DeBoer is the best fit for the current O skill guys

[backthepack]

It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

I'm surprised at how much some of you value fairly uneven or middling results at a power five school.

I'm not talking about head coaching experience at a power five; I am talking about being a coordinator or position coach. You won't be prepared until you know the BS you have to put up with and the time and energy needed to recruit at a high level.

I understand that and am sure you're right. I'm of the opinion, though, that people who excel tend to excel at every level (like what DNC just posted). The same brains and drive that lead to 67-3 translate to the next level. That's the theory.

There’s a big fucking difference in recruiting.

 

[backthepack]

It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

Jen’s a fucking retard. I can't believe they let her make this hire. Deboer over a proven recruiter? Nice going tits. Yeah save your recruiting doesn't matter bullshit boomers.

 

[insinceredawg]

He’s not going to recruit. Nasty hire.

*Takes screenshot

 

[AtomicDawg]

It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

Jen’s a fucking retard. I can't believe they let her make this hire. Deboer over a proven recruiter? Nice going tits. Yeah save your recruiting doesn't matter bullshit boomers.

Who was the proven recruiter you are referring to?

 

[backthepack]

It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

Jen’s a fucking retard. I can't believe they let her make this hire. Deboer over a proven recruiter? Nice going tits. Yeah save your recruiting doesn't matter bullshit boomers.

Who was the proven recruiter you are referring to?

Hafley.

 

[BleachedAnusDawg]

It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

Jen’s a fucking retard. I can't believe they let her make this hire. Deboer over a proven recruiter? Nice going tits. Yeah save your recruiting doesn't matter bullshit boomers.

Who was the proven recruiter you are referring to?

Hafley.

Two blistering 6 - 5 seasons at BC and 2 - 5 in the shitty ACC this year. I would rather have Wilcox.

 

[AtomicDawg]

It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

Jen’s a fucking retard. I can't believe they let her make this hire. Deboer over a proven recruiter? Nice going tits. Yeah save your recruiting doesn't matter bullshit boomers.

Who was the proven recruiter you are referring to?

Hafley.

Can he coach though? They kind of suck this year as i have watched them play a few times. As always It’s a crapshoot.

 

[doogville]

It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

Jen’s a fucking retard. I can't believe they let her make this hire. Deboer over a proven recruiter? Nice going tits. Yeah save your recruiting doesn't matter bullshit boomers.

Who was the proven recruiter you are referring to?

Hafley.

Two blistering 6 - 5 seasons at BC and 2 - 5 in the shitty ACC this year. I would rather have Wilcox.

QB injured week two. Hafley isn’t a proven thing yet, but has a high ceiling. DC of the year while at Ohio state. He’s what doogs think Wilcox is.

Wilcox, on the other hand, is a proven loser with no upside,

 

[FremontTroll]

It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

Jen’s a fucking retard. I can't believe they let her make this hire. Deboer over a proven recruiter? Nice going tits. Yeah save your recruiting doesn't matter bullshit boomers.

Who was the proven recruiter you are referring to?

Hafley.

Two blistering 6 - 5 seasons at BC and 2 - 5 in the shitty ACC this year. I would rather have Wilcox.

QB injured week two. Hafley isn’t a proven thing yet, but has a high ceiling. DC of the year while at Ohio state. [/b]He’s what doogs think Wilcox is.

Wilcox, on the other hand, is a proven loser with no upside,

According to who?

Hafley was only at OSU for one year anyway during which he had co-dc title with Mattison.

 

[AtomicDawg]

It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

Jen’s a fucking retard. I can't believe they let her make this hire. Deboer over a proven recruiter? Nice going tits. Yeah save your recruiting doesn't matter bullshit boomers.

Who was the proven recruiter you are referring to?

Hafley.

Two blistering 6 - 5 seasons at BC and 2 - 5 in the shitty ACC this year. I would rather have Wilcox.

QB injured week two. Hafley isn’t a proven thing yet, but has a high ceiling. DC of the year while at Ohio state. He’s what doogs think Wilcox is.

Wilcox, on the other hand, is a proven loser with no upside,

The qb injury is the myth the pro Wilcox crowd likes to promote as well for his magical 2019 season that never was. You are allowed to recruit an develop back up qb’s. Some of these coaches will be good. Most will suck. Recruiting is important, but that can bought with assistants also to an extent. As always timely firing is the most important factor when you know they suck.

 

[backthepack]

It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

Jen’s a fucking retard. I can't believe they let her make this hire. Deboer over a proven recruiter? Nice going tits. Yeah save your recruiting doesn't matter bullshit boomers.

