Down goes Chesa

[rodmansrage]

If you don't arrest people and you don't prosecute them and the people stop reporting crime because they know nothing will happen it's amazing how much the crime rate drops.

More people died in San Francisco last year from fentanyl overdoses than covid-19, yet District Attorney Chesa Boudin did not convict a single person in 2021 for dealing the lethal opioid.[/i][/b]

I guess fentanyl isn't really a problem in SF.

maybe he was dealin on the side? not cheap to live in that city.

 

[46XiJCAB]

The Blamer in Chief

President Joe Biden told reporters on Wednesday that the primaries that took place the day before "sent a clear message" about crime and gun violence.

"I think the voters sent a clear message last night. Both parties have to step up and do something about crime, as well as gun violence," Biden said before stepping on board Air Force One.

He went on to note that the American Rescue Plan allocated billions "to hire police officers and reform the police departments," but said that "very few have done it."

"The first major bill we passed, we gave the states and localities billions of dollars, billions of dollars, and encourage them to use it to hire police officers and reform their police departments. Very few have done it," Biden said.

"It's time the states and the localities spend the money they have to deal with crime, as well as retrain police officers, as well as provide for more community policing. It's time to get on with doing that. And that's what I think the message last night from the American public was in all the primaries," he continued.

Biden's remarks come the day after San Francisco District Attorney Chesa Boudin, one of the most liberal prosecutors serving in a major U.S. city, lost a recall election.

Joe is about as convincing as that bullshit ad Patty Murray was running where she claimed she stands up for the middle class.

Is she still in tennis shoes?

https://twitter.com/sfchronicle/status/1534385250276675589?s=20&t=tr1-BuzvHssJM4AYfN3-og

Only actual support came from Hayes, Haight, and Mission. Better to have fentanyl than clean streets I guess

Edit:

Curtis Bradford, co-chair of the Tenderloin People’s Congress[/b], opposed the recall and considers it “a political hatchet job” on one person who can’t be blamed for all the city’s crises, which include homelessness, stark income inequality and untreated mental illness. He said the pandemic induced fear and chaos and shined a bright light on where government isn’t working, prompting people to be understandably upset.

“Generally, we all want the same things — clean, safe neighborhoods, access to food and health care and housing[/b]. We want people to be taken care of[/b] and crime to be low and our children to be safe,” Bradford said. “There’s a sense that our needs aren’t being met whether you’re living in the Tenderloin or you’re living in Pacific Heights.”[/i]

First , why the fuck does the Tenderloin have a "Congress"

Second, notice how the things people supposedly want don't include any accountability? Handouts, handouts, handouts.

when hunters point says 'crime is too high' you have a problem.

So start building the wall around the entire area and let them play Escape from NY for real. While the rest of SF enjoys one of the once most beautiful cities in the world.

 

[RaceBannon]

Riverside county did go for Trump but still lawn and order is a winning issue. Incumbent sheriff won in spite of the usual bullshit

https://msn.com/en-us/news/world/riverside-county-sheriff-chad-bianco-appears-to-win-re-election/ar-AAYeGVq

Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco is on track to win re-election by a comfortable margin in results posted Wednesday, June 8.

Results published on the Riverside County Registrar of Voters’ website showed Bianco leading retired sheriff’s Capt. Michael Lujan 58% to 42%, with more than 177,000 votes tallied.

About 150,000 vote-by-mail ballots and 2,000 provisional ballots remained to be counted going into Wednesday evening. And mail-in ballots postmarked by Election Day and received by June 14 also must be counted.

Bianco declared victory in a Facebook post.

“It clearly sends a strong message that identity politics and blatant lies during a campaign will not sway voters who are legitimately concerned about law enforcement and public safety,” he wrote. “Outside special interests and anti-public safety agendas have no business in the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department.”

Riverside County sheriff won’t require COVID-19 vaccinations for jail, other employees

He also admitted to being a dues-paying member in 2014 of the Oath Keepers, a militia known for far-right views whose leaders have been indicted on charges stemming from the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol insurrection. Bianco has defended the Oath Keepers but said he has no interest in re-joining the group.

Lujan, who retired in 2020 after a stint in charge of the Lake Elsinore sheriff’s station, called Bianco a political extremist and vowed to take a non-political approach to law enforcement.[/b]

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[RoadTrip]

Riverside county did go for Trump but still lawn and order is a winning issue. Incumbent sheriff won in spite of the usual bullshit

https://msn.com/en-us/news/world/riverside-county-sheriff-chad-bianco-appears-to-win-re-election/ar-AAYeGVq

Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco is on track to win re-election by a comfortable margin in results posted Wednesday, June 8.

Results published on the Riverside County Registrar of Voters’ website showed Bianco leading retired sheriff’s Capt. Michael Lujan 58% to 42%, with more than 177,000 votes tallied.

About 150,000 vote-by-mail ballots and 2,000 provisional ballots remained to be counted going into Wednesday evening.[/b] And mail-in ballots postmarked by Election Day and received by June 14 also must be counted.

Bianco declared victory in a Facebook post.

“It clearly sends a strong message that identity politics and blatant lies during a campaign will not sway voters who are legitimately concerned about law enforcement and public safety,” he wrote. “Outside special interests and anti-public safety agendas have no business in the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department.”

Riverside County sheriff won’t require COVID-19 vaccinations for jail, other employees

He also admitted to being a dues-paying member in 2014 of the Oath Keepers, a militia known for far-right views whose leaders have been indicted on charges stemming from the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol insurrection. Bianco has defended the Oath Keepers but said he has no interest in re-joining the group.

