deal. Malloe just needs to go away.
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Our offense was Jack Pardee bullshit. We plowed bad teams and scored 7-10 points against good teams.

I've said it a million times, if you give up 45 points in critical games, but only 10 against bad offenses you are not a good defense.

If you score 50+ against shit teams and 7 against a good one, you are not a good offense.

We have a better team than everyone. That's why we scored. Our offense is dreck against similar competition.
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I never really thought of it like that, but it's a brilliant point.

The one thing I did love about last year was it was the first year in forever we pushed guys around. We couldn't have pushed a team like Utah or Stanford around in previous years. I would call it a pretty good, much improved offense.
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Yes. It wasn't "shit" but it also wasn't spectacular. If Jake doesn't throw that stupid pic 6 in the first half the game would've still been in reach.

Our OLs did pretty well in nearly all games. When is the last time we could say that?
 
@Babushka officially moves out of the shit tier recruiters with this one. That's three 4 star QB's in two classes. Yeah two of them are in state and one of them came because of Lubick, but scorebored is all that matters. Smiff's scorebored looks pretty good of late. Especially given the RISE concerns.

Not saying he's Lubick or Lake, don't twist. But he's at least in the Bonerpoppa/PaoPao tier as opposed to the Malloe/Strausser tier where he was before.

Incremental progress and chit.
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Disagree: Sirmon was Pete, Yankoff was Lubick and this was Pete.

The only one that wasn't a chip in was Yankoff and that was all Lubick/Pete.

If we pull Tanner McKee and he cites Smith, then we can talk.
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Disagree. Smith's area of the team put up big numbers and he produced the 6th place vote-getter for the Heisman.

Babushka helps, though admittedly he may need Pete of Lubick to seal the deal. Malloe just needs to go away.
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Our offense was Jack Pardee bullshit. We plowed bad teams and scored 7-10 points against good teams.

I've said it a million times, if you give up 45 points in critical games, but only 10 against bad offenses you are not a good defense.

If you score 50+ against shit teams and 7 against a good one, you are not a good offense.

We have a better team than everyone. That's why we scored. Our offense is dreck against similar competition.
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I never really thought of it like that, but it's a brilliant point.

The one thing I did love about last year was it was the first year in forever we pushed guys around. We couldn't have pushed a team like Utah or Stanford around in previous years. I would call it a pretty good, much improved offense.
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Yes. It wasn't "shit" but it also wasn't spectacular. If Jake doesn't throw that stupid pic 6 in the first half the game would've still been in reach.

Our OLs did pretty well in nearly all games. When is the last time we could say that?
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The USC game was a horribly called game. No reason to abandon the run like that. Coleman getting two carries was a tragedy. Maybe we still would have lost, but it was puzzling.

I don't think the outcome would have been any different against Alabama, but I wish we ran it more in that one too. The pick 6 fucked us and we stopped running the ball in the 2nd half. In hindsight, I wish we wouldn't have panicked and continued to run the ball. Make it a longer game. We had chances for turnovers on D. Psalm botched picking up a loose ball.

Forcing a defense to bring it constantly can lull them to sleep, miss a gap, etc.
 
@Babushka officially moves out of the shit tier recruiters with this one. That's three 4 star QB's in two classes. Yeah two of them are in state and one of them came because of Lubick, but scorebored is all that matters. Smiff's scorebored looks pretty good of late. Especially given the RISE concerns.

Not saying he's Lubick or Lake, don't twist. But he's at least in the Bonerpoppa/PaoPao tier as opposed to the Malloe/Strausser tier where he was before.

Incremental progress and chit.
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Half of the job is to coach and other to recruit. He still sux as an OC
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Babushka is far from perfect as an OC ... but if you look at our results on offense last year it's hard to be very critical of the job Babushka did on the whole
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I guess having superior athletes did not help last year. Everytime UW played a team of same talent level it had trouble.
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Alabama had superior talent ... in both games we lost our struggles started on the OL and in particular on the C and RG positions

Also in both games you can really argue that Browning's shoulder issues also were limiting

The game plan against Alabama actually wasn't that bad ... we did a lot of good things there (more than what many would admit)
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He's right, you know. The offense generated two touchdowns after all.

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Browning made the wrong read ... but where did the pressure come from on that play?
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Browning's head. They played Alabama. Their All-American 1st rounder destroyed our freshman OL. A Heisman contender QB'ing a playoff team throws the ball away. 3rd down and 10.
 
