Ducks Sign 6 foot, 4,230 lb wide receiver for next season

[creepycoug]

I hate to tell you this, but while Herbert is a physical talent, he's hardly John Elway the way you describe him. The truth is he played like shit in several games last year, and he wasn't great against Washington either.

 

[greenblood]

4th in the North.

Prison fucked by WSU Utah And Arizona.

haieballz! funny you should show up here.

He needed to use both accounts this time. Sad.

 

[Ballz]

I hate to tell you this, but while Herbert is a physical talent, he's hardly John Elway the way you describe him. The truth is he played like shit in several games last year, and he wasn't great against Washington either.

He would be much better if he was at UW right now.

 

[1to392831weretaken]

Really, has Herbert ever looked that great? He's big, reasonably fast and athletic, and has a good arm, but how has he actually played[/i]? He flashed talent very early, and I think he's been riding that hype ever since, never really putting it together in ANY season, let alone last one.

It's possible he's been held back by constant coaching shuffles, only one consistent receiver his entire career, and an offensive line that's shuffled as much as the coaching staff. It'll be interesting to see what the NFL thinks about him if 2019 looks similar to 2017 and 2018.

 

[HillsboroDuck]

Really, has Herbert ever looked that great? He's big, reasonably fast and athletic, and has a good arm, but how has he actually played[/i]? He flashed talent very early, and I think he's been riding that hype ever since, never really putting it together in ANY season, let alone last one.

It's possible he's been held back by constant coaching shuffles, only one consistent receiver his entire career, and an offensive line that's shuffled as much as the coaching staff. It'll be interesting to see what the NFL thinks about him if 2019 looks similar to 2017 and 2018.

Once he gets his reads down 2019 will get ugly quick.

 

[RaceBannon]

Hubert can make throws like the one at the end of the first half against our DAWGS for a TD that makes scouts drool. Results are less important than potential

I do think he left a ton of money on the table by not being in this draft. If he struggles this year to be consistent it will hurt him

 

[BleachedAnusDawg]

Gotta love big receivers who are too slow to really play receiver at a high level and too soft to play TE. #ScoDucks

There have been a lot of successful big receivers who are north of 4.4. The knock on him was his inconsistency in 2018. People loved him before that. They were smart to go get him. Little downside.

Except he's a one year rental who'll take game reps away from your younger receivers and slow down their growth and development. Helps Oregon for 2019, hurts them for 2020, especially if he becomes Herbert's favorite target.

You play for now. Next season is next seaon. If the other receivers warrant throws, then they'll get them. That's the nice thing about the position: it's all production. QBs are stingy people by nature. They want to complete passes and will throw to anyone who catches them.

Dillon is gone, and he was their passing game last season.

I also like big receivers if they play big. I'll take a guy who will catch a ball in traffic to move the chains all day long.

Go ahead and suck even worse in 2020. I don't care. Oregon always wants to put bandaids on holes on the roster instead of developing their own talent internally and that's why they suck and aren't going anywhere.

Let me get this straight. You play a season with one receiver who is worth a shit, and he leaves. A guy who has some upside wants to transfer from Penn State, but you tell him to fuck off because you need those reps this season for the younger guys to develop.

Got it.

Brilliant analysis. You'll be running the Alabama program in no time.

If you want to build a real program, yes, that's what you do. Petersen and Chip Kelly and David Shaw are not out searching for JUCO kids or graduate transfers every off season. You build a great program internally with your own recruits. Not with bandaids that fill a hole for one year but leave another gaping hole when they leave. And don't act like this dude was banging down Oregon's door. They went after him and offered him the easiest path to playing time for his final season with a talented QB to throw him the ball.

Yeah, Peterson never signed a transfer. Especially at QB, because it might take away from your young QB’s reps.

One transfer to supplement an already competitive and talented position group is fine. Recruiting a bunch or JUCO transfers and 4-year transfers to fill gaping holes on your roster is different. Building a program is a process and it has to be built on a strong foundation of internal development. A bunch of transfers are either a waste of scholarships that could have gone to high school recruits or if they do pan out they stunt the development of others and leave a hole they previously filled when they leave. Oregon is not Bama. They're UW under Sark. A bunch of attrition due to poor recruiting evaluations and recruiting guys from across the country that are gonna leave if they're not playing early. Coaches trying to fill holes on a sinking boat with bubble gum. It's fun to watch. I got my popcorn ready.

If you need to bring in a transfer, you might not have a competitive and talented position group. Your best eligible QB last year threw one td pass all season (to the wrong team)

QB was not a weakness or a hole on the roster before Eason transferred. It's a false equivalency. Stop trying to make it work.

Disagree. Not one QB on the roster has proven anything, and it sounds to me like, outside of hoping Eason's pedigree bears out, the other QB's are all shit.

They don't have to. They have the physical talent everybody is looking for. Even little Haener has more arm talent than Browning. QB depth and talent wasn't a weakness for us before Eason transferred in. Keep trying to make it work though.

QB not a weakness, but the only QB on the roster with playing time at UW puked all over the field at Cal. Yeah, that's not a weakness...UW could be a 7 win or 11+ win team this season, and it all hinges on the great unknown at QB.