Lujan, who retired in 2020 after a stint in charge of the Lake Elsinore sheriff’s station, called Bianco a political extremist and vowed to take a non-political approach to law enforcement.[/b]

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So the Marxist will win by 152,001?

 

[TurdBomber]

Riverside county did go for Trump but still lawn and order is a winning issue. Incumbent sheriff won in spite of the usual bullshit

https://msn.com/en-us/news/world/riverside-county-sheriff-chad-bianco-appears-to-win-re-election/ar-AAYeGVq

Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco is on track to win re-election by a comfortable margin in results posted Wednesday, June 8.

Results published on the Riverside County Registrar of Voters’ website showed Bianco leading retired sheriff’s Capt. Michael Lujan 58% to 42%, with more than 177,000 votes tallied.

About 150,000 vote-by-mail ballots and 2,000 provisional ballots remained to be counted going into Wednesday evening.[/b] And mail-in ballots postmarked by Election Day and received by June 14 also must be counted.

Bianco declared victory in a Facebook post.

“It clearly sends a strong message that identity politics and blatant lies during a campaign will not sway voters who are legitimately concerned about law enforcement and public safety,” he wrote. “Outside special interests and anti-public safety agendas have no business in the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department.”

Riverside County sheriff won’t require COVID-19 vaccinations for jail, other employees

He also admitted to being a dues-paying member in 2014 of the Oath Keepers, a militia known for far-right views whose leaders have been indicted on charges stemming from the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol insurrection. Bianco has defended the Oath Keepers but said he has no interest in re-joining the group.

Lujan, who retired in 2020 after a stint in charge of the Lake Elsinore sheriff’s station, called Bianco a political extremist and vowed to take a non-political approach to law enforcement.[/b]

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So the Marxist will win by 152,001?

Lucifer would win in a lot of historically liberal bastions these days.

TDS has caused massive shark jumping beyond the pale of reason and the horrible progressive ideologies have played out like a fart in church. Funny, but completely ineffective.

 

[Edwin_Bambino]

All the Ultra Maga's in San Fran did this.

All joking aside, I heard a report a couple months ago how Bay Area Chinese and some Japanese and Koreans were getting political and going "MAGA" because they're disgusted by how the state/city are being run. The report focused on the Chinese saying how they usually don't like to get active politically but things have gotten way out of hand.

Anecdotally this is true, Chinese American highschool kid I tutored in the city and all his buddies have turned pretty MAGA.

But it was incredibly disingenuous the way the Boudin campaign ran their recall election. Only 7 percent of San Franciscans are registered republicans, while there was some conservative outside funding this wasn’t some sinister outside take down. Trump wasn’t flying in to appoint the new DA, London Breed would get to pick a new DA.

People are sick of car break ins, sick of open air drug markets, sick of crazy homeless people running around doing whatever they want, sick of burglaries and package thefts. The Asian American community feels like they aren’t being heard.

I spent the last few years living in Polk Gulch, kind of the intersection of Pac Heights, Nob Hill, with spill over from the tenderloin. I felt like I was gaslighted with the reports that crime is down under Boudin based on what I have witnessed, and anecdotal evidence from my friends. The vast majority of shit never even gets reported. I voted to recall, all of my friends did as well, I guess according to Chesa Boudin supporters I’m no longer a Democrat but whatever.

Breed no longer has a scape goat to hide behind so she better get to fixing or her political ambitions might be blown up next.

Are San Franciscans as besieged with white guilt as Seattleites or Portlanders? If so, SF is fucked, regardless.

The Asian American demographic which is maybe more than a third of the city certainly isn’t. They have more voting power than in Seattle or Portland. The white democratic vote is probably 50/50 between those who would essentially be categorized as the Democratic Socialist / Progressive Sawant type liberals and those like myself who would categorize themselves as more moderate democrats at this point.

Boudin only got like 39 percent of the vote when he won, the two moderate candidates who received more than 50 percent of the vote took enough votes from each other that it allowed for Boudin to win with a minority of the votes in a ranked voting system. He decided this than give him a mandate to run with his SJW reformist agenda when really that’s not what the majority of the city was interested in. The recall is the result.

Locally the majority of people really only care about three things at this point, Homelessness, property crime, and building more housing both affordable and otherwise. There was recently a state senate vote for half of the city and the guy who ran his campaign based on those three things crushed the more progressive gay Hispanic candidate from the mission who ran on NIMBYism and anti gentrification. Guy didn’t even win the neighborhood he grew up in.

 

[RoadTrip]

All the Ultra Maga's in San Fran did this.

All joking aside, I heard a report a couple months ago how Bay Area Chinese and some Japanese and Koreans were getting political and going "MAGA" because they're disgusted by how the state/city are being run. The report focused on the Chinese saying how they usually don't like to get active politically but things have gotten way out of hand.

Anecdotally this is true, Chinese American highschool kid I tutored in the city and all his buddies have turned pretty MAGA.

But it was incredibly disingenuous the way the Boudin campaign ran their recall election. Only 7 percent of San Franciscans are registered republicans, while there was some conservative outside funding this wasn’t some sinister outside take down. Trump wasn’t flying in to appoint the new DA, London Breed would get to pick a new DA.

People are sick of car break ins, sick of open air drug markets, sick of crazy homeless people running around doing whatever they want, sick of burglaries and package thefts. The Asian American community feels like they aren’t being heard.

I spent the last few years living in Polk Gulch, kind of the intersection of Pac Heights, Nob Hill, with spill over from the tenderloin. I felt like I was gaslighted with the reports that crime is down under Boudin based on what I have witnessed, and anecdotal evidence from my friends. The vast majority of shit never even gets reported. I voted to recall, all of my friends did as well, I guess according to Chesa Boudin supporters I’m no longer a Democrat but whatever.

