DeBoer HC/Tedford OC

@sonics1993 I don’t know even the ins and outs of the program like you do. It’s not even close. I know next to nothing about anything inside the program. I am fully aware how important recruiting is, but it’s not the end all be all like you believe.
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Totally agree it's not everything, but I have seen how these Mountain West coaches operate when they get to the Pac-12, and they try to do the same thing they did in the mountain west, which is why most fail. I'm being an asshole and should LIPO. His staff hirings should tell me a lot, but I was hoping for a more proven coach to be hired. To me, this is just as big of a gamble as hiring Jimmy.
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We are doomed to fail if we try to beat Oregon at Oregon’s game. We aren’t going to consistently pull top 5 recruiting classes (and then fail to develop anyone).

Lots of ways to win - but we had a winning formula with pulling top-15 classes and then actually developing players. I’m a bit concerned about recruiting, but 90% of it is just effort, and that’s it. If the staff puts in the effort, they’ll be fine. Plus, recruiting is transactional now, and if we finally figured out NIL with Montlake Futures, we are good.
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One of my biggest concerns besides recruiting is he's never built a program. This job is a rebuild, as we all saw Friday night. He took over a successful team at the NAIA level and then took over a team with Tedford recruits and had one decent year (Yes, nine wins at the MW level is decent to me). That's a good resume for WSU or Arizona, but it shouldn't be good enough for Washington.
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The year before DeBoer was hired, Fresno St. went 4-8 in 2019, obviously, the same record we? have now. He didn't inherit a winning program.
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Three years before he took over as head coach, 10-4, 12-2, and then 4-8 where Jeff had health problems pop up. It was a winning program. He goes 3-3 his first year and then 9-3 his second year. I would like to see what his record is when he has to bring in his own recruits before giving him the job.
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You know who wasn’t there for the 4-8 season but was there the two successful years prior?

How is Indiana doing on offense without him?
 
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@sonics1993 I don’t know even the ins and outs of the program like you do. It’s not even close. I know next to nothing about anything inside the program. I am fully aware how important recruiting is, but it’s not the end all be all like you believe.
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Totally agree it's not everything, but I have seen how these Mountain West coaches operate when they get to the Pac-12, and they try to do the same thing they did in the mountain west, which is why most fail. I'm being an asshole and should LIPO. His staff hirings should tell me a lot, but I was hoping for a more proven coach to be hired. To me, this is just as big of a gamble as hiring Jimmy.
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We are doomed to fail if we try to beat Oregon at Oregon’s game. We aren’t going to consistently pull top 5 recruiting classes (and then fail to develop anyone).

Lots of ways to win - but we had a winning formula with pulling top-15 classes and then actually developing players. I’m a bit concerned about recruiting, but 90% of it is just effort, and that’s it. If the staff puts in the effort, they’ll be fine. Plus, recruiting is transactional now, and if we finally figured out NIL with Montlake Futures, we are good.
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One of my biggest concerns besides recruiting is he's never built a program. This job is a rebuild, as we all saw Friday night. He took over a successful team at the NAIA level and then took over a team with Tedford recruits and had one decent year (Yes, nine wins at the MW level is decent to me). That's a good resume for WSU or Arizona, but it shouldn't be good enough for Washington.
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The year before DeBoer was hired, Fresno St. went 4-8 in 2019, obviously, the same record we? have now. He didn't inherit a winning program.
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Three years before he took over as head coach, 10-4, 12-2, and then 4-8 where Jeff had health problems pop up. It was a winning program. He goes 3-3 his first year and then 9-3 his second year. I would like to see what his record is when he has to bring in his own recruits before giving him the job.
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You know who wasn’t there for the 4-8 season but was there the two successful years prior?

How is Indiana doing on offense without him?
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They actually did well in 2020 ranking fourth in the Big Ten in PPG but fell off this year. I'm not saying he's not a great coordinator but as a head coach, I was hoping for more of a proven commodity.
 
We’re so fucked.
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Meanwhile USC hits a grand slam. Leave it to TheFatLesboSchool to continue their FatLesboSchool ways.

Good luck the rest of the way.
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They hate you because it’s true
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Nobody hates him or wanting a bigger name in the eyes of the media.

Shit is all a crap shoot. Pete was burned out before even accepting the UW job. Started at 8-6, finished at 8-5.

Go back to your finger paintings with the rest of the quooks.
 
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If DeBoer cant convince Haener to follow him to UW to be the starting QB zero chance he regularly wins recruiting battles against Riley, Oregons NIL program, or other academically prowessed programs.
 
Players seem to think it’s Campbell, if it’s DeBoer that’s going to be disappointing for them and probably not be good for the portal odds.
 
@backthepack gets it.
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We hired a fucking coach who got skull dragged by Todd Graham and Andy Avalos.
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You want a coach who went 2-6 in conference with a team that won a NY6 last year and returned 20 starters.
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It's almost like putting stock in the Covid season is meaningless. I mean Jimmy won the North (hang the banner Jen)
 
Players seem to think it’s Campbell[/b], if it’s DeBoer that’s going to be disappointing for them and probably not be good for the portal odds.
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Which players? There's a thread on this on Dawgman too but I haven't seen anything on the Twittersphere.
 
Who else could we? have gotten? Campbell doesn’t seem light years ahead and if Florida hired Napier who are we kidding? I’m going with he’s better than Lake for now.
 
Players seem to think it’s Campbell[/b], if it’s DeBoer that’s going to be disappointing for them and probably not be good for the portal odds.
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Which players? There's a thread on this on Dawgman too but I haven't seen anything on the Twittersphere.
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Players have told other students at UW that it is Campbell. Sounds like a game of telephone, but maybe some hope for Campbell.
 
Players seem to think it’s Campbell[/b], if it’s DeBoer that’s going to be disappointing for them and probably not be good for the portal odds.
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Which players? There's a thread on this on Dawgman too but I haven't seen anything on the Twittersphere.
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Players have told other students at UW that it is Campbell. Sounds like a game of telephone, but maybe some hope for Campbell.
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Academic Prowess right there.

 
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I like how some of the experts in here who are pissed about the likes of Campbell and DeBoner were spooging recently over the prospects of fucking Kellen Moore.

 
Pm to @swaye. What’s up with the deleted comment?
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I didn't delete anything. Well a few hours ago I deleted one of mine because I realized it was stupid, but that's pretty standard for me. Did you have a comment get deleted? If so, it wasn't me. The very few times I have deleted a comment I always leave a note and a reason why.
 
Pm to @swaye. What’s up with the deleted comment?
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I didn't delete anything. Well a few hours ago I deleted one of mine because I realized it was stupid, but that's pretty standard for me. Did you have a comment get deleted? If so, it wasn't me. The very few times I have deleted a comment I always leave a note and a reason why.
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You @‘d me in the apparent stupid comment.
 
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