 

[1to392831weretaken]

Hubert can make throws like the one at the end of the first half against our DAWGS for a TD that makes scouts drool. Results are less important than potential

I do think he left a ton of money on the table by not being in this draft. If he struggles this year to be consistent it will hurt him

It's really what drives me crazy about all of the preseason Oregon hype. There are Twitter pundits who are actually predicting an undefeated regular season and a playoff berth? Why!? Smart people were able to look at how 2015 finished for UW and predict big things in 2016. That made sense: The conference's best defense, an offense on which the three most important positions were true freshmen who all improved bigly toward the end of the season, and closing out the season with three straight wins including a spanking of a top-25 team. Largest loss of the season was 17 points in a game with the backup QB. Even with three true freshmen at the most important positions on offense, they were a team that was dangerous in every single game they played.

Oregon? They had a better record than that 2015 Huskies team, but that's with a junior, supposedly #1 overall draft pick, at QB and against the weakest PAC-x conference I've seen in my lifetim. They got blown out 15-44 by freaking Arizona! They lost to the freaking Cuog by two touchdowns, barely beat ASU by 2 at home near the end of the season, and their bowl game was the only game of the entire CFB season that was a bigger turd than the Huskies' P12CG. In the meantime, they lost a receiver who was something like 70% of their passing offense last season, lost easily half of their front-seven talent in Hollins and Jelks, and apparently STILL nobody in the country has actually watched Herbert play.

And it's that last point that gets me. I could give three shits about any team, let alone Oregon, getting preseason hype if the hype if it's justified. In this case, though, the hype seems to be derived 50% from an incoming freshman class (stuuuuuuupid) and 50% from the return of a QB who's been at best wildly inconsistent his entire career butusedtobea#1projectionsohegood. Makes no sense.

 

[HillsboroDuck]

Gotta love big receivers who are too slow to really play receiver at a high level and too soft to play TE. #ScoDucks

There have been a lot of successful big receivers who are north of 4.4. The knock on him was his inconsistency in 2018. People loved him before that. They were smart to go get him. Little downside.

Except he's a one year rental who'll take game reps away from your younger receivers and slow down their growth and development. Helps Oregon for 2019, hurts them for 2020, especially if he becomes Herbert's favorite target.

You play for now. Next season is next seaon. If the other receivers warrant throws, then they'll get them. That's the nice thing about the position: it's all production. QBs are stingy people by nature. They want to complete passes and will throw to anyone who catches them.

Dillon is gone, and he was their passing game last season.

I also like big receivers if they play big. I'll take a guy who will catch a ball in traffic to move the chains all day long.

Go ahead and suck even worse in 2020. I don't care. Oregon always wants to put bandaids on holes on the roster instead of developing their own talent internally and that's why they suck and aren't going anywhere.

Let me get this straight. You play a season with one receiver who is worth a shit, and he leaves. A guy who has some upside wants to transfer from Penn State, but you tell him to fuck off because you need those reps this season for the younger guys to develop.

Got it.

Brilliant analysis. You'll be running the Alabama program in no time.

If you want to build a real program, yes, that's what you do. Petersen and Chip Kelly and David Shaw are not out searching for JUCO kids or graduate transfers every off season. You build a great program internally with your own recruits. Not with bandaids that fill a hole for one year but leave another gaping hole when they leave. And don't act like this dude was banging down Oregon's door. They went after him and offered him the easiest path to playing time for his final season with a talented QB to throw him the ball.

Yeah, Peterson never signed a transfer. Especially at QB, because it might take away from your young QB’s reps.

One transfer to supplement an already competitive and talented position group is fine. Recruiting a bunch or JUCO transfers and 4-year transfers to fill gaping holes on your roster is different. Building a program is a process and it has to be built on a strong foundation of internal development. A bunch of transfers are either a waste of scholarships that could have gone to high school recruits or if they do pan out they stunt the development of others and leave a hole they previously filled when they leave. Oregon is not Bama. They're UW under Sark. A bunch of attrition due to poor recruiting evaluations and recruiting guys from across the country that are gonna leave if they're not playing early. Coaches trying to fill holes on a sinking boat with bubble gum. It's fun to watch. I got my popcorn ready.

If you need to bring in a transfer, you might not have a competitive and talented position group. Your best eligible QB last year threw one td pass all season (to the wrong team)

QB was not a weakness or a hole on the roster before Eason transferred. It's a false equivalency. Stop trying to make it work.

Disagree. Not one QB on the roster has proven anything, and it sounds to me like, outside of hoping Eason's pedigree bears out, the other QB's are all shit.

They don't have to. They have the physical talent everybody is looking for. Even little Haener has more arm talent than Browning. QB depth and talent wasn't a weakness for us before Eason transferred in. Keep trying to make it work though.

QB not a weakness, but the only QB on the roster with playing time at UW puked all over the field at Cal. Yeah, that's not a weakness...UW could be a 7 win or 11+ win team this season, and it all hinges on the great unknown at QB.

There's no way this team only wins 7 games.

We're not getting worse QB play than we had last year.

 

[greenblood]

Gotta love big receivers who are too slow to really play receiver at a high level and too soft to play TE. #ScoDucks

There have been a lot of successful big receivers who are north of 4.4. The knock on him was his inconsistency in 2018. People loved him before that. They were smart to go get him. Little downside.

Except he's a one year rental who'll take game reps away from your younger receivers and slow down their growth and development. Helps Oregon for 2019, hurts them for 2020, especially if he becomes Herbert's favorite target.

You play for now. Next season is next seaon. If the other receivers warrant throws, then they'll get them. That's the nice thing about the position: it's all production. QBs are stingy people by nature. They want to complete passes and will throw to anyone who catches them.

Dillon is gone, and he was their passing game last season.

I also like big receivers if they play big. I'll take a guy who will catch a ball in traffic to move the chains all day long.

Go ahead and suck even worse in 2020. I don't care. Oregon always wants to put bandaids on holes on the roster instead of developing their own talent internally and that's why they suck and aren't going anywhere.