Breed no longer has a scape goat to hide behind so she better get to fixing or her political ambitions might be blown up next.

Are San Franciscans as besieged with white guilt as Seattleites or Portlanders? If so, SF is fucked, regardless.

The Asian American demographic which is maybe more than a third of the city certainly isn’t. They have more voting power than in Seattle or Portland. The white democratic vote is probably 50/50 between those who would essentially be categorized as the Democratic Socialist / Progressive Sawant type liberals and those like myself who would categorize themselves as more moderate democrats at this point.

Boudin only got like 39 percent of the vote when he won, the two moderate candidates who received more than 50 percent of the vote took enough votes from each other that it allowed for Boudin to win with a minority of the votes in a ranked voting system. He decided this than give him a mandate to run with his SJW reformist agenda when really that’s not what the majority of the city was interested in. The recall is the result.

Locally the majority of people really only care about three things at this point, Homelessness, property crime, and building more housing both affordable and otherwise. There was recently a state senate vote for half of the city and the guy who ran his campaign based on those three things crushed the more progressive gay Hispanic candidate from the mission who ran on NIMBYism and anti gentrification. Guy didn’t even win the neighborhood he grew up in.

Thank you for wanting an honest engagement but there is no such thing as a moderate democrat these days. That kind of opinion can get you put into solitary confinement today.

 

[WestlinnDuck]

Honest question, what issues would make you a " more moderate" democrat versus a "moderate" republican?

All the Ultra Maga's in San Fran did this.

All joking aside, I heard a report a couple months ago how Bay Area Chinese and some Japanese and Koreans were getting political and going "MAGA" because they're disgusted by how the state/city are being run. The report focused on the Chinese saying how they usually don't like to get active politically but things have gotten way out of hand.

Anecdotally this is true, Chinese American highschool kid I tutored in the city and all his buddies have turned pretty MAGA.

But it was incredibly disingenuous the way the Boudin campaign ran their recall election. Only 7 percent of San Franciscans are registered republicans, while there was some conservative outside funding this wasn’t some sinister outside take down. Trump wasn’t flying in to appoint the new DA, London Breed would get to pick a new DA.

People are sick of car break ins, sick of open air drug markets, sick of crazy homeless people running around doing whatever they want, sick of burglaries and package thefts. The Asian American community feels like they aren’t being heard.

I spent the last few years living in Polk Gulch, kind of the intersection of Pac Heights, Nob Hill, with spill over from the tenderloin. I felt like I was gaslighted with the reports that crime is down under Boudin based on what I have witnessed, and anecdotal evidence from my friends. The vast majority of shit never even gets reported. I voted to recall, all of my friends did as well, I guess according to Chesa Boudin supporters I’m no longer a Democrat but whatever.

Breed no longer has a scape goat to hide behind so she better get to fixing or her political ambitions might be blown up next.

Are San Franciscans as besieged with white guilt as Seattleites or Portlanders? If so, SF is fucked, regardless.

The Asian American demographic which is maybe more than a third of the city certainly isn’t. They have more voting power than in Seattle or Portland. The white democratic vote is probably 50/50 between those who would essentially be categorized as the Democratic Socialist / Progressive Sawant type liberals and those like myself who would categorize themselves as more moderate democrats[/b] at this point.

Boudin only got like 39 percent of the vote when he won, the two moderate candidates who received more than 50 percent of the vote took enough votes from each other that it allowed for Boudin to win with a minority of the votes in a ranked voting system. He decided this than give him a mandate to run with his SJW reformist agenda when really that’s not what the majority of the city was interested in. The recall is the result.

Locally the majority of people really only care about three things at this point, Homelessness, property crime, and building more housing both affordable and otherwise. There was recently a state senate vote for half of the city and the guy who ran his campaign based on those three things crushed the more progressive gay Hispanic candidate from the mission who ran on NIMBYism and anti gentrification. Guy didn’t even win the neighborhood he grew up in.

 

[Edwin_Bambino]

All the Ultra Maga's in San Fran did this.

All joking aside, I heard a report a couple months ago how Bay Area Chinese and some Japanese and Koreans were getting political and going "MAGA" because they're disgusted by how the state/city are being run. The report focused on the Chinese saying how they usually don't like to get active politically but things have gotten way out of hand.

Anecdotally this is true, Chinese American highschool kid I tutored in the city and all his buddies have turned pretty MAGA.

But it was incredibly disingenuous the way the Boudin campaign ran their recall election. Only 7 percent of San Franciscans are registered republicans, while there was some conservative outside funding this wasn’t some sinister outside take down. Trump wasn’t flying in to appoint the new DA, London Breed would get to pick a new DA.

People are sick of car break ins, sick of open air drug markets, sick of crazy homeless people running around doing whatever they want, sick of burglaries and package thefts. The Asian American community feels like they aren’t being heard.

I spent the last few years living in Polk Gulch, kind of the intersection of Pac Heights, Nob Hill, with spill over from the tenderloin. I felt like I was gaslighted with the reports that crime is down under Boudin based on what I have witnessed, and anecdotal evidence from my friends. The vast majority of shit never even gets reported. I voted to recall, all of my friends did as well, I guess according to Chesa Boudin supporters I’m no longer a Democrat but whatever.

Breed no longer has a scape goat to hide behind so she better get to fixing or her political ambitions might be blown up next.

Are San Franciscans as besieged with white guilt as Seattleites or Portlanders? If so, SF is fucked, regardless.

The Asian American demographic which is maybe more than a third of the city certainly isn’t. They have more voting power than in Seattle or Portland. The white democratic vote is probably 50/50 between those who would essentially be categorized as the Democratic Socialist / Progressive Sawant type liberals and those like myself who would categorize themselves as more moderate democrats at this point.

