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The fact is that the dossier was not taken seriously and was not what started the Russia scandal. It started with alcohol. Papadopoulos blabbed to an Australian diplomat that Trump was aware of the hack. Indeed he was, and never mentioned it to the FBI.
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Willful ignorance or stupidity? Everything you just said here is false and opposite of the facts and the truth. So which is it, are you a liar or a moron?

Btw, do we even have any evidence that the DNC was ever hacked by the Russians? We know the DNC never turned over their servers and the only verifcation that we have that the "Russians" were behind the hack is the very same corrupt FBI that knew the Dossier was bogus but used it anyway to get a FISA warrant.
 
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The fact is that the dossier was not taken seriously and was not what started the Russia scandal. It started with alcohol. Papadopoulos blabbed to an Australian diplomat that Trump was aware of the hack. Indeed he was, and never mentioned it to the FBI.
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You are a very naive and stupid person.

You deserve the social thrashings you frequently receive.
 
Read for yourself what started the investigation.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/...-investigation-began-george-papadopoulos.html

The result was the Mueller report did indeed show that Trump had scores of contacts with Russian operatives, he "expected to benefit from stolen information." The report showed collusion, which is not a legal term, but not "criminal conspiracy," and did show lots of obstruction of justice which could still be prosecuted. And fuck off
 
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Read for yourself what started the investigation.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/...-investigation-began-george-papadopoulos.html

The result was the Mueller report did indeed show that Trump had scores of contacts with Russian operatives, he "expected to benefit from stolen information." The report showed collusion, which is not a legal term, but not "criminal conspiracy," and did show lots of obstruction of justice.
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That was debunked years ago Central grad

Note that you have no interest in the actual facts or what Durham says

Academically prowess

 
Read for yourself what started the investigation.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/...-investigation-began-george-papadopoulos.html

The result was the Mueller report did indeed show that Trump had scores of contacts with Russian operatives, he "expected to benefit from stolen information." The report showed collusion, which is not a legal term, but not "criminal conspiracy," and did show lots of obstruction of justice.
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Yeah, the NYTimes reporting from 2017 is rock solid on this topic. Papdopoulos never even discussed emails with Downer. Does the 2017 story tell how Papdopouls first heard about the Russians having dirt on Hillary and who told him that and how it was that he was even in London in the first place?
 
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I said that *started* it, which is true, not whether or not some details were later shown different.

Anyway, I don't see what you are worried about. The Dems are not going to break the filibuster and you and your loonies can reassume the federal government again.
 
Prior to early July, when the FBI began receiving Steele-dossier reports (which the State Department would also soon receive), the intelligence community — particularly the CIA, under the direction of its hyperpolitical director, John Brennan — had been theorizing that the Trump campaign was in a corrupt relationship with Russia. Thanks to the Steele dossier, even before Downer reported his conversation with Papadopoulos to the State Department, the Obama administration had already been operating on the theory that Russia was planning to assist the Trump campaign through the anonymous release of information that would be damaging to Clinton. They had already conveniently fit the hacked DNC emails into this theory.[/i][/b]

Downer’s report enabled the Obama administration to cover an investigative theory it was already pursuing[/b] with a report from a friendly foreign government, as if that report had triggered the Trump-Russia investigation. In order to pull that off, however, it was necessary to distort what Papadopoulos had told Downer.

To repeat, Papadopoulos never told Downer anything about emails. Moreover, the Mueller report provides no basis for Papadopoulos to have known that Russia was planning the anonymous release of information damaging to Clinton in order to help Trump; nor does the Mueller report allege that Papadopoulos actually told Downer such a thing.[/b]

The State Department’s report to the FBI claiming that Papadopoulos had “suggested” these things to Downer was manufactured to portray a false connection between (a) what Papadopoulos told Downer and (b) the hacking and publication of the DNC emails. That false connection then became the rationale for formally opening the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation — paper cover for an investigation of the Trump campaign that was already under way.[/i][/b]
 
I said that *started* it, which is true, not whether or not some details were later shown different.