Let me get this straight. You play a season with one receiver who is worth a shit, and he leaves. A guy who has some upside wants to transfer from Penn State, but you tell him to fuck off because you need those reps this season for the younger guys to develop.

Got it.

Brilliant analysis. You'll be running the Alabama program in no time.

If you want to build a real program, yes, that's what you do. Petersen and Chip Kelly and David Shaw are not out searching for JUCO kids or graduate transfers every off season. You build a great program internally with your own recruits. Not with bandaids that fill a hole for one year but leave another gaping hole when they leave. And don't act like this dude was banging down Oregon's door. They went after him and offered him the easiest path to playing time for his final season with a talented QB to throw him the ball.

Yeah, Peterson never signed a transfer. Especially at QB, because it might take away from your young QB’s reps.

One transfer to supplement an already competitive and talented position group is fine. Recruiting a bunch or JUCO transfers and 4-year transfers to fill gaping holes on your roster is different. Building a program is a process and it has to be built on a strong foundation of internal development. A bunch of transfers are either a waste of scholarships that could have gone to high school recruits or if they do pan out they stunt the development of others and leave a hole they previously filled when they leave. Oregon is not Bama. They're UW under Sark. A bunch of attrition due to poor recruiting evaluations and recruiting guys from across the country that are gonna leave if they're not playing early. Coaches trying to fill holes on a sinking boat with bubble gum. It's fun to watch. I got my popcorn ready.

If you need to bring in a transfer, you might not have a competitive and talented position group. Your best eligible QB last year threw one td pass all season (to the wrong team)

QB was not a weakness or a hole on the roster before Eason transferred. It's a false equivalency. Stop trying to make it work.

Disagree. Not one QB on the roster has proven anything, and it sounds to me like, outside of hoping Eason's pedigree bears out, the other QB's are all shit.

They don't have to. They have the physical talent everybody is looking for. Even little Haener has more arm talent than Browning. QB depth and talent wasn't a weakness for us before Eason transferred in. Keep trying to make it work though.

QB not a weakness, but the only QB on the roster with playing time at UW puked all over the field at Cal. Yeah, that's not a weakness...UW could be a 7 win or 11+ win team this season, and it all hinges on the great unknown at QB.

If UW was in another conference I might agree that there is potential if things went south that 7 wins could happen. But it's the PAC 12. UW's defense alone will win them 7 games, and with a below average offense, they are winning 9 minimum.

 

[whlinder]

So Johnson’s originally planned QB for this year, Tommy Stevens, hit the portal and is leaving PSU. Senior who was originally supposed to start but think he got beat out.

 

[creepycoug]

Gotta love big receivers who are too slow to really play receiver at a high level and too soft to play TE. #ScoDucks

There have been a lot of successful big receivers who are north of 4.4. The knock on him was his inconsistency in 2018. People loved him before that. They were smart to go get him. Little downside.

Except he's a one year rental who'll take game reps away from your younger receivers and slow down their growth and development. Helps Oregon for 2019, hurts them for 2020, especially if he becomes Herbert's favorite target.

You play for now. Next season is next seaon. If the other receivers warrant throws, then they'll get them. That's the nice thing about the position: it's all production. QBs are stingy people by nature. They want to complete passes and will throw to anyone who catches them.

Dillon is gone, and he was their passing game last season.

I also like big receivers if they play big. I'll take a guy who will catch a ball in traffic to move the chains all day long.

Go ahead and suck even worse in 2020. I don't care. Oregon always wants to put bandaids on holes on the roster instead of developing their own talent internally and that's why they suck and aren't going anywhere.

Let me get this straight. You play a season with one receiver who is worth a shit, and he leaves. A guy who has some upside wants to transfer from Penn State, but you tell him to fuck off because you need those reps this season for the younger guys to develop.

Got it.

Brilliant analysis. You'll be running the Alabama program in no time.

If you want to build a real program, yes, that's what you do. Petersen and Chip Kelly and David Shaw are not out searching for JUCO kids or graduate transfers every off season. You build a great program internally with your own recruits. Not with bandaids that fill a hole for one year but leave another gaping hole when they leave. And don't act like this dude was banging down Oregon's door. They went after him and offered him the easiest path to playing time for his final season with a talented QB to throw him the ball.

Yeah, Peterson never signed a transfer. Especially at QB, because it might take away from your young QB’s reps.

One transfer to supplement an already competitive and talented position group is fine. Recruiting a bunch or JUCO transfers and 4-year transfers to fill gaping holes on your roster is different. Building a program is a process and it has to be built on a strong foundation of internal development. A bunch of transfers are either a waste of scholarships that could have gone to high school recruits or if they do pan out they stunt the development of others and leave a hole they previously filled when they leave. Oregon is not Bama. They're UW under Sark. A bunch of attrition due to poor recruiting evaluations and recruiting guys from across the country that are gonna leave if they're not playing early. Coaches trying to fill holes on a sinking boat with bubble gum. It's fun to watch. I got my popcorn ready.

If you need to bring in a transfer, you might not have a competitive and talented position group. Your best eligible QB last year threw one td pass all season (to the wrong team)

QB was not a weakness or a hole on the roster before Eason transferred. It's a false equivalency. Stop trying to make it work.

Disagree. Not one QB on the roster has proven anything, and it sounds to me like, outside of hoping Eason's pedigree bears out, the other QB's are all shit.

They don't have to. They have the physical talent everybody is looking for. Even little Haener has more arm talent than Browning. QB depth and talent wasn't a weakness for us before Eason transferred in. Keep trying to make it work though.