Who was the proven recruiter you are referring to?

Hafley.

Two blistering 6 - 5 seasons at BC and 2 - 5 in the shitty ACC this year. I would rather have Wilcox.

Their starting QB got hurt for 6 games. He actually has coaching connections to create a good staff at UW because he’s actually coached at real programs.

 

[backthepack]

He’s not going to recruit. Nasty hire.

*Takes screenshot

I hope I'm wrong btw but like...

 

[BleachedAnusDawg]

It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

Jen’s a fucking retard. I can't believe they let her make this hire. Deboer over a proven recruiter? Nice going tits. Yeah save your recruiting doesn't matter bullshit boomers.

Who was the proven recruiter you are referring to?

Hafley.

Two blistering 6 - 5 seasons at BC and 2 - 5 in the shitty ACC this year. I would rather have Wilcox.

Their starting QB got hurt for 6 games. He actually has coaching connections to create a good staff at UW because he’s actually coached at real programs.

I've seen plenty of teams win with backups.

His class this year has two 4-stars. I don't follow recruiting that closely, but I'm old enough to remember recruiting being used as a reason to promote Lake. I'll take a good coach, first, and trust they will fill out their assistant spots appropriately.

 

[insinceredawg]

Any chance Tedford joins his staff?

@sonics1993 do you see this as a realistic scenario?https://twitter.com/coker_UDub/status/1464342579974066178?t=WnZNyb0-G8sheeKX-PhtEw&s=19

 

[backthepack]

Any chance Tedford joins his staff?

@sonics1993 do you see this as a realistic scenario?https://twitter.com/coker_UDub/status/1464342579974066178?t=WnZNyb0-G8sheeKX-PhtEw&s=19

If that’s the case i’ll be fine with it then.

 

[FremontTroll]

He’s not going to recruit. Nasty hire.

*Takes screenshot

I hope I'm wrong btw but like... View attachment 45601

How does anyone evaluate mountain west recruiting based on stars? Nobody is getting any 4 or 5 stars so it’s all a fucking crapshoot isn’t it?

 

[doogville]

It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

Jen’s a fucking retard. I can't believe they let her make this hire. Deboer over a proven recruiter? Nice going tits. Yeah save your recruiting doesn't matter bullshit boomers.

Who was the proven recruiter you are referring to?

Hafley.

Two blistering 6 - 5 seasons at BC and 2 - 5 in the shitty ACC this year. I would rather have Wilcox.

QB injured week two. Hafley isn’t a proven thing yet, but has a high ceiling. DC of the year while at Ohio state. [/b]He’s what doogs think Wilcox is.

Wilcox, on the other hand, is a proven loser with no upside,

According to who?

Hafley was only at OSU for one year anyway during which he had co-dc title with Mattison.

KOMO 4.

And also:https://247sports.com/Article/Jeff-Hafley-Ohio-State-football-defensive-coordinator--140229946/

Hafley is a rising star. You may not love him and he’s almost certainly not coming to UW, but his resume is impressive.

 

[RaceBannon]

Any chance Tedford joins his staff?

@sonics1993 do you see this as a realistic scenario?https://twitter.com/coker_UDub/status/1464342579974066178?t=WnZNyb0-G8sheeKX-PhtEw&s=19

I like this too

 

[digits]

- Hafley's first class in 2021, Boston College went from #62 in 2020 to #37 in 2021, an improvement of 25 spots, avg. player rating of 85; they're #26 for 2022 class
- DeBoer first class in 2021, Fresno St went from #101 in 2020 to #72 in 2021, an improvement of 29 spots, avg. player rating of 84; they're #86 for 2022 class

I'm not seeing a huge difference, especially considering Boston College is P5 and Fresno St is not. Then again, I'm not a TBSer.

 

[FremontTroll]

- Hafley's first class in 2021, Boston College went from #62 in 2020 to #37 in 2021, an improvement of 25 spots, avg. player rating of 85; they're #26 for 2022 class
- DeBoer first class in 2021, Fresno St went from #101 in 2020 to #72 in 2021, an improvement of 29 spots, avg. player rating of 84; they're #86 for 2022 class

I'm not seeing a huge difference, especially considering Boston College is P5 and Fresno St is not. Then again, I'm not a TBSer.

This is some bad statistics/math usage.

The difference between the 87 and 101 classes is negligible.

Every spot you move up in the rankings is more significant ie the biggest gap is between 1 and 2 then 2 and 3 and so on.

ATBS if you like stars Hafley has a full class for 2022 and only two four stars. So he will probably end up around 40ish.