sonics1993
New Fish
Very true. Those stars are like crack to me.
DeBoner > Campbell
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Very true. Those stars are like crack to me.
MikeDamone
Active poster
Poor UW. Who would come here?
Meanwhile USC has sucked for years and hired Riley. Go fuck yourself. Loser
sonics1993
New Fish
He's pissed that we didn't land Matt. We went all-in on him and it sucks that we got rejected.
AtomicDawg
New Fish
Pete was never impressed with their stars.
[/QUOTE]They aren't retarded, they are special needs.[/i][/b][/QUOTE]
Now that's pretty funny. I have to hand it to you. You tolerate unjustified insults and attacks better than most.
I'm irritated with the anti-DeBoer crowd and that's kind of stupid. This, to me, is a way bolder move than hiring someone who has proven a little more, but who already appears to have a 2nd-3rd place in the league ceiling (all of the other candidates mentioned so far fit this in my mind, even Wilcox). They are all the same. The only stand out guy who seemed to be in the picture for a while was Bob Stoops. If he was interested and they cheaped out then I'm pissed about that. Otherwise I consider DeBoer to be a bolder and better decision than any of the others.
I don't know what the deal is with Tedford, whether he's part of this or not, but people forget that he was a great recruiter at Cal, at least early on. He owned UW in recruiting and had Cal classes ranked right up there with SC for a time. He may be too unhealthy to be an on the road recruiter but he knows the game, surely has contacts etc, and apparently relates well to recruits and players. He would be an asset, I think.
Now that's pretty funny. I have to hand it to you. You tolerate unjustified insults and attacks better than most.
I'm irritated with the anti-DeBoer crowd and that's kind of stupid. This, to me, is a way bolder move than hiring someone who has proven a little more, but who already appears to have a 2nd-3rd place in the league ceiling (all of the other candidates mentioned so far fit this in my mind, even Wilcox). They are all the same. The only stand out guy who seemed to be in the picture for a while was Bob Stoops. If he was interested and they cheaped out then I'm pissed about that. Otherwise I consider DeBoer to be a bolder and better decision than any of the others.
I don't know what the deal is with Tedford, whether he's part of this or not, but people forget that he was a great recruiter at Cal, at least early on. He owned UW in recruiting and had Cal classes ranked right up there with SC for a time. He may be too unhealthy to be an on the road recruiter but he knows the game, surely has contacts etc, and apparently relates well to recruits and players. He would be an asset, I think.
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sonics1993
New Fish
Sounds like he's staying at ISU but not certain what his plans are.
Fishpo31
Active poster
They aren't retarded, they are special needs.[/i][/b][/QUOTE]
Now that's pretty funny. I have to hand it to you. You tolerate unjustified insults and attacks better than most.
I'm irritated with the anti-DeBoer crowd and that's kind of stupid. This, to me, is a way bolder move than hiring someone who has proven a little more, but who already appears to have a 2nd-3rd place in the league ceiling (all of the other candidates mentioned so far fit this in my mind, even Wilcox). They are all the same. The only stand out guy who seemed to be in the picture for a while was Bob Stoops. If he was interested and they cheaped out then I'm pissed about that. Otherwise I consider DeBoer to be a bolder and better decision than any of the others.
I don't know what the deal is with Tedford, whether he's part of this or not, but people forget that he was a great recruiter at Cal, at least early on. He owned UW in recruiting and had Cal classes ranked right up there with SC for a time. He may be too unhealthy to be an on the road recruiter but he knows the game, surely has contacts etc, and apparently relates well to recruits and players. He would be an asset, I think.[/QUOTE]
I don't know how many top end P5 coaches are on the road a lot...they go to see the top kids, and the assistants bring the rest to them. Too lazy to look it up, but when Tedford was kicking ass in recruiting, I wouldn't be surprised if it was when Tosh was there...get some assistants that can recruit, and close them...
Now that's pretty funny. I have to hand it to you. You tolerate unjustified insults and attacks better than most.
I'm irritated with the anti-DeBoer crowd and that's kind of stupid. This, to me, is a way bolder move than hiring someone who has proven a little more, but who already appears to have a 2nd-3rd place in the league ceiling (all of the other candidates mentioned so far fit this in my mind, even Wilcox). They are all the same. The only stand out guy who seemed to be in the picture for a while was Bob Stoops. If he was interested and they cheaped out then I'm pissed about that. Otherwise I consider DeBoer to be a bolder and better decision than any of the others.
I don't know what the deal is with Tedford, whether he's part of this or not, but people forget that he was a great recruiter at Cal, at least early on. He owned UW in recruiting and had Cal classes ranked right up there with SC for a time. He may be too unhealthy to be an on the road recruiter but he knows the game, surely has contacts etc, and apparently relates well to recruits and players. He would be an asset, I think.[/QUOTE]
I don't know how many top end P5 coaches are on the road a lot...they go to see the top kids, and the assistants bring the rest to them. Too lazy to look it up, but when Tedford was kicking ass in recruiting, I wouldn't be surprised if it was when Tosh was there...get some assistants that can recruit, and close them...
sonics1993
New Fish
Now that's pretty funny. I have to hand it to you. You tolerate unjustified insults and attacks better than most.
I'm irritated with the anti-DeBoer crowd and that's kind of stupid. This, to me, is a way bolder move than hiring someone who has proven a little more, but who already appears to have a 2nd-3rd place in the league ceiling (all of the other candidates mentioned so far fit this in my mind, even Wilcox). They are all the same. The only stand out guy who seemed to be in the picture for a while was Bob Stoops. If he was interested and they cheaped out then I'm pissed about that. Otherwise I consider DeBoer to be a bolder and better decision than any of the others.
