Deboer and NIL

Our NIL won't be top of the B1G but Seattle and our base will make it competitive. Jen was just lazy (obvious).

The thing DeBoer complained about was the state laws, which I believe are just some ambiguous "ethics clauses" that are easy to get around with enough effort (again, his girl didn't want to put forth any effort).

So instead like a dumb fuck he flees to Bama which pretty much relied on Nick just flashing his rings to players. DeBoer could have had 1 to show them, but he's a bitch.
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I don't think Saban flashed his rings as much as he flashed how much money his draft picks had made. It was something like $2.6 billion aggregate. That's a legitimate sell to a recruit when you're trying to get an NIL discount, "Hey, you're not going to make as much while you're in school but look what's waiting for you if come here and put in the work." Now? They are running hind tit in the SEC.

Teams with bigger NIL programs than Bama in the SEC right now: Texas, A&M, Georgia, Florida, LSU, Mizzou, Tennessee, and Ole Miss. Probably Oklahoma and Auburn too. All those SEC teams have been looking for an edge on Bama for years, and jumped all over NIL. They are so out in front of Bama right now it's not funny and it's not like the state of Alabama is overrun with captains of industry waiting to unload cash on them. The Phyllis from Mulgas and Pee Wee from Grand Bays of the world, believe it or not, can't sustain a competitive NIL program when Texas has players driving around in Lamborghinis courtesy of the local dealership

I think Deboer is a fine coach, but good luck selling two years at a P5 school and a coaching up a bunch of NAIA scrubs to the blue chip recruits in the south. That isn't going to move the needle when you can freely transfer to play for coaches with a better track record of putting guys into the pros AND get paid more while you're in school. Deboer's assistant hires aren't really moving the needle, either. It's just his South Dakota buddies plus his other buddy from Indiana that took a demotion to be the DC so far. Georgia stealing the DB coach was masterful. Welcome to the SEC, Kalen.
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DeBoer is fucked, he just doesn’t know it yet.
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I think they are getting to the point where they know it. We all knew college football was wild but did anyone think the roster turnover would be this drastic?

We have not a single starter returning on offense right now. Bama is going through the same. Unless a coach is guaranteed a major pay day I am not sure you will see as much jumping around going forward unless there's more regulation on the portal.

The days of Rick or KDB winning with other coaches guys appear to be over. It's full on rebuilds at these places and programs with stability are set to feast on the rosters. What a time to be alive.
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Unless you are Arizona, then you dont give a fuck about football, become a G5 school, lose your entire coaching staff, hire some no name coach, and still somehow hold on to most everyone.
 
NIL was spectacularly behind at UW because Jen for whatever reason was blind to the world CFB was turning into

It’s fine to suggest that the system is broken (and it is) but it is the system … you either adapt or fall off the vine

UW’s NIL has been getting better and the run that we had will help pull in more money going forward

Dannan clearly understands that you have to be NIL competitive if you want to be competitive

Where UW needs to up their game is applying NIL resources to HS recruiting … depending on how this cycle plays itself out and how gutted this roster gets you are likely looking at the largest class in UW history in 2025 out of necessity
 
Not what the players are saying tho. "I think Washington had better NIL than Ohio State," Kienholz said
 
UW’s NIL has been getting better and the run that we had will help pull in more money going forward
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Only if Fishsticks can turn around this turnaround in a hurry. Otherwise the run is going to be wasted with nothing to show for it.
 
UW’s NIL has been getting better and the run that we had will help pull in more money going forward
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Only if Fishsticks can turn around this turnaround in a hurry. Otherwise the run is going to be wasted with nothing to show for it.
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As I told my SEC guy, UW got off easy this time. Normally the Huskies go on probation after a good run
 
People need to understand this …

Fisch inherited a rebuild

The lack of depth in the program is fairly significant

Add in players portaling and the crater that forms if they leave

I think most have been way too high with what things looked like had none of the upheaval happened

Buckle up … time to build this from the ground up
 
UW’s NIL has been getting better and the run that we had will help pull in more money going forward
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Only if Fishsticks can turn around this turnaround in a hurry. Otherwise the run is going to be wasted with nothing to show for it.
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I never asked you if 1-6_1-10 was already taken.
 
People need to understand this …

Fisch inherited a rebuild

The lack of depth in the program is fairly significant

Add in players portaling and the crater that forms if they leave

I think most have been way too high with what things looked like had none of the upheaval happened

Buckle up … time to build this from the ground up
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"People need to understand this"

What part of this board-wide meltdown makes you think people aren't understanding this? It's literally all we're talking about.
 
Dannen has been pretty clear that UW is going to have to do more with less. Less meaning more than most, but not as much as some. I think UW is going after NIL and fundraising enough to secure the potential to win championships, but not throwing tons of money at unproven commodities like Oregon does.

From my cynical vantage point UW does care about football and winning, I believe they offered DeBoer what they felt was appropriate with his experience, but the unknown was recruiting and was he worth that kind of money over that many years? How often do those massive contracts pan out?
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Where has he said that?

We have a HC making 7.5 apy and a staff pool of ~8.5m which is top 7 in the country. We'll be fine. The timing just sucks.
 
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Dannen has been pretty clear that UW is going to have to do more with less. Less meaning more than most, but not as much as some. I think UW is going after NIL and fundraising enough to secure the potential to win championships, but not throwing tons of money at unproven commodities like Oregon does.