Boudin only got like 39 percent of the vote when he won, the two moderate candidates who received more than 50 percent of the vote took enough votes from each other that it allowed for Boudin to win with a minority of the votes in a ranked voting system. He decided this than give him a mandate to run with his SJW reformist agenda when really that’s not what the majority of the city was interested in. The recall is the result.

Locally the majority of people really only care about three things at this point, Homelessness, property crime, and building more housing both affordable and otherwise. There was recently a state senate vote for half of the city and the guy who ran his campaign based on those three things crushed the more progressive gay Hispanic candidate from the mission who ran on NIMBYism and anti gentrification. Guy didn’t even win the neighborhood he grew up in.

Thank you for wanting an honest engagement but there is no such thing as a moderate democrat these days. That kind of opinion can get you put into solitary confinement today.

Eh that may or may not be true. I think a lot of people would say the same for republicans, maybe not on this forum but you get my point. I’m just providing my perspective as someone who has lived in SF for a decade and is a democrat who supported the recall, instead of the hot takes you see on MSNBC or Fox News.

 

[RaceBannon]

All the Ultra Maga's in San Fran did this.

All joking aside, I heard a report a couple months ago how Bay Area Chinese and some Japanese and Koreans were getting political and going "MAGA" because they're disgusted by how the state/city are being run. The report focused on the Chinese saying how they usually don't like to get active politically but things have gotten way out of hand.

Anecdotally this is true, Chinese American highschool kid I tutored in the city and all his buddies have turned pretty MAGA.

But it was incredibly disingenuous the way the Boudin campaign ran their recall election. Only 7 percent of San Franciscans are registered republicans, while there was some conservative outside funding this wasn’t some sinister outside take down. Trump wasn’t flying in to appoint the new DA, London Breed would get to pick a new DA.

People are sick of car break ins, sick of open air drug markets, sick of crazy homeless people running around doing whatever they want, sick of burglaries and package thefts. The Asian American community feels like they aren’t being heard.

I spent the last few years living in Polk Gulch, kind of the intersection of Pac Heights, Nob Hill, with spill over from the tenderloin. I felt like I was gaslighted with the reports that crime is down under Boudin based on what I have witnessed, and anecdotal evidence from my friends. The vast majority of shit never even gets reported. I voted to recall, all of my friends did as well, I guess according to Chesa Boudin supporters I’m no longer a Democrat but whatever.

Breed no longer has a scape goat to hide behind so she better get to fixing or her political ambitions might be blown up next.

Are San Franciscans as besieged with white guilt as Seattleites or Portlanders? If so, SF is fucked, regardless.

The Asian American demographic which is maybe more than a third of the city certainly isn’t. They have more voting power than in Seattle or Portland. The white democratic vote is probably 50/50 between those who would essentially be categorized as the Democratic Socialist / Progressive Sawant type liberals and those like myself who would categorize themselves as more moderate democrats at this point.

Boudin only got like 39 percent of the vote when he won, the two moderate candidates who received more than 50 percent of the vote took enough votes from each other that it allowed for Boudin to win with a minority of the votes in a ranked voting system. He decided this than give him a mandate to run with his SJW reformist agenda when really that’s not what the majority of the city was interested in. The recall is the result.

Locally the majority of people really only care about three things at this point, Homelessness, property crime, and building more housing both affordable and otherwise. There was recently a state senate vote for half of the city and the guy who ran his campaign based on those three things crushed the more progressive gay Hispanic candidate from the mission who ran on NIMBYism and anti gentrification. Guy didn’t even win the neighborhood he grew up in.

Thank you for wanting an honest engagement but there is no such thing as a moderate democrat these days. That kind of opinion can get you put into solitary confinement today.

Eh that may or may not be true. I think a lot of people would say the same for republicans, maybe not on this forum but you get my point. I’m just providing my perspective as someone who has lived in SF for a decade and is a democrat who supported the recall, instead of the hot takes you see on MSNBC or Fox News.

I have no issue with your description of yourself

I voted straight Democrat until 04

Trump distorted the spectrum but it looks like the lords of the media are finally catching on. It was never a cult of personality. It was the ideas and someone who wouldn't apologize for them

Certainly the messenger could have been better but we work with what we have
http://twitter.com/bpolitics/status/1534601186522943494?t=ILGG6kXcArZMDIJI3uanbg&s=19

 

[SFGbob]

All the Ultra Maga's in San Fran did this.

All joking aside, I heard a report a couple months ago how Bay Area Chinese and some Japanese and Koreans were getting political and going "MAGA" because they're disgusted by how the state/city are being run. The report focused on the Chinese saying how they usually don't like to get active politically but things have gotten way out of hand.

Anecdotally this is true, Chinese American highschool kid I tutored in the city and all his buddies have turned pretty MAGA.

But it was incredibly disingenuous the way the Boudin campaign ran their recall election. Only 7 percent of San Franciscans are registered republicans, while there was some conservative outside funding this wasn’t some sinister outside take down. Trump wasn’t flying in to appoint the new DA, London Breed would get to pick a new DA.

People are sick of car break ins, sick of open air drug markets, sick of crazy homeless people running around doing whatever they want, sick of burglaries and package thefts. The Asian American community feels like they aren’t being heard.

I spent the last few years living in Polk Gulch, kind of the intersection of Pac Heights, Nob Hill, with spill over from the tenderloin. I felt like I was gaslighted with the reports that crime is down under Boudin based on what I have witnessed, and anecdotal evidence from my friends. The vast majority of shit never even gets reported. I voted to recall, all of my friends did as well, I guess according to Chesa Boudin supporters I’m no longer a Democrat but whatever.