QB not a weakness, but the only QB on the roster with playing time at UW puked all over the field at Cal. Yeah, that's not a weakness...UW could be a 7 win or 11+ win team this season, and it all hinges on the great unknown at QB.

If UW was in another conference I might agree that there is potential if things went south that 7 wins could happen. But it's the PAC 12. UW's defense alone will win them 7 games, and with a below average offense, they are winning 9 minimum.

Agree entirely. UW is winning more than 7 in this conference even if they sleep-walk through 2019.

 

[RaceBannon]

Gotta love big receivers who are too slow to really play receiver at a high level and too soft to play TE. #ScoDucks

There have been a lot of successful big receivers who are north of 4.4. The knock on him was his inconsistency in 2018. People loved him before that. They were smart to go get him. Little downside.

Except he's a one year rental who'll take game reps away from your younger receivers and slow down their growth and development. Helps Oregon for 2019, hurts them for 2020, especially if he becomes Herbert's favorite target.

You play for now. Next season is next seaon. If the other receivers warrant throws, then they'll get them. That's the nice thing about the position: it's all production. QBs are stingy people by nature. They want to complete passes and will throw to anyone who catches them.

Dillon is gone, and he was their passing game last season.

I also like big receivers if they play big. I'll take a guy who will catch a ball in traffic to move the chains all day long.

Go ahead and suck even worse in 2020. I don't care. Oregon always wants to put bandaids on holes on the roster instead of developing their own talent internally and that's why they suck and aren't going anywhere.

Let me get this straight. You play a season with one receiver who is worth a shit, and he leaves. A guy who has some upside wants to transfer from Penn State, but you tell him to fuck off because you need those reps this season for the younger guys to develop.

Got it.

Brilliant analysis. You'll be running the Alabama program in no time.

If you want to build a real program, yes, that's what you do. Petersen and Chip Kelly and David Shaw are not out searching for JUCO kids or graduate transfers every off season. You build a great program internally with your own recruits. Not with bandaids that fill a hole for one year but leave another gaping hole when they leave. And don't act like this dude was banging down Oregon's door. They went after him and offered him the easiest path to playing time for his final season with a talented QB to throw him the ball.

Yeah, Peterson never signed a transfer. Especially at QB, because it might take away from your young QB’s reps.

One transfer to supplement an already competitive and talented position group is fine. Recruiting a bunch or JUCO transfers and 4-year transfers to fill gaping holes on your roster is different. Building a program is a process and it has to be built on a strong foundation of internal development. A bunch of transfers are either a waste of scholarships that could have gone to high school recruits or if they do pan out they stunt the development of others and leave a hole they previously filled when they leave. Oregon is not Bama. They're UW under Sark. A bunch of attrition due to poor recruiting evaluations and recruiting guys from across the country that are gonna leave if they're not playing early. Coaches trying to fill holes on a sinking boat with bubble gum. It's fun to watch. I got my popcorn ready.

If you need to bring in a transfer, you might not have a competitive and talented position group. Your best eligible QB last year threw one td pass all season (to the wrong team)

QB was not a weakness or a hole on the roster before Eason transferred. It's a false equivalency. Stop trying to make it work.

Disagree. Not one QB on the roster has proven anything, and it sounds to me like, outside of hoping Eason's pedigree bears out, the other QB's are all shit.

They don't have to. They have the physical talent everybody is looking for. Even little Haener has more arm talent than Browning. QB depth and talent wasn't a weakness for us before Eason transferred in. Keep trying to make it work though.

QB not a weakness, but the only QB on the roster with playing time at UW puked all over the field at Cal. Yeah, that's not a weakness...UW could be a 7 win or 11+ win team this season, and it all hinges on the great unknown at QB.

If UW was in another conference I might agree that there is potential if things went south that 7 wins could happen. But it's the PAC 12. UW's defense alone will win them 7 games, and with a below average offense, they are winning 9 minimum.

Agree entirely. UW is winning more than 7 in this conference even if they sleep-walk through 2019.

UW is rebuilding or reloading depending on your confidence. Last year's veteran sqwad did sleep walk through a lot of the season and had the NFL on their mind

It would be interesting, but not interesting enough for me to do it, to see how teams with the new recruits stepping do in comparison to vet laden teams.

My experience just from watching is that a senior laden team is as often a curse as it is a blessing

 

[creepycoug]

Gotta love big receivers who are too slow to really play receiver at a high level and too soft to play TE. #ScoDucks

There have been a lot of successful big receivers who are north of 4.4. The knock on him was his inconsistency in 2018. People loved him before that. They were smart to go get him. Little downside.

Except he's a one year rental who'll take game reps away from your younger receivers and slow down their growth and development. Helps Oregon for 2019, hurts them for 2020, especially if he becomes Herbert's favorite target.

You play for now. Next season is next seaon. If the other receivers warrant throws, then they'll get them. That's the nice thing about the position: it's all production. QBs are stingy people by nature. They want to complete passes and will throw to anyone who catches them.

Dillon is gone, and he was their passing game last season.

I also like big receivers if they play big. I'll take a guy who will catch a ball in traffic to move the chains all day long.

Go ahead and suck even worse in 2020. I don't care. Oregon always wants to put bandaids on holes on the roster instead of developing their own talent internally and that's why they suck and aren't going anywhere.

Let me get this straight. You play a season with one receiver who is worth a shit, and he leaves. A guy who has some upside wants to transfer from Penn State, but you tell him to fuck off because you need those reps this season for the younger guys to develop.