Anyway, I don't see what you are worried about. The Dems are not going to break the filibuster and you *guys* and your loonies can reassume the federal government again.
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I like how the guy stuck in 2017 spouting nonsense that isn't true with no interest in the truth is calling us guys loonies

 
Sorry, every reference on the internet that isn't far right crackpot says the George Papadopoulos meeting with Downer was the spark that start all this and not the silly dossier. That's all...
 
Sorry, every reference on the internet that isn't far right crackpot says the George Papadopoulos meeting with Downer was the spark that start all this and not the silly dossier. That's all...
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The Dossier, which Hillary paid for, just gave them the "evidence" they needed to open up a formal investigation. The Obama Admin already believed that Russia was going to help Trump in the 2016 election well befoe Papadopoulos ever met with Downer. And your claim about Trump being aware of the "hack" is pure bullshit. He never said that to Downer.
 
Sorry, every reference on the internet that isn't far right crackpot says the George Papadopoulos meeting with Downer was the spark that start all this and not the silly dossier. That's all...
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When did they open up a formal investigation? When did they receive the dossier?
 
I said that *started* it, which is true, not whether or not some details were later shown different.

Anyway, I don't see what you are worried about. The Dems are not going to break the filibuster and you and your loonies can reassume the federal government again.
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Actually it's not true.

even before Downer reported his conversation with Papadopoulos to the State Department, the Obama administration had already been operating on the theory that Russia was planning to assist the Trump campaign through the anonymous release of information that would be damaging to Clinton.[/i][/b]
 
Sorry, every reference on the internet that isn't far right crackpot says the George Papadopoulos meeting with Downer was the spark that start all this and not the silly dossier. That's all...
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Sorry you don't have any interest in the facts only your false narrative

The fake dossier commissioned by Clinton was the key

You can go back on this site and find Sven and the rest jacking off over the golden showers. That hooked the public and gave cover to the "we just need the truth" lie

We have a lot more truth now but you cling to the lie

Go figure
 
Sorry, every reference on the internet that isn't far right crackpot says the George Papadopoulos meeting with Downer was the spark that start all this and not the silly dossier. That's all...
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Sorry you don't have any interest in the facts only your false narrative

The fake dossier commissioned by Clinton was the key

You can go back on this site and find Sven and the rest jacking off over the golden showers. That hooked the public and gave cover to the "we just need the truth" lie

We have a lot more truth now but you cling to the lie

Go figure
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We also know that when they first applied for the FISA warrant they didn't include anything from the Dossier and were denied. The applied again using the Dossier as a source and it was granted. Claiming the Dossier wasn't taken seriously and no big deal is blatant misinformation.

Btw, Nunes, who during this entire thing has been pretty damn accurate and honest says that he has reason to believe that the investigation into Trump by the Obama Admin started in late 2015.
 
Sorry, every reference on the internet[/b] that isn't far right crackpot says the George Papadopoulos meeting with Downer was the spark that start all this and not the silly dossier. That's all...
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You really know how to buttress an argument, kid.

You could just use, "some people say," and stop embarrassing yourself.
 
Sorry, every reference on the internet that isn't far right crackpot says the George Papadopoulos meeting with Downer was the spark that start all this and not the silly dossier. That's all...
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Yep, far right crackpots like Glen Greenwald and Matt Taibbi. You really don't know much about this besides what you read on NYT? The paper of record that soiled its reputation with the 1619 projekt? Sure.
 
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Sorry, every reference on the internet that isn't far right crackpot says the George Papadopoulos meeting with Downer was the spark that start all this and not the silly dossier. That's all...
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Assuming what you say is true - which it isn't, any meeting had nothing to do with Trump and Russian collusion. The Steele dossier was the source for the FISA warrants and the special prosecutor. When you say "That's all ..." you are admitting that there is no there there. Just like hyper partisan Mueller concluded. You suck at this.
 
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