I don't know what the deal is with Tedford, whether he's part of this or not, but people forget that he was a great recruiter at Cal, at least early on. He owned UW in recruiting and had Cal classes ranked right up there with SC for a time. He may be too unhealthy to be an on the road recruiter but he knows the game, surely has contacts etc, and apparently relates well to recruits and players. He would be an asset, I think.[/QUOTE][/b]
I get it. I got my hopes up when I shouldn't have. After seeing the debacle that Friday night's game, I wanted a proven coach like Matt, who has built a program up to take over. Kalen has an impressive resume as an OC but a thin resume as a head coach, making it a big gamble that I was hoping to avoid. He might work out, but the success rate on Mountain West coaches is low for a reason. They do the same things they did in the Mountain West, which won't work. But maybe that's where Tedford comes in and steers him in the right direction. Like I said before, I'm being an asshole and should LIPO. His staff hirings should be interesting.
I'm irritated with the anti-DeBoer crowd and that's kind of stupid. This, to me, is a way bolder move than hiring someone who has proven a little more, but who already appears to have a 2nd-3rd place in the league ceiling (all of the other candidates mentioned so far fit this in my mind, even Wilcox). They are all the same. The only stand out guy who seemed to be in the picture for a while was Bob Stoops. If he was interested and they cheaped out then I'm pissed about that. Otherwise I consider DeBoer to be a bolder and better decision than any of the others.
I don't know what the deal is with Tedford, whether he's part of this or not, but people forget that he was a great recruiter at Cal, at least early on. He owned UW in recruiting and had Cal classes ranked right up there with SC for a time. He may be too unhealthy to be an on the road recruiter but he knows the game, surely has contacts etc, and apparently relates well to recruits and players. He would be an asset, I think.[/QUOTE][/b]
I get it. I got my hopes up when I shouldn't have. After seeing the debacle that Friday night's game, I wanted a proven coach like Matt, who has built a program up to take over. Kalen has an impressive resume as an OC but a thin resume as a head coach, making it a big gamble that I was hoping to avoid. He might work out, but the success rate on Mountain West coaches is low for a reason. They do the same things they did in the Mountain West, which won't work. But maybe that's where Tedford comes in and steers him in the right direction. Like I said before, I'm being an asshole and should LIPO. His staff hirings should be interesting.
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Mad_Son
New Fish
What plans does he need? He makes enough money he could quit whenever he wanted and he and his family will be set for life. He is already an ISU legend and runs a program he made with his own two hands and likely cares about deeply. If he came to UW at double or triple the salary he would have to win instantly and possibly be fired in two or three years at which point he is a fired retread. The only thing UW could offer is national title aspirations since that will be a tall order at ISU. If he doesn't care about winning a national championship I'm not sure there is anytime anyone could offer him.
Agree. The guy might just like the lifestyle of where he's at.
If a company in California offered me a 50% bump I would turn them down because it's California. Texas, different story. Point is, the guy is already making generational wealth where he's at. Money isn't the primary thing for some people if they're already making big money. I think he leaves ISU when a bigfer, Midwest job comes calling. Shit, he could be the next coach at Oklahoma.
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I don't know how many top end P5 coaches are on the road a lot...they go to see the top kids, and the assistants bring the rest to them. Too lazy to look it up, but when Tedford was kicking ass in recruiting, I wouldn't be surprised if it was when Tosh was there...get some assistants that can recruit, and close them...[/i][/b]
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I sure fucked up the quote feature didn't I? Christ.
I don't know for sure but don't think Tosh was there at the start. Tedford came in and started snagging guys that were thought to be near locks to RN and UW in his first cycle. There was stuff all over the doogman and other pac 10 boards about what a good in-home recruiter and closer he was already. I think he burned out and that had as much to do with their drop off than losing Tosh did. I know Lupoi had an iron grip on certain players, like Shaq Thompson, but he wasn't much of a recruiting boost for Sark. He failed in a big way on some guys that should have been near locks to UW.
I don't know how many top end P5 coaches are on the road a lot...they go to see the top kids, and the assistants bring the rest to them. Too lazy to look it up, but when Tedford was kicking ass in recruiting, I wouldn't be surprised if it was when Tosh was there...get some assistants that can recruit, and close them...[/i][/b]
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I sure fucked up the quote feature didn't I? Christ.
I don't know for sure but don't think Tosh was there at the start. Tedford came in and started snagging guys that were thought to be near locks to RN and UW in his first cycle. There was stuff all over the doogman and other pac 10 boards about what a good in-home recruiter and closer he was already. I think he burned out and that had as much to do with their drop off than losing Tosh did. I know Lupoi had an iron grip on certain players, like Shaq Thompson, but he wasn't much of a recruiting boost for Sark. He failed in a big way on some guys that should have been near locks to UW.
Thebourbinator
New Fish
Curious if Malloe is given the opportunity to stay
Thebourbinator
New Fish
Not sure it was his call to dial up the 3 man against WSU because “it worked in the past…” I still trust in Malloe.
Clean house. They all suck. Did he not watch that abomination of a season? Malloe's unit was pathetic and arguably the weakest and most disappointing unit on the defense.
Another thing I don't understand is the way people cling to assistants, especially assistants who were part of the epic collapse we just saw.
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