Got it.

Brilliant analysis. You'll be running the Alabama program in no time.

If you want to build a real program, yes, that's what you do. Petersen and Chip Kelly and David Shaw are not out searching for JUCO kids or graduate transfers every off season. You build a great program internally with your own recruits. Not with bandaids that fill a hole for one year but leave another gaping hole when they leave. And don't act like this dude was banging down Oregon's door. They went after him and offered him the easiest path to playing time for his final season with a talented QB to throw him the ball.

Yeah, Peterson never signed a transfer. Especially at QB, because it might take away from your young QB’s reps.

One transfer to supplement an already competitive and talented position group is fine. Recruiting a bunch or JUCO transfers and 4-year transfers to fill gaping holes on your roster is different. Building a program is a process and it has to be built on a strong foundation of internal development. A bunch of transfers are either a waste of scholarships that could have gone to high school recruits or if they do pan out they stunt the development of others and leave a hole they previously filled when they leave. Oregon is not Bama. They're UW under Sark. A bunch of attrition due to poor recruiting evaluations and recruiting guys from across the country that are gonna leave if they're not playing early. Coaches trying to fill holes on a sinking boat with bubble gum. It's fun to watch. I got my popcorn ready.

If you need to bring in a transfer, you might not have a competitive and talented position group. Your best eligible QB last year threw one td pass all season (to the wrong team)

QB was not a weakness or a hole on the roster before Eason transferred. It's a false equivalency. Stop trying to make it work.

Disagree. Not one QB on the roster has proven anything, and it sounds to me like, outside of hoping Eason's pedigree bears out, the other QB's are all shit.

They don't have to. They have the physical talent everybody is looking for. Even little Haener has more arm talent than Browning. QB depth and talent wasn't a weakness for us before Eason transferred in. Keep trying to make it work though.

QB not a weakness, but the only QB on the roster with playing time at UW puked all over the field at Cal. Yeah, that's not a weakness...UW could be a 7 win or 11+ win team this season, and it all hinges on the great unknown at QB.

If UW was in another conference I might agree that there is potential if things went south that 7 wins could happen. But it's the PAC 12. UW's defense alone will win them 7 games, and with a below average offense, they are winning 9 minimum.

Agree entirely. UW is winning more than 7 in this conference even if they sleep-walk through 2019.

UW is rebuilding or reloading depending on your confidence. Last year's veteran sqwad did sleep walk through a lot of the season and had the NFL on their mind

It would be interesting, but not interesting enough for me to do it, to see how teams with the new recruits stepping do in comparison to vet laden teams.

My experience just from watching is that a senior laden team is as often a curse as it is a blessing

The thing that will be truly chintresting to see is how they replace Gaskin's production. I missed a lot of games this season for this or that reason, but my general impression was that there were a handful of games that involved "but for Gaskin, we lose". He really was a remarkable runner. I don't think Ahmed is capable of being Gaskin, but he's capable of being other things. He goes down on contact rather easily, so Peterman will have to find a way get him into space. I don't see him being the inside beast runner that Myles was.

 

[greenblood]

Gotta love big receivers who are too slow to really play receiver at a high level and too soft to play TE. #ScoDucks

There have been a lot of successful big receivers who are north of 4.4. The knock on him was his inconsistency in 2018. People loved him before that. They were smart to go get him. Little downside.

Except he's a one year rental who'll take game reps away from your younger receivers and slow down their growth and development. Helps Oregon for 2019, hurts them for 2020, especially if he becomes Herbert's favorite target.

You play for now. Next season is next seaon. If the other receivers warrant throws, then they'll get them. That's the nice thing about the position: it's all production. QBs are stingy people by nature. They want to complete passes and will throw to anyone who catches them.

Dillon is gone, and he was their passing game last season.

I also like big receivers if they play big. I'll take a guy who will catch a ball in traffic to move the chains all day long.

Go ahead and suck even worse in 2020. I don't care. Oregon always wants to put bandaids on holes on the roster instead of developing their own talent internally and that's why they suck and aren't going anywhere.

Let me get this straight. You play a season with one receiver who is worth a shit, and he leaves. A guy who has some upside wants to transfer from Penn State, but you tell him to fuck off because you need those reps this season for the younger guys to develop.

Got it.

Brilliant analysis. You'll be running the Alabama program in no time.

If you want to build a real program, yes, that's what you do. Petersen and Chip Kelly and David Shaw are not out searching for JUCO kids or graduate transfers every off season. You build a great program internally with your own recruits. Not with bandaids that fill a hole for one year but leave another gaping hole when they leave. And don't act like this dude was banging down Oregon's door. They went after him and offered him the easiest path to playing time for his final season with a talented QB to throw him the ball.

Yeah, Peterson never signed a transfer. Especially at QB, because it might take away from your young QB’s reps.

One transfer to supplement an already competitive and talented position group is fine. Recruiting a bunch or JUCO transfers and 4-year transfers to fill gaping holes on your roster is different. Building a program is a process and it has to be built on a strong foundation of internal development. A bunch of transfers are either a waste of scholarships that could have gone to high school recruits or if they do pan out they stunt the development of others and leave a hole they previously filled when they leave. Oregon is not Bama. They're UW under Sark. A bunch of attrition due to poor recruiting evaluations and recruiting guys from across the country that are gonna leave if they're not playing early. Coaches trying to fill holes on a sinking boat with bubble gum. It's fun to watch. I got my popcorn ready.