Breed no longer has a scape goat to hide behind so she better get to fixing or her political ambitions might be blown up next.

Are San Franciscans as besieged with white guilt as Seattleites or Portlanders? If so, SF is fucked, regardless.

The Asian American demographic which is maybe more than a third of the city certainly isn’t. They have more voting power than in Seattle or Portland. The white democratic vote is probably 50/50 between those who would essentially be categorized as the Democratic Socialist / Progressive Sawant type liberals and those like myself who would categorize themselves as more moderate democrats at this point.

Boudin only got like 39 percent of the vote when he won, the two moderate candidates who received more than 50 percent of the vote took enough votes from each other that it allowed for Boudin to win with a minority of the votes in a ranked voting system. He decided this than give him a mandate to run with his SJW reformist agenda when really that’s not what the majority of the city was interested in. The recall is the result.

Locally the majority of people really only care about three things at this point, Homelessness, property crime, and building more housing both affordable and otherwise. There was recently a state senate vote for half of the city and the guy who ran his campaign based on those three things crushed the more progressive gay Hispanic candidate from the mission who ran on NIMBYism and anti gentrification. Guy didn’t even win the neighborhood he grew up in.

Thank you for wanting an honest engagement but there is no such thing as a moderate democrat these days. That kind of opinion can get you put into solitary confinement today.

Eh that may or may not be true. I think a lot of people would say the same for republicans, maybe not on this forum but you get my point. I’m just providing my perspective as someone who has lived in SF for a decade and is a democrat who supported the recall, instead of the hot takes you see on MSNBC or Fox News.

There are Republicans that support abortion rights. I know because I am one. There are no Rats who oppose abortion. The party doesn't even allow anyone with that position to speak at the party convention. What qualifies you as a moderate?

 

[46XiJCAB]

The last Blue Dog DIM was Evan Byah IN. He left when it was obvious to him his party had been corrupted by Progressives.

 

[WestlinnDuck]

Exactly. That's why I didn't expect Edwin to explain some pretty basic stuff, like why he would vote for an anti-American anti-free enterprise dementia patient over Trump. Ed likes $6 a gallon gas? Average 30 year mortgage rate just hit 5.2% up from under 3% when the dementia patient got elected. I don't think phucking over working Americans is moderate at all. So, a $300,000 30 year fixed mortgage is $1,265 a month at 3.0% and $1,647 a month at 5.2% or just about $4,600 a year in increased costs for a shitty basic starter home or a small condo. Average home price in Portland is now $550,000. A moderate republican would say build more houses with less regulations. A moderate democrat votes for dems who want no new single residential developments.

All the Ultra Maga's in San Fran did this.

All joking aside, I heard a report a couple months ago how Bay Area Chinese and some Japanese and Koreans were getting political and going "MAGA" because they're disgusted by how the state/city are being run. The report focused on the Chinese saying how they usually don't like to get active politically but things have gotten way out of hand.

Anecdotally this is true, Chinese American highschool kid I tutored in the city and all his buddies have turned pretty MAGA.

But it was incredibly disingenuous the way the Boudin campaign ran their recall election. Only 7 percent of San Franciscans are registered republicans, while there was some conservative outside funding this wasn’t some sinister outside take down. Trump wasn’t flying in to appoint the new DA, London Breed would get to pick a new DA.

People are sick of car break ins, sick of open air drug markets, sick of crazy homeless people running around doing whatever they want, sick of burglaries and package thefts. The Asian American community feels like they aren’t being heard.

I spent the last few years living in Polk Gulch, kind of the intersection of Pac Heights, Nob Hill, with spill over from the tenderloin. I felt like I was gaslighted with the reports that crime is down under Boudin based on what I have witnessed, and anecdotal evidence from my friends. The vast majority of shit never even gets reported. I voted to recall, all of my friends did as well, I guess according to Chesa Boudin supporters I’m no longer a Democrat but whatever.

Breed no longer has a scape goat to hide behind so she better get to fixing or her political ambitions might be blown up next.

Are San Franciscans as besieged with white guilt as Seattleites or Portlanders? If so, SF is fucked, regardless.

The Asian American demographic which is maybe more than a third of the city certainly isn’t. They have more voting power than in Seattle or Portland. The white democratic vote is probably 50/50 between those who would essentially be categorized as the Democratic Socialist / Progressive Sawant type liberals and those like myself who would categorize themselves as more moderate democrats at this point.

Boudin only got like 39 percent of the vote when he won, the two moderate candidates who received more than 50 percent of the vote took enough votes from each other that it allowed for Boudin to win with a minority of the votes in a ranked voting system. He decided this than give him a mandate to run with his SJW reformist agenda when really that’s not what the majority of the city was interested in. The recall is the result.

Locally the majority of people really only care about three things at this point, Homelessness, property crime, and building more housing both affordable and otherwise. There was recently a state senate vote for half of the city and the guy who ran his campaign based on those three things crushed the more progressive gay Hispanic candidate from the mission who ran on NIMBYism and anti gentrification. Guy didn’t even win the neighborhood he grew up in.

Thank you for wanting an honest engagement but there is no such thing as a moderate democrat these days. That kind of opinion can get you put into solitary confinement today.

Eh that may or may not be true. I think a lot of people would say the same for republicans, maybe not on this forum but you get my point. I’m just providing my perspective as someone who has lived in SF for a decade and is a democrat who supported the recall, instead of the hot takes you see on MSNBC or Fox News.

There are Republicans that support abortion rights. I know because I am one. There are no Rats who oppose abortion. The party doesn't even allow anyone with that position to speak at the party convention. What qualifies you as a moderate?