@Babushka officially moves out of the shit tier recruiters with this one. That's three 4 star QB's in two classes. Yeah two of them are in state and one of them came because of Lubick, but scorebored is all that matters. Smiff's scorebored looks pretty good of late. Especially given the RISE concerns.

Not saying he's Lubick or Lake, don't twist. But he's at least in the Bonerpoppa/PaoPao tier as opposed to the Malloe/Strausser tier where he was before.

Incremental progress and chit.
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Half of the job is to coach and other to recruit. He still sux as an OC
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Babushka is far from perfect as an OC ... but if you look at our results on offense last year it's hard to be very critical of the job Babushka did on the whole
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Tedford.
 
@Babushka officially moves out of the shit tier recruiters with this one. That's three 4 star QB's in two classes. Yeah two of them are in state and one of them came because of Lubick, but scorebored is all that matters. Smiff's scorebored looks pretty good of late. Especially given the RISE concerns.

Not saying he's Lubick or Lake, don't twist. But he's at least in the Bonerpoppa/PaoPao tier as opposed to the Malloe/Strausser tier where he was before.

Incremental progress and chit.
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Half of the job is to coach and other to recruit. He still sux as an OC
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Babushka is far from perfect as an OC ... but if you look at our results on offense last year it's hard to be very critical of the job Babushka did on the whole
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Tedford.
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This. As soon as Tedford left, there was a noticeable drop in quality of playcalling.
 
...As soon as Tedford left, there was a noticeable droprise in quality of playcallingopponents.
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CRISPR.
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Didn't realize USC and Bama called all those pass plays for us. Thanks for clarifying.

I think it's more accurate to say that because we played tougher opponents, we couldn't just chuck it up and score TDs. Babushka got exposed.
 
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@Babushka officially moves out of the shit tier recruiters with this one. That's three 4 star QB's in two classes. Yeah two of them are in state and one of them came because of Lubick, but scorebored is all that matters. Smiff's scorebored looks pretty good of late. Especially given the RISE concerns.

Not saying he's Lubick or Lake, don't twist. But he's at least in the Bonerpoppa/PaoPao tier as opposed to the Malloe/Strausser tier where he was before.

Incremental progress and chit.
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Half of the job is to coach and other to recruit. He still sux as an OC
Click to expand...

Babushka is far from perfect as an OC ... but if you look at our results on offense last year it's hard to be very critical of the job Babushka did on the whole
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I guess having superior athletes did not help last year. Everytime UW played a team of same talent level it had trouble.
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Same talent level? TF are you smoking? Are you reading Dennis' hyperbole and taking that shit literally?

UW's offense did not have similar talent to USC and Alabama's defenses. Holy fuck we weren't in the same talent universe with Alabama's defense. Bama's defense had three first round picks. They had 6 players picked in the top 3 rounds and another in the 4th. UW's offense had 1 player picked. That's it. And yes it was younger than Bama's defense, but UW's 11 starters in that game will not touch any of Bama's 2017 draft marks over all the drafts they're eligible for. And the fact UW was a lot younger doesn't help the case.

Only the doogliest fucking doog thinks UW was an even talent matchup with Alafuckingbama. That was a talent mismatch, especially UW's offense against Bama's defense. That's as dumb as coogs claiming their talent is equal to ours.

Never in my lifetime have we had an offense with equal talent to USC's defense. We certainly didn't this year - their defense had three times as many people drafted as our offense did. And they bring at least as many high draftees back as our offense does, probably more.

The truth is UW's offense did play a couple of defenses they had similar talent with this year. Oregon and Stanford. And they annihilated them.

You could probably throw Colorado in there too, their defense was very talented. The passing game struggled against them but the running game kicked ass and we ran it 30 more times than we threw. Hard to be too critical there.

I'm mad we didn't play better against SC and Bama too. But think about what you're saying. Only on an extreme doog message bored would anyone even think about claiming UW's offense had similar talent to Bama's defense.
 
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@Babushka officially moves out of the shit tier recruiters with this one. That's three 4 star QB's in two classes. Yeah two of them are in state and one of them came because of Lubick, but scorebored is all that matters. Smiff's scorebored looks pretty good of late. Especially given the RISE concerns.

Not saying he's Lubick or Lake, don't twist. But he's at least in the Bonerpoppa/PaoPao tier as opposed to the Malloe/Strausser tier where he was before.

Incremental progress and chit.
Click to expand...

Disagree: Sirmon was Pete, Yankoff was Lubick and this was Pete.

The only one that wasn't a chip in was Yankoff and that was all Lubick/Pete.