If you need to bring in a transfer, you might not have a competitive and talented position group. Your best eligible QB last year threw one td pass all season (to the wrong team)

QB was not a weakness or a hole on the roster before Eason transferred. It's a false equivalency. Stop trying to make it work.

Disagree. Not one QB on the roster has proven anything, and it sounds to me like, outside of hoping Eason's pedigree bears out, the other QB's are all shit.

They don't have to. They have the physical talent everybody is looking for. Even little Haener has more arm talent than Browning. QB depth and talent wasn't a weakness for us before Eason transferred in. Keep trying to make it work though.

QB not a weakness, but the only QB on the roster with playing time at UW puked all over the field at Cal. Yeah, that's not a weakness...UW could be a 7 win or 11+ win team this season, and it all hinges on the great unknown at QB.

If UW was in another conference I might agree that there is potential if things went south that 7 wins could happen. But it's the PAC 12. UW's defense alone will win them 7 games, and with a below average offense, they are winning 9 minimum.

Agree entirely. UW is winning more than 7 in this conference even if they sleep-walk through 2019.

UW is rebuilding or reloading depending on your confidence. Last year's veteran sqwad did sleep walk through a lot of the season and had the NFL on their mind

It would be interesting, but not interesting enough for me to do it, to see how teams with the new recruits stepping do in comparison to vet laden teams.

My experience just from watching is that a senior laden team is as often a curse as it is a blessing

The thing that will be truly chintresting to see is how they replace Gaskin's production. I missed a lot of games this season for this or that reason, but my general impression was that there were a handful of games that involved "but for Gaskin, we lose". He really was a remarkable runner. I don't think Ahmed is capable of being Gaskin, but he's capable of being other things. He goes down on contact rather easily, so Peterman will have to find a way get him into space. I don't see him being the inside beast runner that Myles was.

Just ask SAC. Ahmed is better

 

[lawsandl]

Gotta love big receivers who are too slow to really play receiver at a high level and too soft to play TE. #ScoDucks

There have been a lot of successful big receivers who are north of 4.4. The knock on him was his inconsistency in 2018. People loved him before that. They were smart to go get him. Little downside.

Except he's a one year rental who'll take game reps away from your younger receivers and slow down their growth and development. Helps Oregon for 2019, hurts them for 2020, especially if he becomes Herbert's favorite target.

You play for now. Next season is next seaon. If the other receivers warrant throws, then they'll get them. That's the nice thing about the position: it's all production. QBs are stingy people by nature. They want to complete passes and will throw to anyone who catches them.

Dillon is gone, and he was their passing game last season.

I also like big receivers if they play big. I'll take a guy who will catch a ball in traffic to move the chains all day long.

Go ahead and suck even worse in 2020. I don't care. Oregon always wants to put bandaids on holes on the roster instead of developing their own talent internally and that's why they suck and aren't going anywhere.

Let me get this straight. You play a season with one receiver who is worth a shit, and he leaves. A guy who has some upside wants to transfer from Penn State, but you tell him to fuck off because you need those reps this season for the younger guys to develop.

Got it.

Brilliant analysis. You'll be running the Alabama program in no time.

If you want to build a real program, yes, that's what you do. Petersen and Chip Kelly and David Shaw are not out searching for JUCO kids or graduate transfers every off season. You build a great program internally with your own recruits. Not with bandaids that fill a hole for one year but leave another gaping hole when they leave. And don't act like this dude was banging down Oregon's door. They went after him and offered him the easiest path to playing time for his final season with a talented QB to throw him the ball.

Yeah, Peterson never signed a transfer. Especially at QB, because it might take away from your young QB’s reps.

One transfer to supplement an already competitive and talented position group is fine. Recruiting a bunch or JUCO transfers and 4-year transfers to fill gaping holes on your roster is different. Building a program is a process and it has to be built on a strong foundation of internal development. A bunch of transfers are either a waste of scholarships that could have gone to high school recruits or if they do pan out they stunt the development of others and leave a hole they previously filled when they leave. Oregon is not Bama. They're UW under Sark. A bunch of attrition due to poor recruiting evaluations and recruiting guys from across the country that are gonna leave if they're not playing early. Coaches trying to fill holes on a sinking boat with bubble gum. It's fun to watch. I got my popcorn ready.

If you need to bring in a transfer, you might not have a competitive and talented position group. Your best eligible QB last year threw one td pass all season (to the wrong team)

QB was not a weakness or a hole on the roster before Eason transferred. It's a false equivalency. Stop trying to make it work.

Disagree. Not one QB on the roster has proven anything, and it sounds to me like, outside of hoping Eason's pedigree bears out, the other QB's are all shit.

They don't have to. They have the physical talent everybody is looking for. Even little Haener has more arm talent than Browning. QB depth and talent wasn't a weakness for us before Eason transferred in. Keep trying to make it work though.

QB not a weakness, but the only QB on the roster with playing time at UW puked all over the field at Cal. Yeah, that's not a weakness...UW could be a 7 win or 11+ win team this season, and it all hinges on the great unknown at QB.

If UW was in another conference I might agree that there is potential if things went south that 7 wins could happen. But it's the PAC 12. UW's defense alone will win them 7 games, and with a below average offense, they are winning 9 minimum.

Agree entirely. UW is winning more than 7 in this conference even if they sleep-walk through 2019.

UW is rebuilding or reloading depending on your confidence. Last year's veteran sqwad did sleep walk through a lot of the season and had the NFL on their mind

It would be interesting, but not interesting enough for me to do it, to see how teams with the new recruits stepping do in comparison to vet laden teams.