 

[SFGbob]

I really hope he explains why he is moderate but given my experience with said moderates I bet he won’t.

 

[Edwin_Bambino]

Exactly. That's why I didn't expect Edwin to explain some pretty basic stuff, like why he would vote for an anti-American anti-free enterprise dementia patient over Trump. Ed likes $6 a gallon gas? Average 30 year mortgage rate just hit 5.2% up from under 3% when the dementia patient got elected. I don't think phucking over working Americans is moderate at all. So, a $300,000 30 year fixed mortgage is $1,265 a month at 3.0% and $1,647 a month at 5.2% or just about $4,600 a year in increased costs for a shitty basic starter home or a small condo. Average home price in Portland is now $550,000. A moderate republican would say build more houses with less regulations. A moderate democrat votes for dems who want no new single residential developments.

All the Ultra Maga's in San Fran did this.

All joking aside, I heard a report a couple months ago how Bay Area Chinese and some Japanese and Koreans were getting political and going "MAGA" because they're disgusted by how the state/city are being run. The report focused on the Chinese saying how they usually don't like to get active politically but things have gotten way out of hand.

Anecdotally this is true, Chinese American highschool kid I tutored in the city and all his buddies have turned pretty MAGA.

But it was incredibly disingenuous the way the Boudin campaign ran their recall election. Only 7 percent of San Franciscans are registered republicans, while there was some conservative outside funding this wasn’t some sinister outside take down. Trump wasn’t flying in to appoint the new DA, London Breed would get to pick a new DA.

People are sick of car break ins, sick of open air drug markets, sick of crazy homeless people running around doing whatever they want, sick of burglaries and package thefts. The Asian American community feels like they aren’t being heard.

I spent the last few years living in Polk Gulch, kind of the intersection of Pac Heights, Nob Hill, with spill over from the tenderloin. I felt like I was gaslighted with the reports that crime is down under Boudin based on what I have witnessed, and anecdotal evidence from my friends. The vast majority of shit never even gets reported. I voted to recall, all of my friends did as well, I guess according to Chesa Boudin supporters I’m no longer a Democrat but whatever.

Breed no longer has a scape goat to hide behind so she better get to fixing or her political ambitions might be blown up next.

Are San Franciscans as besieged with white guilt as Seattleites or Portlanders? If so, SF is fucked, regardless.

The Asian American demographic which is maybe more than a third of the city certainly isn’t. They have more voting power than in Seattle or Portland. The white democratic vote is probably 50/50 between those who would essentially be categorized as the Democratic Socialist / Progressive Sawant type liberals and those like myself who would categorize themselves as more moderate democrats at this point.

Boudin only got like 39 percent of the vote when he won, the two moderate candidates who received more than 50 percent of the vote took enough votes from each other that it allowed for Boudin to win with a minority of the votes in a ranked voting system. He decided this than give him a mandate to run with his SJW reformist agenda when really that’s not what the majority of the city was interested in. The recall is the result.

Locally the majority of people really only care about three things at this point, Homelessness, property crime, and building more housing both affordable and otherwise. There was recently a state senate vote for half of the city and the guy who ran his campaign based on those three things crushed the more progressive gay Hispanic candidate from the mission who ran on NIMBYism and anti gentrification. Guy didn’t even win the neighborhood he grew up in.

Thank you for wanting an honest engagement but there is no such thing as a moderate democrat these days. That kind of opinion can get you put into solitary confinement today.

Eh that may or may not be true. I think a lot of people would say the same for republicans, maybe not on this forum but you get my point. I’m just providing my perspective as someone who has lived in SF for a decade and is a democrat who supported the recall, instead of the hot takes you see on MSNBC or Fox News.

There are Republicans that support abortion rights. I know because I am one. There are no Rats who oppose abortion. The party doesn't even allow anyone with that position to speak at the party convention. What qualifies you as a moderate?

I’m at work, not really trying to debate the perceived differences between a moderate and liberal democrat. If you want to call me a rat commie George Soros loving dem because I voted for Biden over trump feel free.

Once again, I was only really coming through to provide some perspective, whether you agree or disagree is entirely up to you. This forum is very one sided politically so thought you all might find what I have to say as a resident of SF with a different political perspective interesting. Cheers.

 

[WestlinnDuck]

I really hope he explains why he is moderate but given my experience with said moderates I bet he won’t.

That's my take. Hell, Snow wouldn't explain what issues were the decision maker for his vote for the dementia patient. Muttered something about high character and never came back. I've not encountered one self-designated moderate democrat who even tries to explain the decisive issues that make them a proud "moderate". They are proud to use the phrase but embarrassed to try to explain what it means to them? Some of the leftards, like the dazzler, first showed up claiming to be a true conservative. Usually a sign of a weak mind when the use of a description is expected to establish some street cred and thus the start of winning a debate they never actually want to have.

 

[46XiJCAB]

I really hope he explains why he is moderate but given my experience with said moderates I bet he won’t.

That's my take. Hell, Snow wouldn't explain what issues were the decision maker for his vote for the dementia patient. Muttered something about high character and never came back. I've not encountered one self-designated moderate democrat who even tries to explain the decisive issues that make them a proud "moderate". They are proud to use the phrase but embarrassed to try to explain what it means to them? Some of the leftards, like the dazzler, first showed up claiming to be a true conservative. Usually a sign of a weak mind when the use of a description is expected to establish some street cred and thus the start of winning a debate they never actually want to have.

Beat Trump, nothing else mattered. And today we suffer the consequences of voting feelers over prosperity.

 

[WestlinnDuck]

I agree, you just don't like to debate. But you expect me to respect your perspective? Well, I don't. When you are proudly ignorant but you get to vote for a dementia patient that's not a good start. This board is very dominated by some people who actually have some working knowledge of math, science, economics and history. When you can't explain your vote for a dementia patient your surprised that you are being intellectually dominated? Geezus.

