Comprehensive, 25-year list of every Husky football player who truly excelled as a true frosh.

Olin kruetz. Played quite a bit and sideline reporter bill Swartz would always comment " the freshman Kruetz is really moving people around". I asked Lester towns at picture day Before season " who is impressing you". He said " Olin Kruetz, when he gets a hold of you you're going down".
 
I never really had an opinion on @RavennaDawg before now...

Now I think 2 things:

1) Ravenna is a nice neighborhood.
2) @RavennaDawg is a serious butt-hurt presser.
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Play the best players.

Rarely are the existing quarterbacks so bad, or the true frosh so good, that you play the true frosh. But sometimes you do. Chandler was better than Pelleur, but not when Chandler was a true frosh and Pelleur was an rs-sr.. Winston was better than Manuel, but not during Winston's true frosh season. Bledsoe and P Manning were better as true frosh than their alternatives, so they both played.

If Lindquist is the best, you play him. If Browning is the best, you play him. Don't sacrifice wins today for some magical 2019 season, that will only matter Peterman fails to recruit/develop a qb to compete with 2019 Browning, while 2019 Browning is not good enough to turn pro after 4 years.

This obsession some people have with redshirting for the sake of redshirting is weird.
 
How many of those players would have been better in their second year in the program had they spent their first year on the bench and not getting actual game experience?

None.
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Yes, redshirting really seemed to set Lawyer Milloy back.
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You really think he would have been worse in 1993 had he played in 1992? And he left after 4 years.

As good as he was is 1993, I bet if you ask him he will say he would have been even more prepared had he seen the field some in 1992.
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Lotta twisting going on here. Ain't complicated. Redshirting hurts nobody. And it helps a lot of guys.
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Redshirting hurts your team when players leave without playing their redshirt senior seasons.
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I agree. Problem is, at UW anyway, this is nearly as rare as the true frosh who doesn't suck. Neither circumstance occurs frequently enough to outweigh the huge systemic benefits of routinely redshirting guys.
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How many of those players would have been better in their second year in the program had they spent their first year on the bench and not getting actual game experience?

None.
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Yes, redshirting really seemed to set Lawyer Milloy back.
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You really think he would have been worse in 1993 had he played in 1992? And he left after 4 years.

As good as he was is 1993, I bet if you ask him he will say he would have been even more prepared had he seen the field some in 1992.
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Lotta twisting going on here. Ain't complicated. Redshirting hurts nobody. And it helps a lot of guys.
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Redshirting hurts your team when players leave without playing their redshirt senior seasons.
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I agree. Problem is, at UW anyway, this is nearly as rare as the true frosh who doesn't suck. Neither circumstance occurs frequently enough to outweigh the huge systemic benefits of routinely redshirting guys.
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Shaq Thompson, Danny Shelton, Hau'oli Kikaha, and I shared a good laugh together after reading your post.

 
I never really had an opinion on @RavennaDawg before now...

Now I think 2 things:

1) Ravenna is a nice neighborhood.
2) @RavennaDawg is a serious butt-hurt presser.
Click to expand...

Play the best players.

Rarely are the existing quarterbacks so bad, or the true frosh so good, that you play the true frosh. But sometimes you do. Chandler was better than Pelleur, but not when Chandler was a true frosh and Pelleur was an rs-sr.. Winston was better than Manuel, but not during Winston's true frosh season. Bledsoe and P Manning were better as true frosh than their alternatives, so they both played.

If Lindquist is the best, you play him. If Browning is the best, you play him. Don't sacrifice wins today for some magical 2019 season, that will only matter Peterman fails to recruit/develop a qb to compete with 2019 Browning, while 2019 Browning is not good enough to turn pro after 4 years.

This obsession some people have with redshirting for the sake of redshirting is weird.
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Case and point.
 
I never really had an opinion on @RavennaDawg before now...

Now I think 2 things:

1) Ravenna is a nice neighborhood.
2) @RavennaDawg is a serious butt-hurt presser.
Click to expand...

Play the best players.

Rarely are the existing quarterbacks so bad, or the true frosh so good, that you play the true frosh. But sometimes you do. Chandler was better than Pelleur, but not when Chandler was a true frosh and Pelleur was an rs-sr.. Winston was better than Manuel, but not during Winston's true frosh season. Bledsoe and P Manning were better as true frosh than their alternatives, so they both played.

If Lindquist is the best, you play him. If Browning is the best, you play him. Don't sacrifice wins today for some magical 2019 season, that will only matter Peterman fails to recruit/develop a qb to compete with 2019 Browning, while 2019 Browning is not good enough to turn pro after 4 years.

This obsession some people have with redshirting for the sake of redshirting is weird.
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Case and point.
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Yeah, dumb people just make me sad.

I'm sure TTJ is a nice guy in real life, but he was absent from school they day they taught logic.

Go Dawgs!!!
 
Protip for the dumbasses in this thread: true sophomores are better than they would be as redshirt freshmen, true juniors are better than they would as redshirt sophomores, and true seniors are better than they would be as redshirt juniors.
 
Protip for the dumbasses in this thread: true sophomores are better than they would be as redshirt freshmen, true juniors are better than they would as redshirt sophomores, and true seniors are better than they would be as redshirt juniors.
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Citations needed.
 
Protip for the dumbasses in this thread: true sophomores are better than they would be as redshirt freshmen, true juniors are better than they would as redshirt sophomores, and true seniors are better than they would be as redshirt juniors.
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Citations needed.
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Shaq Thompson, Danny Shelton, Hau'oli Kikaha, and I shared a good laugh together after reading your post.
 
Protip for the dumbasses in this thread: true sophomores are better than they would be as redshirt freshmen, true juniors are better than they would as redshirt sophomores, and true seniors are better than they would be as redshirt juniors.
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Citations needed.
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Shaq Thompson, Danny Shelton, Hau'oli Kikaha, and I shared a good laugh together after reading your post.
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Belly laughs or just good laughs?
 
If Browning and whomever are tied, redshirt him. If he's clearly better, play him. If not, we're probably talking three starters (technically four) in three years. That's a lot of turnover.
 
If the claim is that redshirting somehow impedes a player's development, then success after delayed redshirts disproves it just as readily as success after first-year redshirts does.

When it comes to QBs, there are tons of examples of RS-FR QBs that had prolific success. Including two of the past three Heisman winners. Where are the splashy true frosh QBs?

If redshirting is so harmful, why does any program ever do it?
 
If the claim is that redshirting somehow impedes a player's development, then success after delayed redshirts disproves it just as readily as success after first-year redshirts does.

When it comes to QBs, there are tons of examples of RS-FR QBs that had prolific success. Including two of the past three Heisman winners. Where are the splashy true frosh QBs?

If redshirting is so harmful, why does any program ever do it?
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I think those guys would have even better as true sophomores.

You're not good at this, at all.
 
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