My experience just from watching is that a senior laden team is as often a curse as it is a blessing

The thing that will be truly chintresting to see is how they replace Gaskin's production. I missed a lot of games this season for this or that reason, but my general impression was that there were a handful of games that involved "but for Gaskin, we lose". He really was a remarkable runner. I don't think Ahmed is capable of being Gaskin, but he's capable of being other things. He goes down on contact rather easily, so Peterman will have to find a way get him into space. I don't see him being the inside beast runner that Myles was.

Just ask SAC. Ahmed is better

Yep. They’ve upgraded everywhere.

 

[RoadDawg55]

Gotta love big receivers who are too slow to really play receiver at a high level and too soft to play TE. #ScoDucks

There have been a lot of successful big receivers who are north of 4.4. The knock on him was his inconsistency in 2018. People loved him before that. They were smart to go get him. Little downside.

Except he's a one year rental who'll take game reps away from your younger receivers and slow down their growth and development. Helps Oregon for 2019, hurts them for 2020, especially if he becomes Herbert's favorite target.

You play for now. Next season is next seaon. If the other receivers warrant throws, then they'll get them. That's the nice thing about the position: it's all production. QBs are stingy people by nature. They want to complete passes and will throw to anyone who catches them.

Dillon is gone, and he was their passing game last season.

I also like big receivers if they play big. I'll take a guy who will catch a ball in traffic to move the chains all day long.

Go ahead and suck even worse in 2020. I don't care. Oregon always wants to put bandaids on holes on the roster instead of developing their own talent internally and that's why they suck and aren't going anywhere.

Let me get this straight. You play a season with one receiver who is worth a shit, and he leaves. A guy who has some upside wants to transfer from Penn State, but you tell him to fuck off because you need those reps this season for the younger guys to develop.

Got it.

Brilliant analysis. You'll be running the Alabama program in no time.

If you want to build a real program, yes, that's what you do. Petersen and Chip Kelly and David Shaw are not out searching for JUCO kids or graduate transfers every off season. You build a great program internally with your own recruits. Not with bandaids that fill a hole for one year but leave another gaping hole when they leave. And don't act like this dude was banging down Oregon's door. They went after him and offered him the easiest path to playing time for his final season with a talented QB to throw him the ball.

Yeah, Peterson never signed a transfer. Especially at QB, because it might take away from your young QB’s reps.

One transfer to supplement an already competitive and talented position group is fine. Recruiting a bunch or JUCO transfers and 4-year transfers to fill gaping holes on your roster is different. Building a program is a process and it has to be built on a strong foundation of internal development. A bunch of transfers are either a waste of scholarships that could have gone to high school recruits or if they do pan out they stunt the development of others and leave a hole they previously filled when they leave. Oregon is not Bama. They're UW under Sark. A bunch of attrition due to poor recruiting evaluations and recruiting guys from across the country that are gonna leave if they're not playing early. Coaches trying to fill holes on a sinking boat with bubble gum. It's fun to watch. I got my popcorn ready.

If you need to bring in a transfer, you might not have a competitive and talented position group. Your best eligible QB last year threw one td pass all season (to the wrong team)

QB was not a weakness or a hole on the roster before Eason transferred. It's a false equivalency. Stop trying to make it work.

Disagree. Not one QB on the roster has proven anything, and it sounds to me like, outside of hoping Eason's pedigree bears out, the other QB's are all shit.

They don't have to. They have the physical talent everybody is looking for. Even little Haener has more arm talent than Browning. QB depth and talent wasn't a weakness for us before Eason transferred in. Keep trying to make it work though.

QB not a weakness, but the only QB on the roster with playing time at UW puked all over the field at Cal. Yeah, that's not a weakness...UW could be a 7 win or 11+ win team this season, and it all hinges on the great unknown at QB.

If UW was in another conference I might agree that there is potential if things went south that 7 wins could happen. But it's the PAC 12. UW's defense alone will win them 7 games, and with a below average offense, they are winning 9 minimum.

Agree entirely. UW is winning more than 7 in this conference even if they sleep-walk through 2019.

UW is rebuilding or reloading depending on your confidence. Last year's veteran sqwad did sleep walk through a lot of the season and had the NFL on their mind

It would be interesting, but not interesting enough for me to do it, to see how teams with the new recruits stepping do in comparison to vet laden teams.

My experience just from watching is that a senior laden team is as often a curse as it is a blessing

Last year’s team had no explosion. Barely any sacks, dropped picks, and an offense led by Browning. The defense was good but but didn’t make very many big plays.

The offense was brutal. Browning sucked, Gaskin was injured, OL wasn’t great, and the WR’s sucked.

The great hope is moderate improvement and Eason. Browning was a liability and our QB’s have been a liability since Pete took over.

 

[Kaepsknee]

Gotta love big receivers who are too slow to really play receiver at a high level and too soft to play TE. #ScoDucks

There have been a lot of successful big receivers who are north of 4.4. The knock on him was his inconsistency in 2018. People loved him before that. They were smart to go get him. Little downside.

Except he's a one year rental who'll take game reps away from your younger receivers and slow down their growth and development. Helps Oregon for 2019, hurts them for 2020, especially if he becomes Herbert's favorite target.

You play for now. Next season is next seaon. If the other receivers warrant throws, then they'll get them. That's the nice thing about the position: it's all production. QBs are stingy people by nature. They want to complete passes and will throw to anyone who catches them.

Dillon is gone, and he was their passing game last season.

I also like big receivers if they play big. I'll take a guy who will catch a ball in traffic to move the chains all day long.

Go ahead and suck even worse in 2020. I don't care. Oregon always wants to put bandaids on holes on the roster instead of developing their own talent internally and that's why they suck and aren't going anywhere.

