Does Vanilla do any Beta Testing?

[haie]

I will say that their new framework performs better than the old one if you're on a laptop with 32 gigs of ram.

 

[Fire_Marshall_Bill]

The old ESPN boreds in 2003 had a better layout…

 

[haie]

Not bad on a shitty chromebook as well.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

You can't sit on old web frameworks forever. They get too expensive to maintain and you fall behind security standards quickly. If your customer base is enterprise you simply can't stay on old shit forever.
The fact that they built a new platform that looks and works bad on mobile is their own unique fuckup that they did all by themselves.

I understand not sitting on an old framework but man, are they incapable of coding a new one that exceeds the quality of a message board from 1998?
At this point it reminds me of scouring old user hosted boards that were DIY built by someone like Derek himself.

 

[Blueduck]

Fyi ...to the mods or the powers that be at HH, I figured out how to reply to the thread but I have to refresh the page every time and there is no option that I can find to "quote" a particular members poast from my mobile device.
Not a fan of this new format if anyone is taking notes. Carry on

Yes I am in constant contact with Vanilla throughout this. Thank you for your feedback

+5

 

[haie]

@UW_Doog_Bot no defense from me. It's unacceptable. It's like the whole "message board from your phone" concept was not considered by their product people at all.

 

[pawz]

@UW_Doog_Bot no defense from me. It's unacceptable. It's like the whole "message board from your phone" concept was not considered by their product people at all.

Clearly dev’d by people who have no interest in - let alone use regularly - message board function and what might be actually important to an end-user. It’s really inexcusable.

And for the record, this isn’t on DJ.

This is 100% Vanilla fuckery. Trying to save a buck somewhere at end-users expense. An expense so unusable it will drive that end-user to different platforms. For shame.

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[UW_Doog_Bot]

It strikes me this is a combination of over embrace of Agile "change for change sake" we'll break it and put it back if we have to, shitty foreign and/or inexperienced devs, and your typical lazy/absent product manager.
Jesus the industry is screwed up anymore. At least if you're actually competent you can probably make a killing.

 

[thechatch]

stopping by to say that this new UE is absolutely miserable

 

[haie]

The issue is that they thought they could just make a hybrid app and go after some new kind of customer while their current base and site just magically conform to mobile's "good enough" to not piss people off. That is the general strategy. You build one app and it works on everything, but there's still costs to that.
The problem is that in practice those apps do not magically conform to mobile well. They give you a terrible thing in mobile and an acceptable thing on every other viewport.