Exactly. That's why I didn't expect Edwin to explain some pretty basic stuff, like why he would vote for an anti-American anti-free enterprise dementia patient over Trump. Ed likes $6 a gallon gas? Average 30 year mortgage rate just hit 5.2% up from under 3% when the dementia patient got elected. I don't think phucking over working Americans is moderate at all. So, a $300,000 30 year fixed mortgage is $1,265 a month at 3.0% and $1,647 a month at 5.2% or just about $4,600 a year in increased costs for a shitty basic starter home or a small condo. Average home price in Portland is now $550,000. A moderate republican would say build more houses with less regulations. A moderate democrat votes for dems who want no new single residential developments.

All the Ultra Maga's in San Fran did this.

All joking aside, I heard a report a couple months ago how Bay Area Chinese and some Japanese and Koreans were getting political and going "MAGA" because they're disgusted by how the state/city are being run. The report focused on the Chinese saying how they usually don't like to get active politically but things have gotten way out of hand.

Anecdotally this is true, Chinese American highschool kid I tutored in the city and all his buddies have turned pretty MAGA.

But it was incredibly disingenuous the way the Boudin campaign ran their recall election. Only 7 percent of San Franciscans are registered republicans, while there was some conservative outside funding this wasn’t some sinister outside take down. Trump wasn’t flying in to appoint the new DA, London Breed would get to pick a new DA.

People are sick of car break ins, sick of open air drug markets, sick of crazy homeless people running around doing whatever they want, sick of burglaries and package thefts. The Asian American community feels like they aren’t being heard.

I spent the last few years living in Polk Gulch, kind of the intersection of Pac Heights, Nob Hill, with spill over from the tenderloin. I felt like I was gaslighted with the reports that crime is down under Boudin based on what I have witnessed, and anecdotal evidence from my friends. The vast majority of shit never even gets reported. I voted to recall, all of my friends did as well, I guess according to Chesa Boudin supporters I’m no longer a Democrat but whatever.

Breed no longer has a scape goat to hide behind so she better get to fixing or her political ambitions might be blown up next.

Are San Franciscans as besieged with white guilt as Seattleites or Portlanders? If so, SF is fucked, regardless.

The Asian American demographic which is maybe more than a third of the city certainly isn’t. They have more voting power than in Seattle or Portland. The white democratic vote is probably 50/50 between those who would essentially be categorized as the Democratic Socialist / Progressive Sawant type liberals and those like myself who would categorize themselves as more moderate democrats at this point.

Boudin only got like 39 percent of the vote when he won, the two moderate candidates who received more than 50 percent of the vote took enough votes from each other that it allowed for Boudin to win with a minority of the votes in a ranked voting system. He decided this than give him a mandate to run with his SJW reformist agenda when really that’s not what the majority of the city was interested in. The recall is the result.

Locally the majority of people really only care about three things at this point, Homelessness, property crime, and building more housing both affordable and otherwise. There was recently a state senate vote for half of the city and the guy who ran his campaign based on those three things crushed the more progressive gay Hispanic candidate from the mission who ran on NIMBYism and anti gentrification. Guy didn’t even win the neighborhood he grew up in.

Thank you for wanting an honest engagement but there is no such thing as a moderate democrat these days. That kind of opinion can get you put into solitary confinement today.

Eh that may or may not be true. I think a lot of people would say the same for republicans, maybe not on this forum but you get my point. I’m just providing my perspective as someone who has lived in SF for a decade and is a democrat who supported the recall, instead of the hot takes you see on MSNBC or Fox News.

There are Republicans that support abortion rights. I know because I am one. There are no Rats who oppose abortion. The party doesn't even allow anyone with that position to speak at the party convention. What qualifies you as a moderate?

I’m at work, not really trying to debate the perceived differences between a moderate and liberal democrat. If you want to call me a rat commie George Soros loving dem because I voted for Biden over trump feel free.

Once again, I was only really coming through to provide some perspective, whether you agree or disagree is entirely up to you. This forum is very one sided politically so thought you all might find what I have to say as a resident of SF with a different political perspective interesting. Cheers.

 

[TurdBomber]

All the Ultra Maga's in San Fran did this.

All joking aside, I heard a report a couple months ago how Bay Area Chinese and some Japanese and Koreans were getting political and going "MAGA" because they're disgusted by how the state/city are being run. The report focused on the Chinese saying how they usually don't like to get active politically but things have gotten way out of hand.

Anecdotally this is true, Chinese American highschool kid I tutored in the city and all his buddies have turned pretty MAGA.

But it was incredibly disingenuous the way the Boudin campaign ran their recall election. Only 7 percent of San Franciscans are registered republicans, while there was some conservative outside funding this wasn’t some sinister outside take down. Trump wasn’t flying in to appoint the new DA, London Breed would get to pick a new DA.

People are sick of car break ins, sick of open air drug markets, sick of crazy homeless people running around doing whatever they want, sick of burglaries and package thefts. The Asian American community feels like they aren’t being heard.

I spent the last few years living in Polk Gulch, kind of the intersection of Pac Heights, Nob Hill, with spill over from the tenderloin. I felt like I was gaslighted with the reports that crime is down under Boudin based on what I have witnessed, and anecdotal evidence from my friends. The vast majority of shit never even gets reported. I voted to recall, all of my friends did as well, I guess according to Chesa Boudin supporters I’m no longer a Democrat but whatever.

Breed no longer has a scape goat to hide behind so she better get to fixing or her political ambitions might be blown up next.