From my cynical vantage point UW does care about football and winning, I believe they offered DeBoer what they felt was appropriate with his experience, but the unknown was recruiting and was he worth that kind of money over that many years? How often do those massive contracts pan out?
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Where has he said that?

We have a HC making 7.5 apy and a staff pool of ~8.5m which is top 7 in the country. We'll be fine. The timing just sucks.
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A lot of beach walks needed. Just barely over a week ago *we were getting ready to play the natty game. Since then, all of 9 days, ago, a few small matters have cropped up that are going to take a few weeks to sort themselves out.

Smart money is on a train wreck and owen season according to the board. I'm not that smart. I'm thinking that it's still up in the air. UW made the first step quickly and admirably. LIPO.

One of the last things Deboer said that sort of stuck with me was that the NIL "problem" was no longer a problem. No citation. He said it though so fuck off. UW is a solid destination for player talent and it will be apparent again soon.
 
Dannen has been pretty clear that UW is going to have to do more with less. Less meaning more than most, but not as much as some. I think UW is going after NIL and fundraising enough to secure the potential to win championships, but not throwing tons of money at unproven commodities like Oregon does.

From my cynical vantage point UW does care about football and winning, I believe they offered DeBoer what they felt was appropriate with his experience, but the unknown was recruiting and was he worth that kind of money over that many years? How often do those massive contracts pan out?
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Where has he said that?

We have a HC making 7.5 apy and a staff pool of ~8.5m which is top 7 in the country. We'll be fine. The timing just sucks.
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A lot of beach walks needed. Just barely over a week ago *we were getting ready to play the natty game. Since then, all of 9 days, ago, a few small matters have cropped up that are going to take a few weeks to sort themselves out.

Smart money is on a train wreck and owen season according to the board. I'm not that smart. I'm thinking that it's still up in the air. UW made the first step quickly and admirably. LIPO.

One of the last things Deboer said that sort of stuck with me was that the NIL "problem" was no longer a problem[/b]. No citation. He said it though so fuck off. UW is a solid destination for player talent and it will be apparent again soon.
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Maybe he said that because it was no longer his[/i] problem, since he knew he was going to LEAVE.
 
Alabama doesn’t have an incredible NIL program. Especially compared to the other top dogs in the SEC.
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This is due to their fan base trying to donate prize hogs or letting the players fuck their sisters instead of forking over that meth money.
 
Dannen has been pretty clear that UW is going to have to do more with less. Less meaning more than most, but not as much as some. I think UW is going after NIL and fundraising enough to secure the potential to win championships, but not throwing tons of money at unproven commodities like Oregon does.

From my cynical vantage point UW does care about football and winning, I believe they offered DeBoer what they felt was appropriate with his experience, but the unknown was recruiting and was he worth that kind of money over that many years? How often do those massive contracts pan out?
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Where has he said that?

We have a HC making 7.5 apy and a staff pool of ~8.5m which is top 7 in the country. We'll be fine. The timing just sucks.
Click to expand...

A lot of beach walks needed. Just barely over a week ago *we were getting ready to play the natty game. Since then, all of 9 days, ago, a few small matters have cropped up that are going to take a few weeks to sort themselves out.

Smart money is on a train wreck and owen season according to the board. I'm not that smart. I'm thinking that it's still up in the air. UW made the first step quickly and admirably. LIPO.

One of the last things Deboer said that sort of stuck with me was that the NIL "problem" was no longer a problem[/b]. No citation. He said it though so fuck off. UW is a solid destination for player talent and it will be apparent again soon.
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Maybe he said that because it was no longer his[/i] problem, since he knew he was going to LEAVE.
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People need to understand this …

Fisch inherited a rebuild

The lack of depth in the program is fairly significant

Add in players portaling and the crater that forms if they leave

I think most have been way too high with what things looked like had none of the upheaval happened

Buckle up … time to build this from the ground up
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"People need to understand this"

What part of this board-wide meltdown makes you think people aren't understanding this? It's literally all we're talking about.
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People kept thinking that this program was winning 9 to 10 games next year with a QB that everybody was projecting as Penix (he wasn't) and the same depth gaps on the roster that were never filled in the 2021 and 2022 classes. This idea that they'd just keep adding in the 2nd portal window was more pipe dream than reality as those leaving in that cycle are typically those realizing that they aren't going to play and dropping levels than being people that you want playing at Washington.

2024 for this program is as follows:

- Keep as much talent as possible that has entered the portal and keep (might be able to keep 1/2 to 2/3 of what is in currently at best)

- Get whatever you can from Arizona (most likely going to be those that were in this year's recruiting class and players with multiple years of eligibility vs those with 1 year and the ability to go to the NFL after this year)

- Develop players on this year's roster and give them the opportunity to play and get better over the course of the season to figure out who can and can't be part of the solution going forward

- Recruit like mad and sign what could/should be the largest HS class in the history of UW football

- Attack the portal for the 2025 season

How anybody thinks that this team has a 8-10 win ceiling in 2024 returning 2 starters (at this point) TOTAL by backfilling around the portal is delusional

Enjoy the 2023 journey

Be smart with the money in 2024 and keep the powder relatively dry

Position yourself to be good in 2025 and 2026
 
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