Let me get this straight. You play a season with one receiver who is worth a shit, and he leaves. A guy who has some upside wants to transfer from Penn State, but you tell him to fuck off because you need those reps this season for the younger guys to develop.

Got it.

Brilliant analysis. You'll be running the Alabama program in no time.

If you want to build a real program, yes, that's what you do. Petersen and Chip Kelly and David Shaw are not out searching for JUCO kids or graduate transfers every off season. You build a great program internally with your own recruits. Not with bandaids that fill a hole for one year but leave another gaping hole when they leave. And don't act like this dude was banging down Oregon's door. They went after him and offered him the easiest path to playing time for his final season with a talented QB to throw him the ball.

Let me help you out a little since you seem to be a little tone deaf and dumb.

While it IS true that you do NOT want to have a heavy amount of transfers on your lines, It makes little difference for skill positions.

You are basically saying that the Cougs may have messed up by allowing Gardner Minshew to start because Trey Tinsley didn't get the reps He needed last year to win the job this year.

You play the best kids you can get, as many plays as you can play them. If a young guy doesn't see the field because of it, He can redshirt. And with the new RS rules, said disadvantaged kid can play a bunch of games and still redshirt. If He has already burned the RS, and isn't seeing the field, then He probably isn't gonna ever be the GUY at his position, anyway.

 

[Kaepsknee]

Hubert can make throws like the one at the end of the first half against our DAWGS for a TD that makes scouts drool. Results are less important than potential

I do think he left a ton of money on the table by not being in this draft. If he struggles this year to be consistent it will hurt him

It's really what drives me crazy about all of the preseason Oregon hype. There are Twitter pundits who are actually predicting an undefeated regular season and a playoff berth? Why!? Smart people were able to look at how 2015 finished for UW and predict big things in 2016. That made sense: The conference's best defense, an offense on which the three most important positions were true freshmen who all improved bigly toward the end of the season, and closing out the season with three straight wins including a spanking of a top-25 team. Largest loss of the season was 17 points in a game with the backup QB. Even with three true freshmen at the most important positions on offense, they were a team that was dangerous in every single game they played.

Oregon? They had a better record than that 2015 Huskies team, but that's with a junior, supposedly #1 overall draft pick, at QB and against the weakest PAC-x conference I've seen in my lifetim. They got blown out 15-44 by freaking Arizona! They lost to the freaking Cuog by two touchdowns, barely beat ASU by 2 at home near the end of the season, and their bowl game was the only game of the entire CFB season that was a bigger turd than the Huskies' P12CG. In the meantime, they lost a receiver who was something like 70% of their passing offense last season, lost easily half of their front-seven talent in Hollins and Jelks, and apparently STILL nobody in the country has actually watched Herbert play.

And it's that last point that gets me. I could give three shits about any team, let alone Oregon, getting preseason hype if the hype if it's justified. In this case, though, the hype seems to be derived 50% from an incoming freshman class (stuuuuuuupid) and 50% from the return of a QB who's been at best wildly inconsistent his entire career butusedtobea#1projectionsohegood. Makes no sense.

TL, DR. Shorten your shit up.

 

[Ballz]

Gotta love big receivers who are too slow to really play receiver at a high level and too soft to play TE. #ScoDucks

There have been a lot of successful big receivers who are north of 4.4. The knock on him was his inconsistency in 2018. People loved him before that. They were smart to go get him. Little downside.

Except he's a one year rental who'll take game reps away from your younger receivers and slow down their growth and development. Helps Oregon for 2019, hurts them for 2020, especially if he becomes Herbert's favorite target.

You play for now. Next season is next seaon. If the other receivers warrant throws, then they'll get them. That's the nice thing about the position: it's all production. QBs are stingy people by nature. They want to complete passes and will throw to anyone who catches them.

Dillon is gone, and he was their passing game last season.

I also like big receivers if they play big. I'll take a guy who will catch a ball in traffic to move the chains all day long.

Go ahead and suck even worse in 2020. I don't care. Oregon always wants to put bandaids on holes on the roster instead of developing their own talent internally and that's why they suck and aren't going anywhere.

Let me get this straight. You play a season with one receiver who is worth a shit, and he leaves. A guy who has some upside wants to transfer from Penn State, but you tell him to fuck off because you need those reps this season for the younger guys to develop.

Got it.

Brilliant analysis. You'll be running the Alabama program in no time.

If you want to build a real program, yes, that's what you do. Petersen and Chip Kelly and David Shaw are not out searching for JUCO kids or graduate transfers every off season. You build a great program internally with your own recruits. Not with bandaids that fill a hole for one year but leave another gaping hole when they leave. And don't act like this dude was banging down Oregon's door. They went after him and offered him the easiest path to playing time for his final season with a talented QB to throw him the ball.

Let me help you out a little since you seem to be a little tone deaf and dumb.

While it IS true that you do NOT want to have a heavy amount of transfers on your lines, It makes little difference for skill positions.

You are basically saying that the Cougs may have messed up by allowing Gardner Minshew to start because Trey Tinsley didn't get the reps He needed last year to win the job this year.

You play the best kids you can get, as many plays as you can play them. If a young guy doesn't see the field because of it, He can redshirt. And with the new RS rules, said disadvantaged kid can play a bunch of games and still redshirt. If He has already burned the RS, and isn't seeing the field, then He probably isn't gonna ever be the GUY at his position, anyway.

That's cool, we'll just keep developing our own talent in-house and keep kicking your ass all up and down the field.