If we pull Tanner McKee and he cites Smith, then we can talk.
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Disagree. Smith's area of the team put up big numbers and he produced the 6th place vote-getter for the Heisman.

Babushka helps, though admittedly he may need Pete of Lubick to seal the deal. Malloe just needs to go away.
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Our offense was Jack Pardee bullshit. We plowed bad teams and scored 7-10 points against good teams.

I've said it a million times, if you give up 45 points in critical games, but only 10 against bad offenses you are not a good defense.

If you score 50+ against shit teams and 7 against a good one, you are not a good offense.

We have a better team than everyone. That's why we scored. Our offense is dreck against similar competition.
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@Babushka officially moves out of the shit tier recruiters with this one. That's three 4 star QB's in two classes. Yeah two of them are in state and one of them came because of Lubick, but scorebored is all that matters. Smiff's scorebored looks pretty good of late. Especially given the RISE concerns.

Not saying he's Lubick or Lake, don't twist. But he's at least in the Bonerpoppa/PaoPao tier as opposed to the Malloe/Strausser tier where he was before.

Incremental progress and chit.
Click to expand...

Disagree: Sirmon was Pete, Yankoff was Lubick and this was Pete.

The only one that wasn't a chip in was Yankoff and that was all Lubick/Pete.

If we pull Tanner McKee and he cites Smith, then we can talk.
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Disagree. Smith's area of the team put up big numbers and he produced the 6th place vote-getter for the Heisman.

Babushka helps, though admittedly he may need Pete of Lubick to seal the deal. Malloe just needs to go away.
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Our offense was Jack Pardee bullshit. We plowed bad teams and scored 7-10 points against good teams.

I've said it a million times, if you give up 45 points in critical games, but only 10 against bad offenses you are not a good defense.

If you score 50+ against shit teams and 7 against a good one, you are not a good offense.

We have a better team than everyone. That's why we scored. Our offense is dreck against similar competition.
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Holy shit.

Stop.

If we had lost to Stanford they'd have been "similar competition". We waxed them so nobody thinks of them that way.

If we'd have rolled USC they wouldn't be considered similar competition. But they kicked our ass so you place them there.

Stanford was a critical game. Colorado was a critical game. Fuck, WSU was a critical game (yes we had a talent advantage in it). The offense showed up to varying ass kicking degrees in each of them.

They were at a decent talent disadvantage to USC's defense and underachieved. They were at a massive talent disadvantage to Bama's defense and performed about as expected. They didn't have issues with not showing up in critical games. They had issues with not scoring points when they played defenses that had more talent than they did.

That's why we want 5-7 elite guys a year, isn't it? Because SC and Bama are getting 10-12 of them every year, and we need more of them in order to beat those teams consistently.
 
To me, it's difficult to really judge the USC and Alabama games because the passing game was so limited by Browning's shoulder ... we got away with it against Colorado because we were able to just run the ball down their throats.

The most relevant game we can look back to in 2016 was Stanford and even then there's a bit of an issue because Stanford was missing their starting CBs in the game.

But there were throws made in that game with respect to outs, etc. that I'm not sure it would have mattered and showed what our offense was capable of with Browning at full strength with his arm.

By all of the metrics that I materially track each team against each other in the conference (9 each on offense/defense), UW comparatively to the conference ranked in the top 2 (conference games only) offensively in 7 of the 9 categories (those other categories were 4th in yards per rush and 6th in completion %) and in the top 2 in 6 of 9 defensive categories (no lower than 4th in any single category).

The consensus is that Browning's shoulder injury took place at some point in the Oregon State game. In the 6 games prior to Oregon St, Browning was 112 for 154 for a 72.7% completion percentage (it wasn't built up just in the non-conference schedule as he was 72.9% in the 1st 3 conference games). In his first 6 games, his lowest completion % for any single game was 63.6% against Portland State. In the Oregon State game, Browning was 15 for 31 for a completion % of 48.4%. After the Oregon State game, for the remaining 5 conference games + P12 title game + National Semifinal Browning's completion % dropped to 57% and really only had strong games against Cal and the Cougs.

Finally, the area where you can really tell that Browning's shoulder was limiting on offense was that his lack of arm strength didn't allow him to push the ball effectively down the field. This resulted in significant drops in his yards per attempt and yards per completion in the 2nd half of the season compared to the 1st half (Cal and Cougs as the outliers).
 
To me, it's difficult to really judge the USC and Alabama games because the passing game was so limited by Browning's shoulder ...
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