Are San Franciscans as besieged with white guilt as Seattleites or Portlanders? If so, SF is fucked, regardless.

The Asian American demographic which is maybe more than a third of the city certainly isn’t. They have more voting power than in Seattle or Portland. The white democratic vote is probably 50/50 between those who would essentially be categorized as the Democratic Socialist / Progressive Sawant type liberals and those like myself who would categorize themselves as more moderate democrats at this point.

Boudin only got like 39 percent of the vote when he won, the two moderate candidates who received more than 50 percent of the vote took enough votes from each other that it allowed for Boudin to win with a minority of the votes in a ranked voting system. He decided this than give him a mandate to run with his SJW reformist agenda when really that’s not what the majority of the city was interested in. The recall is the result.

Locally the majority of people really only care about three things at this point, Homelessness, property crime, and building more housing both affordable and otherwise. There was recently a state senate vote for half of the city and the guy who ran his campaign based on those three things crushed the more progressive gay Hispanic candidate from the mission who ran on NIMBYism and anti gentrification. Guy didn’t even win the neighborhood he grew up in.

SF was our perfect 3 or 4 day getaway for decades. Many, many great times there. I really miss it. But it honestly started going downhill, despite all the tech money, when the City gave away the farm to Twitter, IMO. I'd rather have the city dominated by gays, vs. the tech bros. The gays have far better taste.

 

[SFGbob]

Exactly. That's why I didn't expect Edwin to explain some pretty basic stuff, like why he would vote for an anti-American anti-free enterprise dementia patient over Trump. Ed likes $6 a gallon gas? Average 30 year mortgage rate just hit 5.2% up from under 3% when the dementia patient got elected. I don't think phucking over working Americans is moderate at all. So, a $300,000 30 year fixed mortgage is $1,265 a month at 3.0% and $1,647 a month at 5.2% or just about $4,600 a year in increased costs for a shitty basic starter home or a small condo. Average home price in Portland is now $550,000. A moderate republican would say build more houses with less regulations. A moderate democrat votes for dems who want no new single residential developments.

All the Ultra Maga's in San Fran did this.

All joking aside, I heard a report a couple months ago how Bay Area Chinese and some Japanese and Koreans were getting political and going "MAGA" because they're disgusted by how the state/city are being run. The report focused on the Chinese saying how they usually don't like to get active politically but things have gotten way out of hand.

Anecdotally this is true, Chinese American highschool kid I tutored in the city and all his buddies have turned pretty MAGA.

But it was incredibly disingenuous the way the Boudin campaign ran their recall election. Only 7 percent of San Franciscans are registered republicans, while there was some conservative outside funding this wasn’t some sinister outside take down. Trump wasn’t flying in to appoint the new DA, London Breed would get to pick a new DA.

People are sick of car break ins, sick of open air drug markets, sick of crazy homeless people running around doing whatever they want, sick of burglaries and package thefts. The Asian American community feels like they aren’t being heard.

I spent the last few years living in Polk Gulch, kind of the intersection of Pac Heights, Nob Hill, with spill over from the tenderloin. I felt like I was gaslighted with the reports that crime is down under Boudin based on what I have witnessed, and anecdotal evidence from my friends. The vast majority of shit never even gets reported. I voted to recall, all of my friends did as well, I guess according to Chesa Boudin supporters I’m no longer a Democrat but whatever.

Breed no longer has a scape goat to hide behind so she better get to fixing or her political ambitions might be blown up next.

Are San Franciscans as besieged with white guilt as Seattleites or Portlanders? If so, SF is fucked, regardless.

The Asian American demographic which is maybe more than a third of the city certainly isn’t. They have more voting power than in Seattle or Portland. The white democratic vote is probably 50/50 between those who would essentially be categorized as the Democratic Socialist / Progressive Sawant type liberals and those like myself who would categorize themselves as more moderate democrats at this point.

Boudin only got like 39 percent of the vote when he won, the two moderate candidates who received more than 50 percent of the vote took enough votes from each other that it allowed for Boudin to win with a minority of the votes in a ranked voting system. He decided this than give him a mandate to run with his SJW reformist agenda when really that’s not what the majority of the city was interested in. The recall is the result.

Locally the majority of people really only care about three things at this point, Homelessness, property crime, and building more housing both affordable and otherwise. There was recently a state senate vote for half of the city and the guy who ran his campaign based on those three things crushed the more progressive gay Hispanic candidate from the mission who ran on NIMBYism and anti gentrification. Guy didn’t even win the neighborhood he grew up in.

Thank you for wanting an honest engagement but there is no such thing as a moderate democrat these days. That kind of opinion can get you put into solitary confinement today.

Eh that may or may not be true. I think a lot of people would say the same for republicans, maybe not on this forum but you get my point. I’m just providing my perspective as someone who has lived in SF for a decade and is a democrat who supported the recall, instead of the hot takes you see on MSNBC or Fox News.

There are Republicans that support abortion rights. I know because I am one. There are no Rats who oppose abortion. The party doesn't even allow anyone with that position to speak at the party convention. What qualifies you as a moderate?

I’m at work, not really trying to debate the perceived differences between a moderate and liberal democrat. If you want to call me a rat commie George Soros loving dem because I voted for Biden over trump feel free.

Once again, I was only really coming through to provide some perspective, whether you agree or disagree is entirely up to you. This forum is very one sided politically so thought you all might find what I have to say as a resident of SF with a different political perspective interesting. Cheers.

So you can't tell us or you won't tell us what makes you a moderate. Okay. Nobody is calling you a rat commie. I just really wanted to know in your mind what makes you a moderate. As far as your perspective on Chesa, you and I appear to be in some agreement. Hey, maybe I'm a moderate.